Bears r us 30,773 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Not going to commit to an answer just now as I hope to fuck we get a new manager so can turn it around, If you put in with Ally in charge would have been a no and playoffs at best.Are you pyschic mate, I was typing much the same as you at the same time. Maybe it is me that is pyschic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,021 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 At best playoffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 We won't catch Hearts.That is in no way down to Hearts being good, it's down to how shit we are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 We still have 2 games against Hearts and we can easily win both, there is a long way to go but I fully expect us to win the league but no more slip,ups, we need to build a head of steam and start putting 4 or 5 away most weeks.If we do come second then I fully expect us to win the play off, but I am not happy with Ally as manager i never have been, I honestly feel if Whyte had not run us to the ground he would have been long gone.3 defeats in the top flight never mind this level is unacceptable at the stage of the seasonIf we stick with Ally we won't Beat Hearts or Hibs.And tbh I can see us drop to third If he stays.we will drop more points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 if ally does not go we will be lucky too make the play offs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromDeAnglais 5,470 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Essentially we need to beat Hearts home and away then hope for a few draws else where. Ally is not the man to do this. We need a manager with authority. Someone who isn't a friend of the players, too much of a "one of the lads" atmosphere in that dressing room. McCoist was a perfect assistant. Kept morale going while Smith was the disciplined authority figure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I have very little confidence in the team or manager but I will say that if we can go on another run of 8 wins and a draw in doubt Hearts will match that. We need to cut the lead before we play them again. If it were back to 5 or 6 points by the time we play again at Ibrox we'd be doing ok and have a real chance again. We really need to win this league and avoid the jeopardy of playoffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupret 223 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Lets through some stats in the mix, so far we have drawn 2 lost 3, the last four Championship winners and old Division 1, won with the following totals.2013/14 Dundee Drew 6 Lost 9 Points 692012/13 Partick Drew 9 Lost 4 Points 782011/12 Ross Co Drew 13 Lost 1 Points 792010/11 Dunfermline Drew 10 Lost 6 Points 70Carefully considering the winning team's stats, I have concluded our manager is clueless, so they are unreliable at this time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueal 2,117 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There are only 7 league fixtures before we play Hearts again on Jan 17th. The hardest looking is Hibs away. I think we are capable to of winning these games and I'd be hopeful Hearts will drop at least 2 or 3 points in the same period. Games not over yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanFerguson2013 396 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 bottom line is that we have seen 12 point leads disappear in the past, in our favour and against us but we are already starting to need other teams to take points off of Hearts and for their squad to start to get injuries to make us winning the league likely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trains 588 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Cant see us doing it at the moment either as champions or via the play-offs but hopefully some changes at the top during January might change that opinion - fingers crossed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime69 514 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 i still think at the moment we can catch them.i still think Hearts will drop points.i do think though McCoist should go but i would give him until January to see where we are, i think we are capable of going on another run similar to the one before the Alloa game.just had a look at the fixtures and only just realised we play them at Tynecastle on the last day of the season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar 13,676 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I reckon we can but need to play at our best every single game and changes have to be made to the team.Don't think Ally can do it but no way I'm giving up at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_1 1,136 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 If and it's a big if, we need Hearts to falter sooner rather than later. We must not drop silly points for a large part of the season. We must start to win the big games against Hearts and Hibs for that matter. The players must stand up and be counted for. Whether the management situation changes or not, we are going to have to do it with this bunch of players so they must buck up their ideas and performances. My head says we under this management doesn't have what it takes, but heart is always optimistic. It'll have to be a massive change of fortunes on both sides of the M8. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossDas 1,071 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm looking at their stats and it seems that they have a fairly tight defence and generally don't have to do all that well in order to win; a dip in their form may not necessarily translate into dropped points. Moreover, were they to drop to our level of GD/points acquisition then that in itself would represent something of a collapse - and we're in second place. Oh yeah, and that's assuming we get our shit together before the gap can increase even further. If we can put together a solid run then there are still six points left to play for vs them, but the momentum is currently very much in their favour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,315 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Don't know if we can catch them - our club is certainly breaking them at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Blue Something 14 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 On paper and in my heart catching Hearts is possible. But I have watched the highlights from Saturday and the match statistics do not lie. We ended up with only 40 % possession in the end. Their fitness from their extended training sessions told in the end against our 10 men.Unless Hearts go through a period of injuries I cannot see them dropping enough points from the remaining 22 fixtures as McCoist will have us dropping more points in 2015 against more teams than just Hearts. What worries me is the number of out of contract players that McCoist will need to motivate come the play-offs. Hibs lost the play-offs last season due to too many players being at the end of their contracts and Butcher could not motivate them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie negri 8 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 We will be 2nd worst case.With some changes in staff and investment we should be able to overtake Heats in the new year.They will start to drop points Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear_in_Belgium 34 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 bottom line is that we have seen 12 point leads disappear in the past, in our favour and against us but we are already starting to need other teams to take points off of Hearts and for their squad to start to get injuries to make us winning the league likely.People keep saying this, but Hearts seem to be missing two or 3 players every week and they still win. They were missing 3 or 4 against us and still won. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
penicuikloyal 25 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 People keep saying this, but Hearts seem to be missing two or 3 players every week and they still win. They were missing 3 or 4 against us and still won.This is it for me tooThey had Sow Prince and Wilson missing all guaranteed starters yet their replacements did not look out of place. Gomis is now suspended but they bring in the new guy Pallardo who I thought controlled the game.To me fitness is the key as season goes on and our top players have to start performing in the big games. Perhaps we can afford to rest McLeod Wallace and Miller against some of the weaker teams.Heart says we will catch them. Head says we won't, not can't, but won't Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gers1690 194 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I'd be shocked if Hearts keep up their current momentum... I'm not sure the stats, but I read somewhere they normally do worse in the latter of half seasons than the first half but I'm not sure how accurate that is.I think we will do it... if not though, we will go up in the play-offs.COME ON YOU GERS! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy cox 664 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Dont thinks its as much can we catch Hearts more like will Hearts drop the points we need to catch them and will we not drop any at the same time.Cant see any of the two of them not dropping points just a matter of who drops the most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,638 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 We shouldn't be chasing hearts, they should be chasing us and yes we will catch them but not before he fucks ma blood pressure up good and proper ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Army Faction 28 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Still think we have a reasonable chance of winning by the playoffs, but can't see us catching Hearts and the playoffs are always a bit of a lottery especially with the way they are set up to benefit the Premiership team involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 my heart says yes but my brain says no,our hope is the playoffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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