YorkshireBear 222 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Jim Boyce just been on SSN talking about how good it is for Welsh Football that Cardiff are now gonna be in the EPL.In the interview he said that Fifa are staying with the line that a club HAS to play in the country they are located in.Then Sky listed 22 teams that play in a different country than they are located.What a load of shite.He said he cannot see us joining the FA because of that rule. Go get em Charlie boy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Dunderheids the lot of them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Just seen that it just strengthens our case to take this to court discrimination in full effect Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 It's a joke. Cardiff and Swansea have there own Welsh league. We rightly so should be able to apply for the English league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 They cant get anything right Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 people need to face facts - they don't want us there so we won't get there despite all the cries of discrimination etc.they have no wish to further water down the money they receive - the EPL is one of the worlds largest debts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
linfield1690 4,249 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Anyone got the list of the 22 teams? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,502 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Not this again, cardiff and swansea along with other clubs around the world have special dispensation because their own leagues werent developed enough when these clubs were formed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick1271 521 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Not this again, cardiff and swansea along with other clubs around the world have special dispensation because their own leagues werent developed enough when these clubs were formedSurely with our league underdeveloped and deforming we should get dispensation too . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Not this again, cardiff and swansea along with other clubs around the world have special dispensation because their own leagues werent developed enough when these clubs were formedThere are other teams in the world who play in different countries who also have developed leagues (Berwick and Gretna just off the top of my head) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprotson11 147 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 people need to face facts - they don't want us there so we won't get there despite all the cries of discrimination etc.they have no wish to further water down the money they receive - the EPL is one of the worlds largest debts.I would have no issue if we applied and were rejected based on a democratic vote of clubs. What is an issue for me is the nonsense that is spouted about only being able to play in your own country. Exceptions have been made on countless occasions for other clubs and leagues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennyarcade 42 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Anyone got the list of the 22 teams?Monaco playing in French league, Berwick in Scottish about 8 leicenstien teams playin in Swiss league plus the welsh teams playin in England Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Wales isn't a country. Never has been never will be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Time for that rule to either drop and demote Cardiff and Swansea, or take that ruling away altogether and let other teams join in exceptional circumstances, Rangers are a massive institution not just football club, they'd bring a lot of revenue in to the English game and brighten the place up with the fantastic away support we produce. Our game in Scotland is dying, why should such a fantastic instituion suffer because of this? We'd be a credit to any league we went in to, in footballing terms and also business terms Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Not this again, cardiff and swansea along with other clubs around the world have special dispensation because their own leagues werent developed enough when these clubs were formedThe Welsh league wasn't under developed when the 4 current Welsh clubs entered the English Pyramid, It Didn't Exist! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs1982 22 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 A New Zealand team playing in Australia and a few Canadian teams in USA as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right_To_Censor 1,951 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 telling you now, once the epl fan base starts to decline then you'll see us and them being asked to join their setup Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Not this again, cardiff and swansea along with other clubs around the world have special dispensation because their own leagues werent developed enough when these clubs were formedWhat about Berwick Rangers then????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFarmer 260 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 How good would the EPL be if they got rid of the dross like QPR, Wigan, Swansea, Reading and got in Rangers, Celtic, Leeds United and Sheffield Wednesday! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
