Will we ever return to the SPL?

[JCDBigBear 10,824]

We have no need to rush back to the SPL. Assuming we did get back after 3 seasons we need to win that title for entry into the Champions League in the 4th season because by then Scottish football will only have one team entry. If we win a cup in the third season we get Europa entry. Either way, we are not guaranteed big bucks.

At this time we have a very disgruntled SFL with probably 29 clubs anti SPL and anti SFA due to the lies and threats. We mustn't lose this opportunity to make friends with the SFL clubs to wield a united front for change to both the SFA and SPL.

We don't need the SPL to survive and thrive. If Charles Green and co. are as sharp as I think they are then we won't just let things continue with the current set-up. The SPL need us for TV deals. We don't need to accept any invitation to join the SPL and I would decline if it was up to me. After 3 seasons, the SFL will have seen what a difference RFC inclusion has made financially to their clubs. In fact, it will be noted after this season alone.

[ZZed 4,510]

The SPL will still be there in name only. It will be reconstructed and I think Rhegan and Doncaster will move on to "New Challenges" within 2 years. We will be in the league but how we will operate in the corporate structure will be interesting.

[Thermopylae 15,286]

If they pick our pocket of titles I don't think I could stomach being back in the SPL

[Non_Sucumbi 876]

How about a breakaway league? maybe call it the Scottish Peoples Football league.

Or the We Are The People's Football League??

If Green actually said the following "Green is saying that we will not return to the SPL." Then I think booler is bang on the money. He is letting people know that the SPL is a 'seriously endangered species' and could face total extinction.

[El Carpintero 546]

If we want to play in Europe again and continue the clubs progression then we will have to.

[Devlin 222]

I don't want to go back to the SPL but i've countlessly said going to England or whatever is not right.

I genuinley don't know what the best future would be for us.

[bluechip 359]

Daily Record = Shettleston Harrier Daily.

I don't buy that non objective rag any longer. I get all my info from this forum and saving myself £260 per annum.

p.s. No offence to any Shettleston Bears.

[King Jela 20,361]

Traynor is a fat wank that no one should pay attention to.

[markybear 136]

I sincerely hope we decline any SPL or SPL2 invite

I'm not interested in joining that corrupt organisation again, the SFL has shown itself to be fair, honest and also it's above bowing to bullying and threats made by larger organisations

I can stomach the "no Europe" issue, it's a price I'm willing to pay.

Ye can shove yer spl up yer arse thanks very much

[Big Al 55 9,248]

The only way we won't return to the SPL is; if there isn't one. If the SPL is the route into Europe we will join it guaranteed.

[CanadianBacon 2,088]

Traynor is a fat wank that no one should pay attention to.

I've just happened on to this thread, browsed through it and stopped at this post.

It pretty much sums it up for me.

Traynor is what he is - a fat

[jdocherty72 215]

I dream of the day the SFL becomes the premier league in Scotland.

Fuck the lot of the bead rattling cunts in the SPL.

[jaywalker 377]

Must be a slow news day.

If anyone can really believe Mr Green will say "Stick your European money up your arse" I will eat my own arm.

[nachothelegend 1,932]

The SPL in its present form will not survive ,and I would suggest a name change to something such as The Scottish Proffesional Football League.

The Brand name is finnished commercially and is beyond help.

[Blink1872 19]

The SPL needs Rangers they cant last 3 years without us and I think Charlie is using this to his advantage, the same way they used all the threats to grant us our membership to SFL.

[54andcounting 627]

Our club asked us about going to the 3rd div and we said yes to it, I would expect them to ask us about the SPL (if the time comes!) if major changes have not taken place then, I would hope that it would be a big no.

[GMac 1,405]

Charles Green has seen the TV viewing figures. TV deals depend on Rangers in the top league ASAP. This is Greens way of booking a seat at any future negotiation.

[ianb1547 3,767]

Bottom line is simple. We need to be in the Champions League.

