Scots law expert says titles can be removed

[delparlane 5,659]

Think it's been posted before but stripping titles is celtic's agenda.

SPL agenda is to rack up as much and as many fines as possible against Rangers to help keep it afloat.

Stripping titles may not be legally possible so expect the SPL to try and extort as much as possible.

Aye. In the name of sporting integrity, but of course.

[Fools Gold 488]

I think it's fucking appalling that the biggest-selling 'newspaper' can print absolute shite like this on the basis of an anonymous source.

Awful, just awful.

[True Azure 1,414]

All papers do this when it's a reporter writing a puff piece. "A family friend said..." "a source close to Prince Harry claimed..." " a bank insider told us...". It's bollocks to sell papers.

[linfield1690 4,249]

Paul McBride!

Lol messages from beyond the grave

[Jelavic191 4,422]

So we're not going back to the SPL. Hows this going work with team getting promoted? If Rangers keep on winning the 1st division but reject going back to the SPL it will hold back all the other diddy club in that league. Can see another argument coming up over this one aswell.

Reckon Green may try and made friends in the SFL and try to get another league system set up. It's been shown Rangers are the big tv audience drawer so far. Also it probably won't take the SPL long to become insolvent.

[RFC Eagle 4,888]

Its this one. Hes got form for anti Rangers spoutings. He also has a blog on the subject. His link to Marion Jones is ridiculous, she perjured herself in front of a Grand Jury. A number of Senators are also questioning USADAs unconstitutional treatment of Lance Armstrong and looking rein them in.

http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/directory/dr-gregory-ioannidis/

[GeneralCartmanLee 313]

Why would you need to remain anonymous unless the source was clearly tainted...ridiculous story in a ridiculous newspaper..

[reddrock 107]

http://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/rangers-could-lose-titles-expert-1320450

I am sorry but I do not trust anonymous sources.

English Based !

[corkinator 611]

Hahahaha the record, I remember that used to be a paper too.

[scarkev 3,540]

In general sport, if someone is found guilty of a doping offence retrospectively, they lose their titles. For example, Lance Armstrong in cycling, or Marion Jones in athletics.

“Jones never failed a drugs test in her life, yet it was found seven years later she had been found guilty of taking drugs and she was stripped of her medals.

“This is fair. In principle, why should a proven ‘cheat’ retain medals or titles?

This is the bit that annoys me...despite the fact the anonymous source is probably harper or Mcleod, the more they repeat this shite the more it becomes fact.

By taking performance enhancing drugs you are a cheat because you have a physical advantage over the opposition. At worst Rangers are guilty of paying players via 2 contracts..How the two can be compared is beyond me. The use of EBT's were perfectly legal and again at worst we are guilty of an administrative error. Did this make our players jump higher or run faster?

This whole witch hunt is to me just another example of the obsessed and pathetic dregs of society complaining about big bad Rangers and everyone else pandering to them. Take that yellow teeth bigot out the equation and I guarantee the majority of Celtic players from that era would be embarrassed to be awarded a retrospective medal. I also love how the punishment has been pre-decided before any hearing.

I try to take the blue specs off and see things from a neutral perspective but I feel like I am going insane with all this and I genuinely feel we are being attacked from all angles from the press to the governing bodies and rival fans. I hope Green is taking the right approach, his statement was very good and maybe dismissing these morons is the best way to go, will need to start giving that a try myself before I explode.

[Ger_onimo 20,488]

Fact is, if you really want to, you can find a lawyer that will say pretty much anything you want them to. It's what they do, and they NEVER do it anonymously. Self-publicity is their game (see Paul McBride).

Amusingly, in this case, the rebel either couldn't be bothered or couldn't afford their time. So they just made one up. It's a really tragic attempt at journalism.

[Bad Robot 21,148]

the person is that confident that he/she can't even put there name to the quote, doesn't sound so professional to me.

[scottyc06 6,915]

An anonymous bird says iv got a 12" whalloper!!

Doesn't mean it's true!

[Guardian 4,281]

I don't doubt for a second that they can strip titles.

However I can't see any reason other than sheer suicidal bloodlust, that would make them do that. The SPL is in tatters, teetering on the brink of oblivion. The last thing they want is another costly battle.

