JR 1,480 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Panos Pavlakis @PanosInAsiaGuys, it's football business,agreement was reached with all related parties, medical took place but Club has now withdrawn its interestThe above is what the Birmingham director actually said. It's open to interpretation if he actually meant the medical was the problem. Maybe being a little clever with language since the player pulled out to speak to us?Doesn't read like a failed medical to me ~ if he wants to come here it can only be good news Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,926 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Maybe not the box office signing some people were hoping for but we have a big rebuilding job ahead of us and we are going to sign a number of players. As a starting point I'm happy with this deal.A player who's best years are ahead of him, is well known by the manager, can play the style of football he wants and isn't costing a lot of money.There's not really a lot you can complain about.He's a cheap championship gem. He's better than what we have and what we had, and I've seen him play. Hell I've probably sat with him at the DW over the years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,775 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 He's a cheap championship gem. He's better than what we have and what we had, and I've seen him play. Hell I've probably sat with him at the DW over the years.If he's managed to hold down a place in a mid table championship team then he's easily good enough to play for us when you look at where we are at the moment.For years we've talked about moving towards trying to find players who might be less well know but prove to be better value for money and as soon as it looks like we are about to sign somebody who fits that criteria we start getting some discontented moaning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 He wasn't fit, had no kind of form, and was simply thrown in to our team at the last minute. Even so, I found his pace and direct running to be exciting and we've been needing a player like that. I looked at Newcastle and other forums he's been to and seem him described him as hard working and tenacious. He obvioulsy does have an end product because he takes corners and free-kicks. Warbuton wanted young players who will add to the value of the squad on and off the pitch and Ferguson fits that description. He's a young guy with EPL and international experience and we shouldn't just dismiss that. Newcastle are willing to let him go and I'd like to see us take a chance on him. You're strangely obsessed with him. Bet you've got posters of him up in your room haven't you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanofwright 199 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Where is this obsession people have with Shane Ferguson coming from......i know he was just back from injury but he did fuck all in the Motherwell games. He is very similar to Gregg Wylde IMOShane Ferguson, the new Calum Gallagher !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You're strangely obsessed with him. Bet you've got posters of him up in your room haven't you.Somone else brought him up a few pages ago in response to something I said. I'm simply explaining why I think he's worth a punt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK92GERS 807 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 really pleased with this imo good young age and defo plenty of potential watched him a few times last season solid acquisition and good to see the defence being sorted first the most important area needing attention Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,926 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 If he's managed to hold down a place in a mid table championship team then he's easily good enough to play for us when you look at where we are at the moment.For years we've talked about moving towards trying to find players who might be less well know but prove to be better value for money and as soon as it looks like we are about to sign somebody who fits that criteria we start getting some discontented moaning. Like I've said it was baffling Wigan let him go, and they paid for it. Abysmal run club last year.To someone like me who watches championship football and who watches Wigan in particular, there's really nothing wrong with the signing. To others, he's not a big name and so they don't quite like the sound of him so far. I never suggested because I thought it was unrealistic but he's an ideal signing for everything Warbuton is discussing, so too is Waghorn and I wish we'd take him too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor_Chang 1,055 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No sure. I know we need a squad but I was hoping Gasparatto would break through this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 1,480 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 He wasn't fit, had no kind of form, and was simply thrown in to our team at the last minute. Even so, I found his pace and direct running to be exciting and we've been needing a player like that. I looked at Newcastle and other forums he's been to and seem him described him as hard working and tenacious. He obvioulsy does have an end product because he takes corners and free-kicks. Warbuton wanted young players who will add to the value of the squad on and off the pitch and Ferguson fits that description. He's a young guy with EPL and international experience and we shouldn't just dismiss that. Newcastle are willing to let him go and I'd like to see us take a chance on him.Fair points Woukd be interesting to know what Warburton thinks about him, perhaps from the remaining guys in the changing room. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Kool Blue 139 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Fair points Woukd be interesting to know what Warburton thinks about him, perhaps from the remaining guys in the changing room.I'm sure he will, but we need bodies in at the back, as we've only got McGregor who can play CB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin93 136 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Not for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 1,480 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Not for meWhat's not for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamFyfe 1,438 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Plenty gems in the lower leagues to find Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,926 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I really like how Warbuton isn't hanging around either. One day in the job and he's already making things happen.This is a real sign of intent and I'm delighted at how quickly he is acting!He's taking this job extremely seriously and he knows what has to be done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMac 1,405 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 One of the problems we had in the past few years was the fact that most of our signings were well known players, made it easier for our opponents to deal with. A few unknown quantities like Kiernan could be a good thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,110 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Anyone know why we're signing this guy?! I didn't know he was pals with Ally or that he used to play for us? Baffled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillete 1,338 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Anyone know why we're signing this guy?! I didn't know he was pals with Ally or that he used to play for us? Baffled.Whit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambo 197 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No sure. I know we need a squad but I was hoping Gasparatto would break through this year.If Gasparatto and any other youngster for that matter is good enough they will break through regardless of who else is in the squad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 13,036 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 For £200k and the recommendation from MW, someone who actually knows the player and sees his potential, plus a load of praise from other clubs' fans, I think we can fairly say we have got a bargain.Others have come to us, known names in the game, with headline type reputations and cost us a pretty penny (In relation to where we were) and failed to impress.I have to say I know nothing about this player, but our new manager certainly does by all accounts, so I will go along with his choices and feel good that he will build us a team worth watching and cheering to victory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Like I've said it was baffling Wigan let him go, and they paid for it. Abysmal run club last year.To someone like me who watches championship football and who watches Wigan in particular, there's really nothing wrong with the signing. To others, he's not a big name and so they don't quite like the sound of him so far. I never suggested because I thought it was unrealistic but he's an ideal signing for everything Warbuton is discussing, so too is Waghorn and I wish we'd take him too.The reality of our circumstance is that we're going to need to pluck a few hidden gems out, probably from this sort of level.My misgiving would be around the number of places he's already been - there's usually a reason for that, and it isn't usually good!Have you heard what he's been like around the club, while he was there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgally 452 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 If Gasparatto and any other youngster for that matter is good enough they will break through regardless of who else is in the squad.Aye,that's what Warbs (can i call him that ) said, thay'll get their chance but they HAVE to be good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepBelieving1872 64 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 So we are still not sure if Birmingham pulled out due to medical reasons or if they pulled out at all etc?He is just back from Vegas and just had a medical..... #justsaying Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,926 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The reality of our circumstance is that we're going to need to pluck a few hidden gems out, probably from this sort of level.My misgiving would be around the number of places he's already been - there's usually a reason for that, and it isn't usually good!Have you heard what he's been like around the club, while he was there?Well he never a bad account for himself anyway. Seems a model pro who likes his football. His reasoning for loans was first team football as Martinez saw him as a player who could develop, but he wasn't ready for a survival fight with Wigan. Played well in first season in the championship before stupidly being loaned out last year but when he was he was very comfortable.He's been praised by just about every manager at Wigan anyway, and I like him too. Always would rather he played than Caldwell at the time, Rosler couldn't see that, and he got his punishment for that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robo2 38 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Congratulations to the board for digging deep and backing Warbs to the tune of 200k. I'm not sure we should be blowing so much of our warchest on the one player, no matter how good he is. It's great knowing we beat so many other clubs to his signature.The kids already seen more clubs than Arnold Palmer and might also be injured. He could be our next Michael Ball or Sebastian Rosenthal.But, Look out Celtic, here we come. you'd best post as much of this shyte as possible because by this time next week you will have nothing to complain about Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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