JRodgA2k8 542 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 He played pretty well. Think of the way Rosol hit winners when he beat Nadal and you've got Anderson last night.Sometimes there's not a lot you can do.Fair comment...as I say I didn't see the match just those Andersen stats...ridiculous to be honest. Interestingly enough big Kev has won the last 4 matches against Stan Wawrinka I believe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
callumbo87 209 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Anderson was firing winners left, right and centre and played the game of his life against a superior player (see Darcis, Rosol, Stahkovsky, Brown etc)I don't understand how you think Murray could attack the serve any better than he did. Some of the volleying from Anderson was out of this world as well.He was firing winners but much of that was because Murray has no sting on his forehand, as the commentators were saying its the slowest he hashit his forehands throughout the year so Anderson could tee off on them. When Murray actually attacked him he won the point but when he let the rally run onAnderson took control hence him running far more throughout the match.Add to that his serving was the worst Ive seen it for a while, 2nd serve was being punished every time.In my opinion he is still far too passive and gets punished against the heavy hitting guys e.g Anderson Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,801 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Wawrinka easily beating Anderson and Federer easily beating Gasquet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,801 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Djokovic vs. CilicFederer vs. Stanimal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,932 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Stanimal's going to beat Federer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan 23 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Add to that his serving was the worst Ive seen it for a while, 2nd serve was being punished every time. 86/109 (79%) 1st serve points won 66/87 (76%) 26/62 (42%) 2nd serve points won 27/61 (44%) 81 Winners 49 57 Unforced errors 20 Murray actually won a better percentage of points on his 2nd serve. The damage was done on Anderson's first serve... it was almost impossible to read and get back so relax a little Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Wawrinka easily beating Anderson and Federer easily beating Gasquet.Anderson played absolutely wank! Federer might just get that elusive 18th Slam he's been chasing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
callumbo87 209 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 86/109 (79%)1st serve points won66/87 (76%)26/62 (42%)2nd serve points won27/61 (44%)81Winners4957Unforced errors20Murray actually won a better percentage of points on his 2nd serve.The damage was done on Anderson's first serve... it was almost impossible to read and get back so relax a littleIm relaxed man.His second serve is probably the weakest in the top 10 in my opinion and costs him games/matches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperLeeMcCulloch 2,330 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 86/109 (79%)1st serve points won66/87 (76%)26/62 (42%)2nd serve points won27/61 (44%)81Winners4957Unforced errors20Murray actually won a better percentage of points on his 2nd serve.The damage was done on Anderson's first serve... it was almost impossible to read and get back so relax a littleHe probably won more on his 2nd serve because his 1st serve was absolute wank, the amount of times he hits the net with his 1st serve is frustrating as fuck.I hope Federer wins but don't see him beating Djok in a 5 set match if he beats Cillic whos basically stayed under the radar the whole tournament again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,700 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Murray needs to ask Mr Lendl to come back and coach him or he'll be stuck in 2 majors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,932 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Lendl didn't want to spend the time required to be Murray's coach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 I don't understand why everyone thinks Murray is losing because he doesn't have Lendl. He's an elite level athlete. Sometimes the other elite level athletes out perform him.Sometimes a gun server doesn't miss for a match. Duncan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrymorrison1 1,033 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Lendl didn't want to spend the time required to be Murray's coach.I agree.. This is now in the past.I'd like Courier personally if iy doesn't work out with Bjorkman.He's had a very solid season.. Probably one of his best really. 1 slam final, 2 slam semis, ( one the French against Novak in a 5 set thriller) and a close 4th round loss against Anderson in the US.Winning on clay in masters, finals in hard courts in masters, winning queens, carrying team GB in Davis Cup, I think he has nothing to be ashamed of.We all know his strengths and weaknesses.. I don't think hiring Lendl again will guarantee a slam. It's consistency on serve and not folding mentally when not on his game that will see him through.Fed, as has been mentioned on here, served probably as good as, or if not better than he ever has at Wimbledon against him, and Fed even said he was surprised as he rates Murray and Novak as a couple of the best returners ever, then Anderson just caught lightening the other night.Murray hates Armstong, that and a sublime perfance from Anderson doesn't mean phone Ivan.I still think his target is the Australian. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Persson 547 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 It is hotting up nicely. Andy and Nadal are the two who are struggling for similar reasons. They have had injury and both their games are very physical. Yes they have lost it mentally a bit too but that comes with play and form. This is tennis. Any of those top 50 players can turn it on in a streak match and go for broke. Andy and Nadal are like those boxers who have had to fight rather than box. That can catch up. Still, Andy has done tremendous, even if he never wins another Slam. I mean, Roger is the Sugar Ray Leonard of tennis . I would like Roger to get this Slam. Will it just go with seeding now? Anyone could pull something out now though........all Slam winners. It's on the day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 It is hotting up nicely. Andy and Nadal are the two who are struggling for similar reasons. They have had injury and both their games are very physical. Yes they have lost it mentally a bit too but that comes with play and form. This is tennis. Any of those top 50 players can turn it on in a streak match and go for broke. Andy and Nadal are like those boxers who have had to fight rather than box. That can catch up. Still, Andy has done tremendous, even if he never wins another Slam. I mean, Roger is the Sugar Ray Leonard of tennis . I would like Roger to get this Slam. Will it just go with seeding now? Anyone could pull something out now though........all Slam winners. It's on the day.there's not much of this post I agree with. Andy has a couple of masters 1000's under his belt and beat Djokovic in one final. He has got to the Australia open , French semi, Wimbledon semi while Nadal has done nothing. Lost it mentally? He lost to Anderson having the game of his life on a court andy hates.There is no comparison between Murray and Nadal this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Persson 547 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Injury is the comparison. Andy has climbed a mountain to get back. Nadal is climbing his too. The latter has lost to some of the best tennis you will see in majors ever......from lower players. My comparison is not on their form this year. You only need look at their rankings and seeding to see that. Andy is not winning Slams. He is still short of something when it comes crunch in them. Mentally not as tough as his Wimbledon Slam period. That was the best mentally and attitude wise I have seen him. That comes with form too. Things just moved on for Nadal and Murray while they were out. Others won Slams and broke through. Djo and Roger even upped their game. Andy has not quite got the steam again yet to take Djo in a Slam. Forget Masters titles.......it's Slam time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan 23 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I don't understand why everyone thinks Murray is losing because he doesn't have Lendl. He's an elite level athlete. Sometimes the other elite level athletes out perform him. Sometimes a gun server doesn't miss for a match. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,932 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 To suggest Lendl could have stopped Murray losing to Anderson that day is a bit like suggesting Lendl could have stopped Nadal from losing to Rosol at Wimbledon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 The Serena slam is over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,801 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Federer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,932 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I'm a bit tired of seeing an elderly Federer losing slam finals to Novak now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,633 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Fed is gonna win it the Morra Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Persson 547 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 The achievement for Roger is fantastic. I don't know about the elderly thing. He is playing peak tennis not elderly tennis. Serving as well as ever. Moving as well too and getting to finals. Of course DJO is favourite but will still need to play top top tennis. If he doesn't, then King Roger could get that slam. Surely we are all rooting for him? I am delighted for the 32 yr old Italian girl. Serena still great but seems to be involved in so many 3 set matches now. She will get another Slam but the Grand Slam is getting out of reach now. Not a bad record for Italian women now with little Shiavone bagging a French at a late age too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,642 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 The achievement for Roger is fantastic. I don't know about the elderly thing. He is playing peak tennis not elderly tennis. Serving as well as ever. Moving as well too and getting to finals. Of course DJO is favourite but will still need to play top top tennis. If he doesn't, then King Roger could get that slam. Surely we are all rooting for him? I am delighted for the 32 yr old Italian girl. Serena still great but seems to be involved in so many 3 set matches now. She will get another Slam but the Grand Slam is getting out of reach now. Not a bad record for Italian women now with little Shiavone bagging a French at a late age too.'Peak tennis'No he isn't Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Persson 547 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Peak tennis against Andy at Wimbledon. Is he serving as well as he did? Is he hitting and moving as well as he did? I would say yes. He is winning the big points and he hits as many winners. I don't see any signs of tiring either. He has just demolished a recent double Slam winner in a semi. Only one of the other "greats" is beating Roger to Slams atm. If Serena Williams at 32 is still playing peak( recent slams prove it) why would Roger not still be able to produce at the same age. Serena is playing her same tennis but has not got a Djo to compete with........another "great). She has had it easier with demise of The Belgians. If Roger was not still playing peak, he would not be charging to Slam finals past Andy and Stan, like they weren't there. Unless you are saying that a 28yr old Roger could never lose to this 28yr old Djo? I don't believe that. This tennis that Djo plays combined with the movement and athleticism could match or better anyone. Roger is best "tennis player" ever. He is also a heck of an athlete. That's why he can still play his peak standard. I honestly think that if he thought he could not do that, he would quit. Serena Williams.What a bullshitter. " I have told you press guys, i never feel fear on court". She froze, she blew it. The best chance in 30 yrs to get a Grand Slam and it got to her. In a US open with the talented but inconsistent Simona Halep at no 2 seed? Womens tennis was quite weak this US open. She is deflecting and it got to her so bad that she walked out of press. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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