Guest Andypendek Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Both are in the right, kinda - Miller would be a decent acquisition, but only at the right cost in wages (ie next to nothing).Quite a depressing start to the day because this looks a lot like Ally or someone on the coaching staff leaking to the papers and briefing against Green. That's how it's going to be, is it? I was saying to someone a while back I thought it'd take us about a decade to get back to challenging for top league titles (I was pished) but if it's going to be infighting and flinging money away, you can add another two or three years onto that.Starting to look like a huge missed opportunity for Rangers. What a shame that is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Both are in the right, kinda - Miller would be a decent acquisition, but only at the right cost in wages (ie next to nothing).Quite a depressing start to the day because this looks a lot like Ally or someone on the coaching staff leaking to the papers and briefing against Green. That's how it's going to be, is it? I was saying to someone a while back I thought it'd take us about a decade to get back to challenging for top league titles (I was pished) but if it's going to be infighting and flinging money away, you can add another two or three years onto that.Starting to look like a huge missed opportunity for Rangers. What a shame that is.Perhaps a close friend of the manager is doing this as in someone who has a track record in selling to papers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmiston Drive 3,846 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 IF this is true, then green is only sticking to the plan he outlined to the fans, that is, looking towards youth and keeping wages at a reasonable level. We do not need daly or miller to compete in sfl2, particularly of they earn 4grand a week. We should look to further develop little, Naismith, hemmings or look for younger talent that can provide a service then be sold on at a profit. Yes, experience is important but we already have plenty of experience and if we bring in guys at 23 or 24, then surely they would have 2,3 or 4 years experience at that ageSpot on Oz.................Ally has known from day 1 that CG has said they will look to augment homegrown talent with a number of guys in their early/mid 20s that have experience and can further this with the club and have a very good sell on value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 A team who needs to make money on players signed, should never sign anyone over the age of 25.Jon Daly, Kenny Miller, Andre Bikey, are all ridiculous signing targets.To be fair Bikey would be a great signing in a position we badly need strengthened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 That articles been written in a manner that would suggest we'll all be fighting Allys corner because Oor Charlie wont break the bank for Kenny Miller. Good. If take him back, but Kenny Miller left us because it was his last big payday, and he wanted the security. Well hes had his paydays, like i said id take him, certainly before Boyd, but not on big bucks.The article could be re-written..."Kenny Millers greed set to scupper return to Ibrox..." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,096 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I dont believe anyone within the club leaked this bullshit story. Its just yet another in a long line of mischief and shit stirring stories.No quotes just bluff and bluster!!Lets try a little patience, and see who we ACTUALLY DO SIGN. WHEN WE CAN SIGN PLAYERS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamie 4,842 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Not Green's biggest fan but I totally agree with him here. However, the scouting is crucial for this strategy and Ally needs support to find the rare diamond that is out there. It also has to be said that coaching is vital too in order that these said players develop into good un's.This is where I have my doubts with Ally. His mentor Walter Smith was hardly known for developing youth so he can't have learned much about that!Walter developed Charlie Miller from a promising youngster to a hapless drunk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnymate1690 624 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The fact that ally wants him annoys me , it would just be taking a step backwards . Glad he won't be coming back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,792 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Another story to try and make Charles Green look a bad, bad man. I would take Kenny back at a sensible wage, but we really should be looking for younger players to take us forward, IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I don't think Miller's experience would aid development. He's not a particularly smart striker, nor does he have excellent technique. There's only so much you can teach a youngster about running around like a headless chicken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianBacon 2,088 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Perhaps a close friend of the manager is doing this as in someone who has a track record in selling to papers.OK - you've got me.I'll settle for the initials of said 'friend'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrongbowLoyal. 36 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Kenny Miller Jon Daly Craig Cathcart And Mccoist wants Green to throw Millions at him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboyrfc 296 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If this is the case then Charles Green is 100% correct. In order to run the club as an efficient business we can't throw money down the drain by providing a retirement package for has been players.We need to sign younger players on lower wages with a potential sell on value, it's very simple Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,540 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The coaching team are concerned that the planned increase in wage budget wont happenHow much do they want to fucking spend to beat part timers, come on to fuck rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewGer 606 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 How is this a problem between Green and Ally? Miller clearly wants stupid money, end of story. Happens to just about every manager every window. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarkev 3,540 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 The coaching team are concerned that the planned increase in wage budget wont happenHow much do they want to fucking spend to beat part timers, come on to fuck rangersThe more comments from ally (albeit this isn't necessarily from him) bleating on about needing 10 new players, more quality and bigger budgets as well as making excuses for our performances and using the situation with green to court sympathy the more I lose respect for him.....We need to realise where we are and where we want to get to....we already have the 2nd biggest budget in the country whilst playing part time football....we need to stop thinking short term and work on our style of play whilst bringing through younger players with potential sell on value.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregor Stevens Fan Club 42 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 If this is the case then Charles Green is 100% correct. In order to run the club as an efficient business we can't throw money down the drain by providing a retirement package for has been players.We need to sign younger players on lower wages with a potential sell on value, it's very simpleYep, can't argue with that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I never really seen the big thing about Miller in the first place,he had bags of pace but outside that he had no proper first touch and had little skill, rather than paying a few grand a week on him we would be better buying a first division striker who will score the same if not more goals and cost a fraction of the wages.If Miller comes fair enough but I can see why CG doesn't want him Alli has to realise that the days of pissing money in the wind at Ibrox are gone and he needs to get value for money with his transfer dealing which in a way for Alli it's prob better his best mate Murray is away from the scouting as he would have got Alli the sack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarcheVinny 1,003 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 To be fair Bikey would be a great signing in a position we badly need strengthened.Too old. Financially, he'd be a terrible signing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertent 2,081 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 And the good news is we have nearly 5 months of this sort of story to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,631 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I would hope this doesn't cause friction between McCoist and Green.It should be pretty straight forward; they shouldn't even be opening talks with Kenny Miller and his wages at that age and at this level are ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_Ibrox_Preacher 2,812 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Too old. Financially, he'd be a terrible signing.He's only 28. I dont think that's too old for a player who would be a drastic improvment on what we already have. Especially on a free transfer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He's only 28. I dont think that's too old for a player who would be a drastic improvment on what we already have. Especially on a free transfer.At 28 he'll be into his 30s by the time we return to the top flight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Too old. Financially, he'd be a terrible signing.He'd probably command a decent wage, but he's only 27/28. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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