BridgeIsBlue 66,604 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 We won't be singing no one because Scott Allan has still to sign Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Bedoya is a good wee player and you cant seriously judge Celik properly as he never really got the chance.I thought both were awful, from what we saw of them anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 If warburton decides that the current squad is good enough(Which he won't) What Would that have to do with king/ the board?That's kind of the point, Warburton has made some additions and there is still thread after thread on here calling for king "to get his wallet out" - I trust that the management team will make the right decisions to fall in line with their own footballing philosophy and it has nothing to do with King.I would be surprised if there were no further additions but at the same time they have only been working with this group of players for a short time so I'd not be surprised if there are less additions than some are calling for... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,073 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I thought both were awful, from what we saw of them anyway. Given a chance, Bedoya turned out a good player...has played very well for the US and by all accounts does very well in the french Ligue 1. He only made 12 apps. (2 goals) for us, which is hardly a long time to prove yourself considering he mostly came on from the bench. There is also a bit of settling in to consider..He is a far better player than what we have now, in my opinion.As far as Celik goes, he made 5 apps.You have to remember that even Cristiano Ronaldo was pish for the first 2 seasons in England. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 Me.Beats me why some are now happy to accept mediocrity now Kings in charge.But if Warburton can develop the team with what's there its not accepting mediocrity is it? That's the flaw in your constant negativity. What would it take for you to back the manager? A 1mill+ signing?!We need to accept where we are as a club and what this management regime are trying to build from first principles brining in players for the sake of it isn't on the agenda - that's why we're in this state! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 There's still about 7 weeks until the transfer window closes. Any loans from down south may not happen until towards the end of the window once clubs finalise their league and European squads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,654 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 We won't be singing no one because Scott Allan has still to sign Joe the coach says it no happening mate. He sent a text! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 we need about another three players,two to play up front. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topgoalie 637 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I remember Durrant saying that, weeks before we brought in Ortiz, Celik, Stella, Bedoya and McKay!Both Bedoya and McKay played in the 2014 World Cup finals and Celik currently plies his trade in the Turkish SuperLig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Both Bedoya and McKay played in the 2014 World Cup finalsTo put this in context. It's probable Arnold Peralta would have too, if he wasn't injured. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandStandBear 995 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I remember Durrant saying that, weeks before we brought in Ortiz, Celik, Stella, Bedoya and McKay! Those names Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,689 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 What about the young players who have already appeared for the first team? Takes us to 21/22.Then we have dozens of youth players they'll be casting a discerning eye over to see who can step up. This isn't a time for panic IMO.I thought 17 included the likes of Hardie, McKay and Gallagher?? My mistake. Well hopefully two or three ( bigger names ) should do.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,082 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I hope the board gives Warburton the backing he deserves.Then we can judge the guy properly.My big fear is that he won't get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,604 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Joe the coach says it no happening mate. He sent a text!Tam the fishmonger sent me a fax and say's it definitely happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,845 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 That won't happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 But if Warburton can develop the team with what's there its not accepting mediocrity is it? That's the flaw in your constant negativity.What would it take for you to back the manager? A 1mill+ signing?!We need to accept where we are as a club and what this management regime are trying to build from first principles brining in players for the sake of it isn't on the agenda - that's why we're in this state!Maybe because I've seen whats there and know they are not good enough. Warburtons not a magician he will need backing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,518 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 we have 22 players if you include Sinnamon and Gasparotto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Both Bedoya and McKay played in the 2014 World Cup finals and Celik currently plies his trade in the Turkish SuperLig.That may well be true but it doesn't mean a thing. Tom Boyd also played in a World Cup and Kris Boyd was once a SuperLig player! As Albear said too, if it wasn't for injury, Arnold Peralta would also have been a World Cup player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds_Bear 8,103 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 We need more in. At least a couple.At least 5.Right back, two strikers, winger and a centre mid Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,689 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 we have 22 players if you include Sinnamon and Gasparottoboth good young players especially Sinnamon ( reserve captain ). I'm surprised Gasparratto was left of the 23 man Canada squad for the Gold Cup which begins today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonRFC 1,310 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 We need about 5 more FIRST TEAM players, let the ones that are left fight for a place but the quality has to be incredibly better than whats already there - theres no danger we wouldn't sign more, I'm expecting a striker to be signed by next weekend Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 The fact that we have to trial players tells me there is no money and they won't be good enough for the SPFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wawrinka 88 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 The fact that we have to trial players tells me there is no money and they won't be good enough for the SPFL.Total and utter horseshitEvery club in the world takes players on trial Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,572 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I remember Durrant saying that, weeks before we brought in Ortiz, Celik, Stella, Bedoya and McKay! I'd say genuinely that the only really poor player there is Ortiz, who I thought was a panic buy and should never have been signed. The rest were all young when we got them, and young players don't always work out. Stella hasn't made it. Celik was a regular in the Swedish under 21s when we signed him but his career hasn't really hit the heights since. Those players hardly cost us anything. Bedoya has gone on to have >30 US caps, and McKay >50 caps for Australia, both playing the World Cup so they are not bad players. If anything, they suffered from our appalling coaching at that time and constantly being played out of position. I think McKay was really homesick too as I recall. With our current coaching set up i'd be delighted if MW brought in under 21 regulars like that to coach and develop. I would never again want us to start panic buying or wasting wage money on players like Ortiz/Emerson/Capucho etc..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAmo'sThighs 848 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I don't understand the reasoning, I think it's pretty clear players last year were under performing, they were under prepared, disorganised, unfit, played out of position and not dropped regardless of form. I have no doubt our better players who either weren't seen for months, or their enjoyment and determination to win was slowly chipped away by our lack of structure, effected the team. Shiels, templeton, law, Wallace and too a lesser extent miller, all of whom would have got into most spl teams and every championship team IMO. I'm not discrediting hibs or hearts by the way, they assembled a cracking young team and deserved to finish above us, but they did that by being professional, having the right systems to suit the players they had, and everyone buying into the managers ethos... We didn't have an ethos to buy into. Providing Warburton has seen what templeton is capable of, what shiels is capable of, Law, McKay, Law, sinnamon, Murdoch, Gallagher etc... We really don't need that many attacking players. I do think he'll look to bring in a striker and a attacking mid however, but if he doesn't it's not the end of the world. We're in better shape than we've been in ages, purely because we have a system and players can go out and perform. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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