BillyBoy11 63 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 So, having been linked with Nicky Law and Jon Daly last night it seems we are going for the SPL market for the seasons ahead. This I have no problem with as there is no need for European players who are untested in the Scottish lower divisions e.g Cribari, as they will be commanding heavy wages with no guarantee if they can cut it.However this strategy hasn't exactly worked this season has it? Black has been horrible, Sandaza has been horrible, Shiels has been hit and miss and well the less said about Kyle the better. So is Ally right to go with this policy?...For me I am only happy about it if we go for under 25s players so that there is a potential sell on value, just look at Wallace and Templeton. So that we can have them for a few years and playing well and then we can sell them on for a heavy profit. This isn't going to happen with a Daly, Higdon, Stevenson or anybody of that ilk.Being realistic I know some of these forthcoming targets might be out of reach but it would at least show some ambition and show we are trying to go about setting up a new and exciting transfer policy. Id try for any of these:Kenny McLean, Gary Mackay Stevens, Andrew Shinnie, Billy McKay, Callum Paterson, Stuart Armstrong, Michael Ngoo etc...This, along with establishing a bigger better oversees scouting system to pick up players like Wanyama, Izzagairre, Kayal etc is the way forward for us now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Being linked with a player does not mean good football is out the window, it certainly does not define what style we will be playing etc, the ones making yhe assumptions that's that done and dusted, we are gonna be long ball specialist are slightly over playing things a bit.Who else are we after? Yeah no one really knows yet but you are quick to shoot down everything due a report of our interest in a player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rupret 223 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 How can we identify any signings, until we know what league we are in next year.Saying that, I would not mind ex SPL players that have failed down south, there are quite a lot of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear down under 28 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 We should not be signing anybody near 30 like daly,what does he bring that we dont have in jig,little,hemmimgs and even sandaza. If we stay in the bottom who if any should we buy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbit bear 139 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think it all depends on what league we are playing in next season. If the restructuring goes ahead for next season and we get promotion, then we would be in the 2nd group of 12 teams, which means at the end of next season we could be in 8 teams playing for a place in the spl. So l don't think Ally would want to just have to rely on our kids in that scenario. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 277 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 My view is these targets e.g McGowan, Daly, Law all tell me we're gonna skip a divisionLook at the Olive branches being thown like confetti in last 10 days.We had Charlies 'let us all move on' and we've since had Regan, Longmuir and that weasel Thompson singing from same hymn sheet.Too many coincidences imho Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The problem with having a "signing policy" is there are do many external factors we can't control at the moment and it renders this unworkable.In an ideal world I would like to see us sign a squad full of young guys in their early 20's who can grow and develop as the club ascend the leagues....I would look to sign mobile, athletic players to work under the philosophy of a passing, progressive strategy! This would give us the opportunity to develop players or have the potential to sell them on at a profit.You do need some experienced players to complement that philosophy but as I have said before on here the most important thing is getting our coaching and philosophy as a club sorted before we worry about signing more players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 So, having been linked with Nicky Law and Jon Daly last night it seems we are going for the SPL market for the seasons ahead. This I have no problem with as there is no need for European players who are untested in the Scottish lower divisions e.g Cribari, as they will be commanding heavy wages with no guarantee if they can cut it.However this strategy hasn't exactly worked this season has it? Black has been horrible, Sandaza has been horrible, Shiels has been hit and miss and well the less said about Kyle the better. So is Ally right to go with this policy?...For me I am only happy about it if we go for under 25s players so that there is a potential sell on value, just look at Wallace and Templeton. So that we can have them for a few years and playing well and then we can sell them on for a heavy profit. This isn't going to happen with a Daly, Higdon, Stevenson or anybody of that ilk.Being realistic I know some of these forthcoming targets might be out of reach but it would at least show some ambition and show we are trying to go about setting up a new and exciting transfer policy. Id try for any of these:Kenny McLean, Gary Mackay Stevens, Andrew Shinnie, Billy McKay, Callum Paterson, Stuart Armstrong, Michael Ngoo etc...This, along with establishing a bigger better oversees scouting system to pick up players like Wanyama, Izzagairre, Kayal etc is the way forward for us now.Agree with pretty much all of this, posted on another similar thread. Young players, with game time under their belts, potential to be developed further and sold for profit. And scouting for hidden gems elsewhere. For me it's the only way to have success on the park whilst operating within CGs 33% wage bill : turnover ratio Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy11 63 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 All fair and valid points, but no matter what league we are surely we shouldn't be signing any 28+ year olds as a long term strategy? The odd 1 maybe 2 too add to Jig, Alexander and Wallace etc...If we can't set up a decent scouting network and figure out how to play a good standard of free flowing football with younger players