I reckon if they find us guilty, they will impose a fine or somesuch but stop short of stripping titles.

Going nuclear will only result in the destruction of what is left, and possibly prevent Rangers returning to the SPL in the foreseeable future.

We must remember the SPL isn't an arbitrary body, it is the other clubs. These clubs are all hurting financially from the previous attacks on Rangers and I can't see them being up for anything that prolongs that pain indefinitely, and possibly forces them into administration.

Unlike the SPL entry vote, Rangers have demonstrated a firm resolve over this, so they are in no doubt the sky will fall on them if they attempt to touch the titles. They were led down the garden path with false assurances and promises last time, but this time round I think they will be a lot harder to convince provoking us is a good idea.

There is nothing in this for the SPL, or any of its clubs, bar the bad people. They are the only ones who would profit from it.

I do find it hard to believe that even Lawwell can persuade them to go down this suicidal route. Even he might not think it is worth it as it will open up all sorts of issues that his own shoddy club would rather keep out of the spotlight.

[Big Al 55 9,248]

Also posted on other thread;

Listen I want to believe this as much as the next person but I just don't get it. Firstly before the accusations start at the very most if we are guilty of anything it is a clerical error since any payments were declared clearly in our accounts, submitted to the SPL every year.

Say you worked for an employer and during that tenure you won awards for the work you did, you leave that employer and they find out actually someone else did the work you won the award for. The company are of course unable to pull you in and question you about that act. But it doesn't stop them removing that award from you.

It is their award, if they decide that the history books should show that this person won the award under false pretenses then IMO that has nothing to do with whether or not the person who received the award still works for that company.

I just don't understand this point; that because we are no longer under the auspices of the SPL that they are unable to strip titles, they are unable to force Rangers to attend hearings or make them testify but IMO ultimately it is their competition.

[RFC Eagle 4,888]

It will be Gregory Ioaniddis he has previous for anti Rangers statements. He is, allegedly, a sports law 'expert' and has a blog (that I wont link to, don't want to give him hits) about EBTs and Rangers. Based at the University of Buckingham where he idoctrinateslectures law students. It could be the Rhecord has just lifted sections from his blog. Yet again they go to a Rangers unfriendly source to get their 'opinion'.

[gogzy 31,195]

I am starting to think that they have no intention of stripping titles.

All this talk is to soften the blow of the massive fine they will hit us with. We all know they are skint.....and Rangers are a cash cow.

[wearethemighty 186]

So all payments WERE DECLARED, but because of the SPL want an excuse to impose more punishments on our club they've set up this kangaroo court so that we will be found guilty.

So Rangers have done wrong (even though they declared everything) and even though the spl/sfa had approved the accounts at the time (ie their fk up), we should be punished?

If you tell a lie enough times people will eventually believe it.

[Getstiffed 8,863]

I am an expert in the missus' underwear.

And I can confirm, that in fact, they can and will be removed this evening.

[Big Al 55 9,248]

So all payments WERE DECLARED, but because of the SPL want an excuse to impose more punishments on our club they've set up this kangaroo court so that we will be found guilty.

So Rangers have done wrong (even though they declared everything) and even though the spl/sfa had approved the accounts at the time (ie their fk up), we should be punished?

If you tell a lie enough times people will eventually believe it.

Yes they were declared in the annual accounts, I believe the issue is that the payments were not declared in the players contract, hence the accusation of duel contracts, as far as I know that it why the SPL have taken issue with us. As I have said if this is found to be true, IMO it is a clerical mistake nothing more.

[gogzy 31,195]

I am an expert in the missus' underwear.

And I can confirm, that in fact, they can and will be removed this evening.

By who, is the question

[Getstiffed 8,863]

By who, is the question

This is currently under investigation, although it may be delayed due to unscheduled visits to sporting goods stores, looking for baseball bats and hockey masks.

[Right_To_Censor 1,951]

[Tabhead 24]

The article is bad enough but the comments below are absolutely ridiculous!

90% form Them. A blatantly Rangers based article and they can't help themselves but leave comments. What's worse is that they probably believe everything they write! If I was a psychiatrist specialising in the derranged I could make a mint working in the East side of Glasgow.