julescotia 11,407 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Australia being alowed to move to Asia sticks out for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 How good would the EPL be if they got rid of the dross like QPR, Wigan, Swansea, Reading and got in Rangers, Celtic, Leeds United and Sheffield Wednesday!EPL for me needs bigger clubs. The likes of QPR, Stoke etc have shit fans, shit history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raligt 2,541 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_football_clubs_playing_in_the_league_of_another_country United Kingdom and IrelandAs a result of the history of football in the United Kingdom, the United Kingdom has four FIFA member countries instead of one. Clubs that play outside what would be regarded as their 'home country' include: [edit]England / ScotlandEnglish in ScotlandBerwick Rangers play in the Scottish football league system (Scottish Football League Third Division as of 2011–12), due to its proximity to the Scottish border.Scottish in EnglandNone at present.Gretna played in the English football league system until 2002 when they were elected to the Scottish Football League. They folded in 2008. [edit]England / WalesEnglish in WalesThe New Saints (formerly Total Network Solutions), one of only two fully professional clubs in the Welsh Premier League, represents both the Welsh village of Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain and the English town of Oswestry (the two places are 8 miles/13 km apart), since its merger in 2003 with financially troubledOswestry Town, an English club which played in the Welsh football structure. Since the 2007–08 season, they play in Oswestry, while previously playing in Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain. As regular contenders to the Welsh Premier League title and Welsh Cup, The New Saints have represented Wales in European competitions.Trefonen play in the Welsh football league system (Montgomeryshire League).Newcastle from Newcastle, Shropshire play in the Welsh football league system(Mid Wales South League).Bucknell from Bucknell, Shropshire play in the Welsh football league system (Mid Wales South League).Bishop's Castle did play in the Montgomeryshire League, but moved to the Shropshire County League (in the English football league system) in 2010.Welsh in EnglandSwansea City play in the Premier LeagueCardiff City play in the Football League ChampionshipNewport County play in the Conference NationalWrexham play in the Conference NationalColwyn Bay play in the Conference NorthMerthyr Town play in the Southern Football League South & West DivisionAlthough all the above clubs play in the English football league system and are allowed to compete in the FA Cup, Newport County, Wrexham, Colwyn Bay andMerthyr Town are under the jurisdiction of the Football Association of Wales for disciplinary and administration purposes. Swansea City and Cardiff City previously had the same governance until an arrangement was made with the FA for the 2011–12 season onwards.[1]Cardiff City (1921–29, 1952–57 and 1960–62) and Swansea City (1981–83) have played in the old Football League First Division, the top division of English football at that time. Cardiff City are also the only non-English side to have won the FA Cup, winning it in 1927; they again reached the final in 2008, prompting the English FA to change the rules to allow Welsh clubs to represent England in UEFA competitions should they qualify to do so.[2] Swansea City won the 2012–13 Football League Cup, and should become the first Wales-based club to qualify for European competitions through a place reserved for the English Football Association.The following Welsh clubs have also played in the English football league system: This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it. Bangor CityBarry TownBridgend TownCaernarfon TownNewtownRhylTreharris[3]The following defunct Welsh clubs also played in the English league system: This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it. Aberdare AthleticAbertillery Town[3]Lovells AthleticMardy[3]Merthyr TydfilTon Pentre[3]Until 1995, the above clubs were allowed to participate in the Welsh Cup, and represented Wales in the Cup Winners' Cup if they won. Clubs playing in those parts of England close to the Welsh border could also play in the Welsh Cup by invitation, but could not represent Wales if they won.In addition, Deva Stadium, home to Chester and previously to the defunct Chester City, straddles the England-Wales border, and its entire pitch is in Wales (though the club offices, which are part of the stadium complex, are in England). [edit]Republic of Ireland / Northern IrelandNorthern Irish in the Republic of IrelandTwo different clubs bearing the name Derry City have played in the Republic of Ireland football league system:The original club, founded in 1928, played in the Northern Ireland football league system until 1972, when it was expelled from the Irish Football Leaguedue to issues related to The Troubles. The club then spent 13 years without a league until being admitted to the