CL Group stages: £16M....minimum

Europa League WINNERS £4M

[Velo 16]

Bottom line is. This year was an unknown to all concerned - spl, SFL, sky, Espn, bbc, the public, etc, etc - this year so far has shown that rangers are the biggest draw in Scottish football, no matter what division we're in. If things continue as they are and tv rights come up for renegotiation for the spl/SFL in the next two years, the SFL are in a very strong position to demand a deal similar to the spl due to the higher viewing figures they could guarantee.

If that happens, and the euro coefficient continues to fall, where's the benefit of going back to the spl?

[McInnes87 18]

I heard something similar when we were granted entry to the SFL.

It was along the lines of the SFL and SPL being two completely separate organisations and league bodies, which would mean we'd be under no need to switch to the SPL after winning SFL 1 as much as this is current protocol.. The places in Europe are at the hands of the SFA, not the SPL or SFL and it would be possible to grant Rangers a place in Europe.... Not that this seems very likely

[chris81 61]

Dont read what traynor writes , Hes a class A CUNT

Yes. Yes he is. He also works for a cunt of a rag and a cunt of a radio station. Do not believe a word he say's. total cunt. cunt.

[baxfanalex 113]

It's gone from " we don't need Rangers " to 'where are Rangers needed most?' If we're needed in the SFL for the 3 seasons we are planning for and a suitable negotiation over our rights can be negotiated, then let's get on with the journey. If the TV and media rights continue to be hijacked by the corrupt SPL/SFA cabal, to the detriment of the SFL then the game will be turned upside down. The SFL has been treated abysmally for 15 years and we've played our part in it to our shame. We're now in among it and should be in constant dialogue with our fellow SFL clubs to end the fuckfest that has become the SPL. Without the SPL tail there will be no SFA dog. Ruff it is!!!

[simplythebest 11,453]

We'll not turn down a chance to return to Europe.

[terry739 267]

Maybe another way to look at this could be?......

(1) Relations between the current SFA and SPHell and Rangers are for all meaningful purposes fractured beyond repair and it is only the barest of SFA membership threads that keeps Rangers even in dialogue with the SFA (and no care whatsoever for the SPL mafia)

(2) Only way Rangers would openly work with the SFA and SPL is if those that lead them depart. And for the SFA that it is reformed under independent supervision, and that a reformed SPL would be created with terms acceptable to Rangers. If this did not happen, then seems to me that re-entry to an unreformed SPL would be just about as hostile an arrangement as could be imagined. Not just between the players on the pitch, or the fans in the stands, but also between the club officials. There is no chance that the treatment meted out to Rangers by SPL clubs and the SFA would be set aside by Rangers simply on working our way back to an unreformed SPL.

....so the underlying Green message might be that unless there is reform that works for Rangers then a last resort return to an SPL as currently constituted would - and here I use restrained and diplomatic language - be likely to produce long-standing unresolved issues between Rangers and these clubs.

I have thought for some time now that the way forward (re-construction is the in word) will be NO SPL but a 3 league set up....Div 1...Div 2....Div 3....SFL!!! With promotion/relegation across 1,2,3 and possible election to Div 3?

So we won't be going into the SPL....30 out votes 12 any day!!!

[CanadianBacon 2,088]

We'll not turn down a chance to return to Europe.

WE're fucked out of Europe for three full seasons anyway. This isn't an SFA edict, it's a UEFA one and has to do with all clubs in Euro' competitions having at least three years audited accounts. Clearly we don't fit that bill.

So......why bother returning just for the sake of it when it would benefit everyone except Rangers.

No - fuck the SPL - let it die on its arse and when the dust settles we'll be in a stronger position along with the other SFL clubs to negotiate what emerges after the SPL.

Oh....and as a footnote - the fat sloth that is Bullneck Trayknob writes a pile of steaming unadulterated shite....so why would anyone take this fat wank seriously?

I wonder if he's still shagging the golf pro's missus down the Dunure Coast?