now then we never ever will as a club, and that frightens me greatly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 We should only sign teenage prodigy's, end of. Only under 25's so we can sell for profit. FFS the sheer pig headedness of some on here boggles the mind. A successful squad is built on a variety of styles and experience not just talented youths with a sell on value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 All fair and valid points, but no matter what league we are surely we shouldn't be signing any 28+ year olds as a long term strategy? The odd 1 maybe 2 too add to Jig, Alexander and Wallace etc...If we can't set up a decent scouting network and figure out how to play a good standard of free flowing football with younger players now then we never ever will as a club, and that frightens me greatly.what indicates he is part of a long term strategy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 We should only sign teenage prodigy's, end of.Only under 25's so we can sell for profit. .gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />FFS the sheer pig headedness of some on here boggles the mind. A successful squad is built on a variety of styles and experience not just talented youths with a sell on value.Aye, can't think of a team that's won anything with kids. Maybe Alan Hansen would know?Are you saying that we can't build a squad of talented players, who already have experience of playing regular first team football, who are young enough to develop and sell on for a profit to be reinvested?A pigheadedness??? Ffs right enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Aye, can't think of a team that's won anything with kids. Maybe Alan Hansen would know?Are you saying that we can't build a squad of talented players, who already have experience of playing regular first team football, who are young enough to develop and sell on for a profit to be reinvested?A pigheadedness??? Ffs right enoughThen we sell those kids and bring more through, then sell those then bring more through. We will be constantly rebuilding squads and we'll have to accept inconsistent success if that's the way we want to move forward. Some years we'll have a number of quality players, other years we won't. Thats how youth academies work, you don't unearth diamonds every season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,714 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I thought this said 'singing policy'...I'm out! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Rebuilding or continuously developing?If you sell too many at once, then it's rebuilding. I'm not proposing that.I'm suggesting the transfer signing policy brings in the players as I've suggested. They get experience, game time, their ability developed, a winning mentality, experience of playing in front of huge crowds, european experience at some point down the line, potential international recognition. This is achieved by keeping them for 3,4 5 years and then selling them on. One or 2 a season. And they're replaced in the squad by several younger players with potential and so the cycle continues.I think some people refuse to accept us being a development and selling club - but that's exactly what going to have to be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 So does signing Daly mean we won't sign promising youngsters? Interesting.Does,signing Daly define our footballing philosophy of the future? InterestingDoes signing Daly on a free amount to a good deal? InterestingShould good deals be thrown back at ally as a failure on his part just due to sone personal issues with you lot? Interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The squad's average age is 24 years old which is as young as any SPL squad. How low should it go? Falkirk's much talked about youth policy still has an average age of 22 years. Besides, even under the transfer embargo we could have signed under-18s? Did Ally make use of this loophole? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,613 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 So does signing Daly mean we won't sign promising youngsters? Interesting.Does,signing Daly define our footballing philosophy of the future? InterestingDoes signing Daly on a free amount to a good deal? InterestingShould good deals be thrown back at ally as a failure on his part just due to sone personal issues with you lot? InterestingSo many questions. Interesting. The topic is about future signing policy. A few more questions: If our future policy is as it is at present, aligned with those we have been on record from Ibrox as being linked with, does this bode well?. Should we not be hoping that our signing policy is addressed?.And for the record I don't think signing Daly would be a bad move. I would just prefer our policy to be looking at good players with more years of their careers ahead of them rather than behind them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBoy11 63 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 what indicates he is part of a long term strategy?Who do you mean? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef 436 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Who do you mean?Daly would not define how rangers go about signing players in the future like sone plumbs wanna make out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutschone 450 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 i think daly and law would be great signings for the 2nd division ! ..... dont see what the fuss is all about , two good players .... and signing daly would show the jungle jims up for what they really are !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiogh 178 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Then we sell those kids and bring more through, then sell those then bring more through. We will be constantly rebuilding squads and we'll have to accept inconsistent success if that's the way we want to move forward. Some years we'll have a number of quality players, other years we won't. Thats how youth academies work, you don't unearth diamonds every season.There are plenty of clubs in Europe who have this policy and remain competitive and successful. The infrastructure and mentality need to be implemented properly mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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