second level of the League of Ireland in 1985. Two years later, they earned promotion to the League of Ireland's first level, and continued there until their expulsion in 2009 for financial mismanagement. The club was dissolved shortly thereafter.A new Derry City club, which considers itself to be a continuation of the original, was founded in January 2010, and was admitted to the second level of the League of Ireland starting with that season. They returned to the top flight at the first opportunity by winning the First Division title.Derry City have won the league titles of both Northern Ireland (1964–65) and theRepublic of Ireland (1988–89, 1996–97), and also the cup titles of both Northern Ireland (1948–49, 1953–54, 1963–64) and the Republic of Ireland (1988–89, 1994–95, 2002, 2006, 2012), and have represented both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland in European club competitions. [edit]Guernsey / England → : Guernsey in EnglandGuernsey F.C. play in the Combined Counties League Premier Division.The Guernsey Football Association has no international recognition; it has county status with the English Football Association. [edit]Continental EuropeAndorran in SpainFC Andorra play in the Spanish football league system (Segona Catalana).Spanish in FranceUE Bossòst play in the French football league system (Liga Haute Garonne Comminges - CategorÃa Excellence). → : German in SwitzerlandFC Büsingen play in the Swiss football league system, as Büsingen is a Germanexclave surrounded by Switzerland. → : Italian in SwitzerlandAP Campionese play in the Swiss football league system, as Campione d'Italia is an Italian exclave surrounded by Switzerland. → : Liechtensteiner in SwitzerlandFC BalzersUSV Eschen/MaurenFC RuggellFC SchaanFC TriesenFC TriesenbergFC Vaduz (played in the Swiss Super League for the 2008–09 season, the first Liechtenstein club to play in the top level of Swiss football; now in the second-levelChallenge League)All clubs in Liechtenstein play in the Swiss football league system, as Liechtenstein has no properly recognized league of its own. These clubs also compete in theLiechtenstein Football Cup, which is effectively the championship of Liechtenstein, with the winner representing Liechtenstein in the UEFA Europa League. Liechtenstein clubs do not play in the Swiss Cup, and are not eligible for qualification to European competitions via the Swiss league system. → : Monegasque in FranceAS Monaco FC play in the French football league system (Ligue 2 as of 2011–12), as Monaco does not have a professional league. They are one of the most successful clubs in France having won seven Ligue 1, five Coupe de France and one Coupe de la Ligue titles, and have also represented France in European competitions, reaching the final of the now-defunct UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in1992 and of the UEFA Champions League in 2004.Additionally, Evian Thonon Gaillard applied in 2010-11 to play across the border in nearby Geneva, Switzerland (sharing with FC Servette), due to its own facilities being inadequate for top division French football; however, despite French Football Federation support, UEFA denied it, and Evian ended up playing in Annecy, sharing with Annecy F.C. → : Sammarinese in ItalySan Marino Calcio play in the Italian football league system (Lega Pro Seconda Divisione).A.C. Juvenes/Dogana played in both the Campionato Sammarinese di Calcio and the Italian amateur levels until the 2006-07 season. Now they play only in the Sammarinese league. Juvenes/Dogana was founded in 2000 after the merger of S.S. Juvenes and G.S. Dogana: both clubs played in Italy at the time of the merger.The home league of San Marino was established only in 1985. Before that year, other Sammarinese teams have competed in the Italian system (i.e. A.C. Libertas and San Marino Calcio forerunners Libertas-Tre Penne), though only San Marino Calcio is allowed to take part to the system and also to Coppa Italia exclusively. → : Swiss in Italy :FC Chiasso played in the Italian league system between 1914 and 1923. → : Cypriot in GreeceOlympiakos Nicosia played in Greece in 1967–68, 1969–70, and 1971–72.AEL Limassol played in Greece in 1968–69.EPA Larnaca FC played in Greece in 1970–71.AC Omonia played in Greece in 1972–73.APOEL F.C. played in Greece in 1973–74.From 1967 to 1974, the champion of the Cypriot First Division was promoted to theGreek First Division. → : Austrian in GermanySV Kleinwalsertal has played in Germany since the 1960s, playing in the tier twelve B-Klasse Allgäu 6 in 2011–12.[4]From 1938 to 1945, Austrian clubs participated in the German Gauliga system because Austria was annexed by Nazi Germany. Additionally, a number of clubs from France, Luxembourg, Czechoslovakia and Poland also played in the German league system during their occupation. → : Finnish in SwedenIF Fram 1999-2011 and possibly earlierIF Östernäskamraterna 2004-2007Eckerö IF 2005-2009Jomala IK 2000-2005 and possibly earlierLemlands IF 2011- still plays in Swedish league systemIF Finströmskamrater 2002-2003IF Start 2004 [edit]North AmericaMany North American sports leagues are made up of teams from different countries—three of the four largest professional leagues in Anglophone North America have teams representing cities on both sides of the U.S.