nvager 498 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 If we get new players I hope we buy young players and no one over 25. Then we can sell them at a profit if we do not keep them.I would have our scouts look through all the young players in Divs 1 through 3. There must be some good cheap talent there. Especially defenders.If they have been successful with their own (probably part time) teams, then we should seriously think of bringing them to Ibrox.In that way we can get bargains and keep our wages in check.The scouts should also look at places like the Caribbean/Mexico/Africa and Eastern Europe for such talent.Their was a team from Romania who were practically unknown who beat us by 4-1 I think a few seasons ago at Ibrox in the CL? Their budget was a fraction of ours too.Just do not know what our scouting system is like - maybe it needs to be improved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I agree we should be scouting the lower leagues in Scotland and England but I don't think we will. We don't even know what league we will be in next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 I agree we should be scouting the lower leagues in Scotland and England but I don't think we will.We don't even know what league we will be in next season.What is there to stop us? It is the logical and most cost effective thing to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Negri's Beard 1,423 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 What is there to stop us? It is the logical and most cost effective thing to do.Pretty sure that Richard Wilsons article in the herald last week pointed out that we have both no scouts in Europe and no scouting budget at all for the uk.Pretty baffling frankly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 If we get new players I hope we buy young players and no one over 25. Then we can sell them at a profit if we do not keep them.I would have our scouts look through all the young players in Divs 1 through 3. There must be some good cheap talent there. Especially defenders.If they have been successful with their own (probably part time) teams, then we should seriously think of bringing them to Ibrox.In that way we can get bargains and keep our wages in check.The scouts should also look at places like the Caribbean/Mexico/Africa and Eastern Europe for such talent.Their was a team from Romania who were practically unknown who beat us by 4-1 I think a few seasons ago at Ibrox in the CL? Their budget was a fraction of ours too.Just do not know what our scouting system is like - maybe it needs to be improved.I agree with you that we need to vastly improve our scouting network both in the uk and worldwide....it seems crazy a club our size has no proper scouting structure in place at the moment....bad example with unirea though mate seeing as how they don't exist anymore partly due to overspending on wages... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 I agree with you that we need to vastly improve our scouting network both in the uk and worldwide....it seems crazy a club our size has no proper scouting structure in place at the moment....bad example with unirea though mate seeing as how they don't exist anymore partly due to overspending on wages...Had no idea about Unirea. At the time the papers were saying that they had a very low budget for players wages - a fraction of ours. Maybe their support was also only a fraction of ours and their CL campaign led them to overspend?Nevertheless surely CG must see that we limit our possibilities tremendously if we have no scouting networks. Even at worst could we not compile videos of lower division games in Scotland and England and review them as a start? Seems to me there are shortcuts we can take in the meantime before we have an established scouting network in place. We could even ask members of accredited supporter clubs to email in names of prospective players. I am sure there would be a great response to that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Lets hope This doesn't derail our Frank Lampard deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchy 1,200 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 There must be something wrong with our scouting techniques if we keep buying 30+ year olds.Who is exactly responsible for this state of affairs?I'd have thought CG would have had some input into how this should operate, no?He is after all, heid bummer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Ideally the majority of players we target should be younger but if a player is right for us then I don't think their age should matter that much. If we build a young team it's going to be important to have some experience in that team too.I think we are crying out for a centre half with enough experience under his belt to lead and organise our defence and you are very unlikely to find somebody with that experience who is under 25.I also think Margaro Gomis would be a fantastic addition to our midfield because he would be a good foil for MacLeod and he is a more energetic player than either Black or Hutton but should the fact he is 27 rule him out?We need to sort the scouting system out though. I agree with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Ideally the majority of players we target should be younger but if a player is right for us then I don't think their age should matter that much. If we build a young team it's going to be important to have some experience in that team too.I think we are crying out for a centre half with enough experience under his belt to lead and organise our defence and you are very unlikely to find somebody with that experience who is under 25.I also think Margaro Gomis would be a fantastic addition to our midfield because he would be a good foil for MacLeod and he is a more energetic player than either Black or Hutton but should the fact he is 27 rule him out?We need to sort the scouting system out though. I agree with that.In general I would stick to the 25 or under premise, but I agree that there may be one or two others a bit older who are very good and we should take. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchy1094 3 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I honestly don't think people understand that players under 25 are the ones that cost a disproportionate amount of money. It's all fair and well saying "there'll be talent in xyz" but do you guys not understand that the vast majority of the "real talent" have already gone somewhere that we won't be willing to pay the money for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Their was a team from Romania who were practically unknown who beat us by 4-1 I think a few seasons ago at Ibrox in the CL? Their budget was a fraction of ours too.As a side note, Unirea Urziceni went out of business not two years after that match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 As a side note, Unirea Urziceni went out of business not two years after that match.Been noted - see post #7 above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getstiffed 8,863 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 We should sign players that are up to the pressure of playing for Rangers and everything that comes along with it.There has to be a balance. People cant panic and get all pissy because we sign 2 or 3 more experienced players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Been noted - see post #7 above..Glanced through the page as well, never even noticed it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujolais 1,371 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Good principle in theory, however in recent years one of our best signings to my mind was one David Weir. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Good principle in theory, however in recent years one of our best signings to my mind was one David Weir.Agreed and the under 25 rule would/shouldf be a rule of thumb, but of course there would be exceptions for a/few talented older players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Curtain 60 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 If we get new players I hope we buy young players and no one over 25. Then we can sell them at a profit if we do not keep them.I would have our scouts look through all the young players in Divs 1 through 3. There must be some good cheap talent there. Especially defenders.If they have been successful with their own (probably part time) teams, then we should seriously think of bringing them to Ibrox.In that way we can get bargains and keep our wages in check.The scouts should also look at places like the Caribbean/Mexico/Africa and Eastern Europe for such talent.Their was a team from Romania who were practically unknown who beat us by 4-1 I think a few seasons ago at Ibrox in the CL? Their budget was a fraction of ours too.Just do not know what our scouting system is like - maybe it needs to be improved.Definitely worth pursuing this concept, I would like a couple of old heads next year (say inexpensive but proven from 1st div) and then attempt to build a young team that we can trim from every year at profit then reinvest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Definitely worth pursuing this concept, I would like a couple of old heads next year (say inexpensive but proven from 1st div) and then attempt to build a young team that we can trim from every year at profit then reinvest.My thoughts entirely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I've said it a few times but I really hope we have somebody out looking at Lyle Taylor & Nicky Clark based on the seasons they have had.Only 22 & 21 years old but have already scored 53 goals between them so far this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faircity 186 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 ...I just want some cunt that can take a corner!... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 A look round the Academies at EPL clubs may be an idea. There are always a number of players released and I'm sure some would jump at the chance to develop their careers at Rangers. I also watched a bit of Crusaders v Linfield and still can't understand why we released Josh Robinson he looked more than competent at centre back. I'm guessing it was financial but I would certainly be having a look at him again.The lists of players being released will start coming out shortly from the English leagues I hope we look closely at them they may provide some decent talent and long term rewards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs1982 22 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Ideally the majority of players we target should be younger but if a player is right for us then I don't think their age should matter that much. If we build a young team it's going to be important to have some experience in that team too.I think we are crying out for a centre half with enough experience under his belt to lead and organise our defence and you are very unlikely to find somebody with that experience who is under 25.I also think Margaro Gomis would be a fantastic addition to our midfield because he would be a good foil for MacLeod and he is a more energetic player than either Black or Hutton but should the fact he is 27 rule him out?We need to sort the scouting system out though. I agree with that.I agree with that. There is no point excluding a potentially good player for us based on age alone. We picked up Davey Weir for nothing at the end of his career. We might not have got a sell-on fee for him but he seemed to make it easy for anyone who played beside him and raised their value, helping us to get £8m for Cuellar, £3m for Boogy and over £2m for Wilson! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It was Maribor I was thinking of, they had revenues about a tenth of what we were on in the SPL when they put us out! I don't know what their youth policy was but they obviously knew how to spend money better.What do people think is a good ratio of older and young players in a team? I wouldn't go above five under 25s myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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