Helicopter Sundae 5,967 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Good luck on that one Moyes.Fergie held it together, in spite of the arrival of the Glazers.The interest on that debt is £50 million a year, partially funded by money from the Champions League.Moyes, in all his time at Everton never beat any of the old big 4 away from home once!His European experience/record is piss poor.People talk about a continuity, how the hell is that any form of continuity.He will not get the lead time Fergie got to establish himself.Man United fans have been some of the most arrogant I have ever come across.If they slip up from here, then tough, as I see it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy500 463 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Weren't they in like £800 million two or three years ago?Not long until it's sorted by those standards Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helicopter Sundae 5,967 Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 If you are correct, then we must get intae that league fucking pronto.Then pass Man U on their way down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConorRFC51 38 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Moyes has the best record as a manager on money management in the whole league? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeonBlue 378 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Share issue in the US must have wiped out half the debt they had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol 401 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Moyes has the best record as a manager on money management in the whole league?Not strictly true but he has one of the better records. I think his net spend is about £6m over a decade.Still very impressive but Arsenal's net is actually a gain over that period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 That's fuck all to them tbh. Renaming Carrington, the new TV deal, being on the New York stock exchange will help them.They're confident of getting Ronaldo back this summer so they cant be that bad! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdasyn 431 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 It's easy to say Moyes didn't do this or do that, but he never had the budget and never had a team like the one he's about to inherit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Good luck on that one Moyes.Fergie held it together, in spite of the arrival of the Glazers.The interest on that debt is £50 million a year, partially funded by money from the Champions League.Moyes, in all his time at Everton never beat any of the old big 4 away from home once!His European experience/record is piss poor.People talk about a continuity, how the hell is that any form of continuity.He will not get the lead time Fergie got to establish himself.Man United fans have been some of the most arrogant I have ever come across.If they slip up from here, then tough, as I see it.And whats your point on the £400 million debt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
debear 603 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 It's easy to say Moyes didn't do this or do that, but he never had the budget and never had a team like the one he's about to inherit.Man Utds team needs huge work if they want to challenge in Europe.Ferdinand and Vidic aging and injury prone, Evra on the slippery slope.Lack of top quality in midfield, and on the wings. Scholes and Giggs still kicking about.Wellbeck is gash, Rooney a shadow of the past and looking to leave again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearer 124 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I doubt they are paying more than 10% in interest on their debt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankBearWATP 877 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Moyes will grow into the role. always got good players for good money. Depends if Man U allow him a year or two to grow into the role for another 20 odd years of stability Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 735 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 As someone has said, that's basically halved what it was when the Glazers did the dirty on them. No danger for them. Plus, their turnover must be astronomical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally62 393 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Moyes will grow into the role. always got good players for good money. Depends if Man U allow him a year or two to grow into the role for another 20 odd years of stabilityAye, so we found out to our cost ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,893 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Moyes will grow into the role. always got good players for good moneyAye, he can certainly pick a striker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 So they've won the league with "money they didn't have"?I bet the phone ins up here would have been teeming with concerned and enraged champions of sporting integrity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Blue_Flash 390 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 It was way more than that just last year and since announcing the joke of an appointment Moyes the shares and valuation have dropped.The club succeeded because of who is there and if he brings all his Everton rejects the club will not do well. I just can't believe someone who has won nothing can be picked, shocking decision Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 It was way more than that just last year and since announcing the joke of an appointment Moyes the shares and valuation have dropped.The club succeeded because of who is there and if he brings all his Everton rejects the club will not do well. I just can't believe someone who has won nothing can be picked, shocking decisionHaha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick1200 2,828 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 It was way more than that just last year and since announcing the joke of an appointment Moyes the shares and valuation have dropped.The club succeeded because of who is there and if he brings all his Everton rejects the club will not do well.I just can't believe someone who has won nothing can be picked, shocking decisionDoes he not deserve a chance? And if you you were man utd chairman who would you appoint as manage? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatPirateHooker 141 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 There is something like this posted every few weeks, this isn't the same kind of debt that Rangers were in.I don't have much knowledge about the subject but I've read loads of sources about how it really means bugger all and it's better for them to be in debt than out of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 It was way more than that just last year and since announcing the joke of an appointment Moyes the shares and valuation have dropped.The club succeeded because of who is there and if he brings all his Everton rejects the club will not do well.I just can't believe someone who has won nothing can be picked, shocking decisionHe was the choice of SAF and the unanimous choice of the board! You probably still think De Gea is an awful keeper so I think I'll go with SAFs opinion over yours.As for 'rejects' SAF has shown interest in Baines and Feilaini and those would be the most likely, if any to make the move. Would you object to him bringing Phil Neville in to join the coaching staff?The club succeeds because of the structure thats in place (thanks to SAF) and there will be little change to that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helicopter Sundae 5,967 Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 It will be interesting to see where Jelavic ends up, and what his transfer fee will be next time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 It will be interesting to see where Jelavic ends up, and what his transfer fee will be next time.Been linked with West Ham.He certainly wont get a big move after the season he had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Blue_Flash 390 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 He was the choice of SAF and the unanimous choice of the board! You probably still think De Gea is an awful keeper so I think I'll go with SAFs opinion over yours.As for 'rejects' SAF has shown interest in Baines and Feilaini and those would be the most likely, if any to make the move. Would you object to him bringing Phil Neville in to join the coaching staff?The club succeeds because of the structure thats in place (thanks to SAF) and there will be little change to that.I never asked you to 'take' my opinion over Fergie's you tedious man.Yes I think DeGea is still a s*** keeper, that award he got must have been an inside joke absolutely no way he's been best in PL, ok he's not been the complete train wreck he was last year but all year he's still been very weak and rubbish to watch.He might have said it but don't believe he would have actually brought those losers to Utd Baines particularly is so pish it's not true and Feliani, mr head butt himself not the right attitude needed at Utd. They didn't win anything at Everyon because Moyes and the players were S****. It's amazing Everton put up with him so long with so little return.It's an embarrassment globally, people are begging for Moyes to quit before he's even began. He's not fit to kiss Fergie's boots let alone be in his office and chairThey did well because of everyone there if the silly man had any sense he would keep Mike and Rene they know how win and what Utd's all about. Moyes knows nothing, it's a real disappointment, the club deserved much more, someone much better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,961 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Been linked with West Ham.He certainly wont get a big move after the season he had.Proof once again that looking a class player in the SPL doesn't necessarily mean you're a class player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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