-Canada border. This phenomenon can also be seen in soccer leagues. Although foreign clubs can and do participate inleagues based in the United States, no such team is eligible to participate in the U.S. Open Cup, which is only open to teams affiliated with the United States Soccer Federation. They are also not eligible to represent the United States in theCONCACAF Champions League. Those teams that do participate in U.S. leagues also participate in various competitions under their local federations to gain entry into the Champions League. → : Antiguan in the United StatesAntigua Barracuda FC have played in the third-level USL Pro since that league's creation in 2011. → : Bermudian in the United StatesBermuda Hogges play in the USL Premier Development League, having decided to self-relegate from the USL Second Division (the effective predecessor to USL Pro) after the 2009 season. Many of the players appear for the Bermuda national team. → : Canadian in the United States The top two levels of the Canadian soccer pyramid, Major League Soccer (MLS) and the current North American Soccer League (NASL), are both leagues based in the United States.Toronto FC have played in MLS since 2007.Vancouver Whitecaps FC joined MLS in 2011. A member of the USL First Divisionthrough 2009, the Whitecaps broke away from the USL to join the new NASL for 2010. However, after neither the NASL nor USL-1 received official sanctioning, they played the 2010 season in the temporary USSF Division 2.The Montreal Impact joined MLS in 2012. Their predecessors of the same namehad played the previous three seasons in three different leagues—the USL First Division in 2009, the temporary USSF Division 2 in 2010, and the new NASL in 2011.FC Edmonton started playing in the new NASL in 2011.Several Canadian clubs played in previous incarnations of the NASL, including:Calgary BoomersEdmonton DrillersMontreal ManicMontreal OlympiqueToronto Blizzard (also known as Toronto Metros and Toronto Metros-Croatia)Toronto FalconsVancouver RoyalsVancouver Whitecaps[*]Abbotsford Mariners, Forest City London, Hamilton Rage, Ottawa Fury, Thunder Bay Chill, Toronto Lynx (played in the USL A-League/First Division until 2006),Vancouver Whitecaps Residency, Victoria Highlanders and WSA Winnipeg play in the USL Premier Development League.The top four professional clubs in Canada (Toronto FC, Montreal Impact, Vancouver Whitecaps FC, and FC Edmonton) contest the Canadian Championship for theVoyageurs Cup to determine Canada's entrant into the CONCACAF Champions League. → : Puerto Rican in the United StatesThe Puerto Rico Islanders have played in the new NASL since it began play in 2011. They had played in the USL First Division in 2009 and USSF Division 2 in 2010. Even though Puerto Rico is a dependent territory of the United States, it has a separate football federation, the Puerto Rican Football Federation. The highest level of competition within Puerto Rico is the Puerto Rico Soccer League, which the team do not usually participate in (however, they played in the 2010 seasonwhen it was played in a shortened format). The Islanders have represented Puerto Rico at the CFU Club Championship and the CONCACAF Champions League.Sevilla FC Puerto Rico, Club Atlético River Plate Puerto Rico, and Puerto Rico United were initially going to play in USL Pro in the 2011 season, but were removed due to severe economic difficulties. [edit]Asia [edit]China / Hong Kong → : Mainland Chinese in Hong KongLanwa FC played in the Hong Kong First Division League for three seasons from 2005 to 2008. While Hong Kong is a special administrative region of China, it has its own football federation and professional league.Sheffield United and Xiangxue Eisiti were both reserve teams of clubs based in mainland China which played in the 2008–09 Hong Kong First Division Leagueseason. However, both teams actually played their home games in Hong Kong. [edit]Singapore / Malaysia / Brunei → : Singaporean in MalaysiaThe Football Association of Singapore used to enter a team in the Malaysian league, but pulled out after the 1994 season following a dispute with the Football Association of Malaysia over gate receipts, and launched its own S.League. From 2012, a new Singapore representative side, based around the Under-23 team will participate in both the Malaysia Super League and the Malaysia Cup. → : Malaysian in SingaporeAs part of a two-way arrangement with the Football Association of Singapore, theFootball Association of Malaysia will enter a representative side based around theUnder-23 team in the S-League from 2012. → : Bruneian in MalaysiaDPMM FC played in the Malaysia Premier League in 2006, and the Malaysia Super League in 2007 and 2008.The Football Association of Brunei Darussalam used to enter a team in the Malaysian league. → : Bruneian in SingaporeDPMM FC play in the S.League, starting in 2009, after getting kicked out theMalaysia Super League for the 2009 season (see below). They were also invited to take part in the Singapore Cup in 2007. Since the FIFA ban on the Brunei FA in 2009, DPMM FC have suspended their participation and resumed it only in 2012.Besides DPMM FC, a number of "foreign" teams have also played in the S.League. These clubs, while playing their home games in Singapore, are either satellite teams of foreign clubs or are made up exclusively of foreign players:Albirex Niigata Singapore FC (a satellite team of Albirex Niigata, a top-level professional club in Japan's J. League)Beijing Guoan Talent Singapore FC (a satellite team of Beijing Guoan F.C., a top-level professional club in China's Super League)Dalian Shide Siwu FC (a satellite team of Dalian Haichang, a top-level professional club in China's Super League)Etoile FC (made up of players of French origin)Liaoning Guangyuan FC (a satellite team of Liaoning FC, a top-level professional club in China's Super League)Sinchi FC (a team made up of players from China)Sporting Afrique FC (made up of players of African origin)Yishun Super Reds FC (made up of players from South Korea)As of 2011, only Albirex Niigata Singapore FC and Etoile FC play in the S.League. The foreign teams are not allowed to represent Singapore in AFC club competitions such as the AFC Champions League and the AFC Cup. Moreover, due to the presence of foreign teams in the S.League, the AFC does not allow S.League teams to participate in the AFC Champions League since 2011.[5]In recent years, foreign clubs from other countries have also been invited to participate in the Singapore Cup. [edit]Oceania → : New Zealander in AustraliaWellington Phoenix play in the A-League, starting from the 2007–08 season.New Zealand Knights played in the National Soccer League from 1999 to 2004 (as Football Kingz FC) and in the A-League from 2005 to 2007.As New Zealand is a member of OFC and Australia is a member of AFC since moving from OFC in 2006, Wellington Phoenix are playing in the league of a member of another football confederation. As per agreement with FIFA, AFC and OFC, Wellington Phoenix are not allowed to participate in the AFC Champions League.[6]They also do not participate in the OFC Champions League, as New Zealand is represented by clubs from its football league, the New Zealand Football Championship.Note that it is not uncommon for New Zealand teams to play in Australian professional sports leagues—the National Rugby League (rugby league) and National Basketball League both have one team from New Zealand, and the Women's National Basketball League had a New Zealand team in the 2007–08 season. This phenomenon is most pronounced in rugby union, in which the Super Rugby competition, a joint enterprisebetween the governing bodies of Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, has had five teams from each of the three countries since 2011. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry739 267 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 What about Derry City....Northern Ireland based, play in the Republic... were given 'special' dispensation during the 'troubles' to play down south and yet still get grants from IFA (Northern Ireland). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMe 25,327 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 http://en.wikipedia....another_country    United Kingdom and IrelandAs a result of the history of football in the United Kingdom, the United Kingdom has four FIFA member countries instead of one. Clubs that play outside what would be regarded as their 'home country' include:    [edit]England / ScotlandEnglish in ScotlandBerwick Rangers play in the Scottish football league system (Scottish Football League Third Division as of 2011–12), due to its proximity to the Scottish border.Scottish in EnglandNone at present.Gretna played in the English football league system until 2002 when they were elected to the Scottish Football League. They folded in 2008.    [edit]England / WalesEnglish in WalesThe New Saints (formerly Total Network Solutions), one of only two fully professional clubs in the Welsh Premier League, represents both the Welsh village of Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain and the English town of Oswestry (the two places are 8 miles/13 km apart), since its merger in 2003 with financially troubledOswestry Town, an English club which played in the Welsh football structure. Since the 2007–08 season, they play in Oswestry, while previously playing in Llansantffraid-ym-Mechain. As regular contenders to the Welsh Premier League title and Welsh Cup, The New Saints have represented Wales in European competitions.Trefonen play in the Welsh football league system (Montgomeryshire League).Newcastle from Newcastle, Shropshire play in the Welsh football league system(Mid Wales South League).Bucknell from Bucknell, Shropshire play in the Welsh football league system (Mid Wales South League).Bishop's Castle did play in the Montgomeryshire League, but moved to the Shropshire County League (in the English football league system) in 2010.Welsh in EnglandSwansea City play in the Premier LeagueCardiff City play in the Football League ChampionshipNewport County play in the Conference NationalWrexham play in the Conference NationalColwyn Bay play in the Conference NorthMerthyr Town play in the Southern Football League South & West DivisionAlthough all the above clubs play in the English football league system and are allowed to compete in the FA Cup, Newport County, Wrexham, Colwyn Bay andMerthyr Town are under the jurisdiction of the Football Association of Wales for disciplinary and administration purposes. Swansea City and Cardiff City previously had the same governance until an arrangement was made with the FA for the 2011–12 season onwards.[1]Cardiff City (1921–29, 1952–57 and 1960–62) and Swansea City (1981–83) have played in the old Football League First Division, the top division of English football at that time. Cardiff City are also the only non-English side to have won the FA Cup, winning it in 1927; they again reached the final in 2008, prompting the English FA to change the rules to allow Welsh clubs to represent England in UEFA competitions should they qualify to do so.[2] Swansea City won the 2012–13 Football League Cup, and should become the first Wales-based club to qualify for European competitions through a place reserved for the English Football Association.The following Welsh clubs have also played in the English football league system:            This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.    Bangor CityBarry TownBridgend TownCaernarfon TownNewtownRhylTreharris[3]The following defunct Welsh clubs also played in the English league system:            This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.    Aberdare AthleticAbertillery Town[3]Lovells AthleticMardy[3]Merthyr TydfilTon Pentre[3]Until 1995, the above clubs were allowed to participate in the Welsh Cup, and represented Wales in the Cup Winners' Cup if they won. Clubs playing in those parts of England close to the Welsh border could also play in the Welsh Cup by invitation, but could not represent Wales if they won.In addition, Deva Stadium, home to Chester and previously to the defunct Chester City, straddles the England-Wales border, and its entire pitch is in Wales (though the club offices, which are part of the stadium complex, are in England).    [edit]Republic of Ireland / Northern IrelandNorthern Irish in the Republic of IrelandTwo different clubs bearing the name Derry City have played in the Republic of Ireland football league system:The original club, founded in 1928, played in the Northern Ireland football league system until 1972, when it was expelled from the Irish Football Leaguedue to issues related to The Troubles. The club then spent 13 years without a league until being admitted to the second level of the League of Ireland in 1985. Two years later, they earned promotion to the League of Ireland's first level, and continued there until their expulsion in 2009 for financial mismanagement. The club was dissolved shortly thereafter.A new Derry City club, which considers itself to be a continuation of the original, was founded in January 2010, and was admitted to the second level of the League of Ireland starting with that season. They returned to the top flight at the first opportunity by winning the First Division title.Derry City have won the league titles of both Northern Ireland (1964–65) and theRepublic of Ireland (1988–89, 1996–97), and also the cup titles of both Northern Ireland (1948–49, 1953–54, 1963–64) and the Republic of Ireland (1988–89, 1994–95, 2002, 2006, 2012), and have represented both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland in European club competitions.    [edit]Guernsey / England → : Guernsey in EnglandGuernsey F.C. play in the Combined Counties League Premier Division.The Guernsey Football Association has no international recognition; it has county status with the English Football Association.    [edit]Continental EuropeAndorran in SpainFC Andorra play in the Spanish football league system (Segona Catalana).Spanish in FranceUE Bossòst play in the French football league system (Liga Haute Garonne Comminges - CategorÃa Excellence). → : German in SwitzerlandFC Büsingen play in the Swiss football league system, as Büsingen is a Germanexclave surrounded by Switzerland. → : Italian in SwitzerlandAP Campionese play in the Swiss football league system, as Campione d'Italia is an Italian exclave surrounded by Switzerland. → : Liechtensteiner in SwitzerlandFC BalzersUSV Eschen/MaurenFC RuggellFC SchaanFC TriesenFC TriesenbergFC Vaduz (played in the Swiss Super League for the 2008–09 season, the first Liechtenstein club to play in the top level of Swiss football; now in the second-levelChallenge League)All clubs in Liechtenstein play in the Swiss football league system, as Liechtenstein has no properly recognized league of its own. These clubs also compete in theLiechtenstein Football Cup, which is effectively the championship of Liechtenstein, with the winner representing Liechtenstein in the UEFA Europa League. Liechtenstein clubs do not play in the Swiss Cup, and are not eligible for qualification to European competitions via the Swiss league system. → : Monegasque in FranceAS Monaco FC play in the French football league system (Ligue 2 as of 2011–12), as Monaco does not have a professional league. They are one of the most successful clubs in France having won seven Ligue 1, five Coupe de France and one Coupe de la Ligue titles, and have also represented France in European competitions, reaching the final of the now-defunct UEFA Cup Winners' Cup in1992 and of the UEFA Champions League in 2004.Additionally, Evian Thonon Gaillard applied in 2010-11 to play across the border in nearby Geneva, Switzerland (sharing with FC Servette), due to its own facilities being inadequate for top division French football; however, despite French Football Federation support, UEFA denied it, and Evian ended up playing in Annecy, sharing with Annecy F.C. → : Sammarinese in ItalySan Marino Calcio play in the Italian football league system (Lega Pro Seconda Divisione).A.C. Juvenes/Dogana played in both the Campionato Sammarinese di Calcio and the Italian amateur levels until the 2006-07 season. Now they play only in the Sammarinese league. Juvenes/Dogana was founded in 2000 after the merger of S.S. Juvenes and G.S. Dogana: both clubs played in Italy at the time of the merger.The home league of San Marino was established only in 1985. Before that year, other Sammarinese teams have competed in the Italian system (i.e. A.C. Libertas and San Marino Calcio forerunners Libertas-Tre Penne), though only San Marino Calcio is allowed to take part to the system and also to Coppa Italia exclusively. → : Swiss in Italy :FC Chiasso played in the Italian league system between 1914 and 1923. → : Cypriot in GreeceOlympiakos Nicosia played in Greece in 1967–68, 1969–70, and 1971–72.AEL Limassol played in Greece in 1968–69.EPA Larnaca FC played in Greece in 1970–71.AC Omonia played in Greece in 1972–73.APOEL F.C. played in Greece in 1973–74.From 1967 to 1974, the champion of the Cypriot First Division was promoted to theGreek First Division. → : Austrian in GermanySV Kleinwalsertal has played in Germany since the 1960s, playing in the tier twelve B-Klasse Allgäu 6 in 2011–12.[4]From 1938 to 1945, Austrian clubs participated in the German Gauliga system because Austria was annexed by Nazi Germany. Additionally, a number of clubs from France, Luxembourg, Czechoslovakia and Poland also played in the German league system during their occupation. → : Finnish in SwedenIF Fram 1999-2011 and possibly earlierIF Östernäskamraterna 2004-2007Eckerö IF 2005-2009Jomala IK 2000-2005 and possibly earlierLemlands IF 2011- still plays in Swedish league systemIF Finströmskamrater 2002-2003IF Start 2004    [edit]North AmericaMany North American sports leagues are made up of teams from different countries—three of the four largest professional leagues in Anglophone North America have teams representing cities on both sides of the U.S.-Canada border. This phenomenon can also be seen in soccer leagues. Although foreign clubs can and do participate inleagues based in the United States, no such team is eligible to participate in the U.S. Open Cup, which is only open to teams affiliated with the United States Soccer Federation. They are also not eligible to represent the United States in theCONCACAF Champions League. Those teams that do participate in U.S. leagues also participate in various competitions under their local federations to gain entry into the Champions League. → : Antiguan in the United StatesAntigua Barracuda FC have played in the third-level USL Pro since that league's creation in 2011. → : Bermudian in the United StatesBermuda Hogges play in the USL Premier Development League, having decided to self-relegate from the USL Second Division (the effective predecessor to USL Pro) after the 2009 season. Many of the players appear for the Bermuda national team. → : Canadian in the United States The top two levels of the Canadian soccer pyramid, Major League Soccer (MLS) and the current North American Soccer League (NASL), are both leagues based in the United States.Toronto FC have played in MLS since 2007.Vancouver Whitecaps FC joined MLS in 2011. A member of the USL First Divisionthrough 2009, the Whitecaps broke away from the USL to join the new NASL for 2010. However, after neither the NASL nor USL-1 received official sanctioning, they played the 2010 season in the temporary USSF Division 2.The Montreal Impact joined MLS in 2012. Their predecessors of the same namehad played the previous three seasons in three different leagues—the USL First Division in 2009, the temporary USSF Division 2 in 2010, and the new NASL in 2011.FC Edmonton started playing in the new NASL in 2011.Several Canadian clubs played in previous incarnations of the NASL, including:Calgary BoomersEdmonton DrillersMontreal ManicMontreal OlympiqueToronto Blizzard (also known as Toronto Metros and Toronto Metros-Croatia)Toronto FalconsVancouver RoyalsVancouver Whitecaps[*]Abbotsford Mariners, Forest City London, Hamilton Rage, Ottawa Fury, Thunder Bay Chill, Toronto Lynx (played in the USL A-League/First Division until 2006),Vancouver Whitecaps Residency, Victoria Highlanders and WSA Winnipeg play in the USL Premier Development League.The top four professional clubs in Canada (Toronto FC, Montreal Impact, Vancouver Whitecaps FC, and FC Edmonton) contest the Canadian Championship for theVoyageurs Cup to determine Canada's entrant into the CONCACAF Champions League. → : Puerto Rican in the United StatesThe Puerto Rico Islanders have played in the new NASL since it began play in 2011. They had played in the USL First Division in 2009 and USSF Division 2 in 2010. Even though Puerto Rico is a dependent territory of the United States, it has a separate football federation, the Puerto Rican Football Federation. The highest level of competition within Puerto Rico is the Puerto Rico Soccer League, which the team do not usually participate in (however, they played in the 2010 seasonwhen it was played in a shortened format). The Islanders have represented Puerto Rico at the CFU Club Championship and the CONCACAF Champions League.Sevilla FC Puerto Rico, Club Atlético River Plate Puerto Rico, and Puerto Rico United were initially going to play in USL Pro in the 2011 season, but were removed due to severe economic difficulties.    [edit]Asia    [edit]China / Hong Kong → : Mainland Chinese in Hong KongLanwa FC played in the Hong Kong First Division League for three seasons from 2005 to 2008. While Hong Kong is a special administrative region of China, it has its own football federation and professional league.Sheffield United and Xiangxue Eisiti were both reserve teams of clubs based in mainland China which played in the 2008–09 Hong Kong First Division Leagueseason. However, both teams actually played their home games in Hong Kong.    [edit]Singapore / Malaysia / Brunei → : Singaporean in MalaysiaThe Football Association of Singapore used to enter a team in the Malaysian league, but pulled out after the 1994 season following a dispute with the Football Association of Malaysia over gate receipts, and launched its own S.League. From 2012, a new Singapore representative side, based around the Under-23 team will participate in both the Malaysia Super League and the Malaysia Cup. → : Malaysian in SingaporeAs part of a two-way arrangement with the Football Association of Singapore, theFootball Association of Malaysia will enter a representative side based around theUnder-23 team in the S-League from 2012. → : Bruneian in MalaysiaDPMM FC played in the Malaysia Premier League in 2006, and the Malaysia Super League in 2007 and 2008.The Football Association of Brunei Darussalam used to enter a team in the Malaysian league. → : Bruneian in SingaporeDPMM FC play in the S.League, starting in 2009, after getting kicked out theMalaysia Super League for the 2009 season (see below). They were also invited to take part in the Singapore Cup in 2007. Since the FIFA ban on the Brunei FA in 2009, DPMM FC have suspended their participation and resumed it only in 2012.Besides DPMM FC, a number of "foreign" teams have also played in the S.League. These clubs, while playing their home games in Singapore, are either satellite teams of foreign clubs or are made up exclusively of foreign players:Albirex Niigata Singapore FC (a satellite team of Albirex Niigata, a top-level professional club in Japan's J. League)Beijing Guoan Talent Singapore FC (a satellite team of Beijing Guoan F.C., a top-level professional club in China's Super League)Dalian Shide Siwu FC (a satellite team of Dalian Haichang, a top-level professional club in China's Super League)Etoile FC (made up of players of French origin)Liaoning Guangyuan FC (a satellite team of Liaoning FC, a top-level professional club in China's Super League)Sinchi FC (a team made up of players from China)Sporting Afrique FC (made up of players of African origin)Yishun Super Reds FC (made up of players from South Korea)As of 2011, only Albirex Niigata Singapore FC and Etoile FC play in the S.League. The foreign teams are not allowed to represent Singapore in AFC club competitions such as the AFC Champions League and the AFC Cup. Moreover, due to the presence of foreign teams in the S.League, the AFC does not allow S.League teams to participate in the AFC Champions League since 2011.[5]In recent years, foreign clubs from other countries have also been invited to participate in the Singapore Cup.    [edit]Oceania → : New Zealander in AustraliaWellington Phoenix play in the A-League, starting from the 2007–08 season.New Zealand Knights played in the National Soccer League from 1999 to 2004 (as Football Kingz FC) and in the A-League from 2005 to 2007.As New Zealand is a member of OFC and Australia is a member of AFC since moving from OFC in 2006, Wellington Phoenix are playing in the league of a member of another football confederation. As per agreement with FIFA, AFC and OFC, Wellington Phoenix are not allowed to participate in the AFC Champions League.[6]They also do not participate in the OFC Champions League, as New Zealand is represented by clubs from its football league, the New Zealand Football Championship.Note that it is not uncommon for New Zealand teams to play in Australian professional sports leagues—the National Rugby League (rugby league) and National Basketball League both have one team from New Zealand, and the Women's National Basketball League had a New Zealand team in the 2007–08 season. This phenomenon is most pronounced in rugby union, in which the Super Rugby competition, a joint enterprisebetween the governing bodies of Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, has had five teams from each of the three countries since 2011.yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Wull 203 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 How good would the EPL be if they got rid of the dross like QPR, Wigan, Swansea, Reading and got in Rangers, Celtic, Leeds United and Sheffield Wednesday!Celtic? No thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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