NetherburnBear 173 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just read an article in the Herald Scotland online that Ajax was contacted by the Sfa over the Banner they got fined off of Uefa for displaying at their game against the scum,the state that the sfa told them that "fenian bstard"and Orange Bstard were viewed as a badge of honour by their fans and is part of the game in Scotland . What the f#ck !@?? sorry can't copy and paste the article hope someone else can Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 SFA have just been given a 'boot in the baws' by UEFA EUROPEAN football's governing body has criticised its Scottish counterparts as "reckless" after an official document claimed it viewed sectarian terms as part of the national game.The Uefa report alleges the Scottish Football Association told Dutch giants Ajax terms such as 'Fenian' and 'Orange' were viewed as a "badge of honour" by half of Old Firm fans and it did not warn clubs about the use of such discriminatory language.It emerged in the findings of disciplinary action taken against Ajax after its fans displayed a banner with the words ‘Fenian Bastards’ when it last played Celtic in Amsterdam nearly two years ago.The clubs meet in a Europa League tie at the Amsterdam Arena on Thursday.But it has sparked fury, with the SFA insisting its only conversation with Ajax was to tell the club it would not provide any assistance in its disciplinary hearing.One SFA senior source said it was "deeply unhappy" Ajax had made the claim and "disappointed" Uefa did not check the comments with Glasgow.Ajax were fined £25,000 for the banner and ordered to close part of their stadium during a European game as punishment.Promoted storiesUefa claimed that when preparing its defence over the use of the term 'Fenian' by its fans, Ajax had been told by the SFA's disciplinary services manager that half the Celtic support used the word "as a badge of honour while the other half might consider it unpleasant".It added: "The Scottish FA did not consider the word 'Fenian' racist. It neither warned nor punished Celtic FC or Rangers FC for calling each other 'Orange Bastards' and “Fenian Bastards” respectively, since it considered such provocative words part of the game."It continues: "The fact that the Scottish FA, for its own internal reasons, does not consider references to 'Fenian Bastards' as an offence cannot prevent the Uefa disciplinary bodies from punishing such behaviour, since they are independent bodies."This argument, which therefore is clearly unfounded and even reckless, does not merit a more detailed assessment."But while the SFA has confirmed it was approached by Ajax to provide a statement as part of their case, it has insisted none was provided.A spokeswoman said: "The club was advised, in writing, that we would not provide any such statement. For the avoidance of doubt, the Scottish FA did not present the information outlined in the submissions and we are seeking clarification on this matter from Uefa."A senior source added: "Even if such a banner was displayed at a Scottish ground it would be a matter for the SPFL. "Uefa operates strict liability. We don't. We agree with it but its our members who decide."The report by Uefa's legal division includes details of evidence provided by anti-sectarian charity, whose campaign director Dave Scott told the panel that had the banner been displayed in Scotland it would have led to a prosecution.Mr Scott said: "Uefa have always been ahead of the Scottish game when it comes to tackling sectarianism and both Old Firm clubs have been fined for the behaviour of elements of their fan base at European matches."This ruling stands in stark contrast with continued inaction in Scotland and the blunt refusal of Scottish clubs to implement Uefa's ' Strict Liability' principles for tackling racism and sectarianism." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagglepuss 37 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't see what is racist about either term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I don't think any of them are offensive to be honest, loved the Ajax fans doing it though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carling1873 1,401 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Does that mean the TBB is now off the list of band songs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,147 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 So, can we get a refund of the fines we were hit with by UEFA back in 2006(?) for fans chants at Ibrox? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,109 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'd've fined the fined for missing the rancid out before Fenian bastards,or manky works just as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hope Ajax remind the mutant bastards how much they still hate them on Thursday night Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSM 20,892 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Just change the word 'fenian' for 'paedo' and carry on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighouse 1,007 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Good. A small victory for free speech. All we have to do now is lobby pressure groups like Amnesty to get the draconian Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012 removed. Probably the most authoritarian fascist piece of legislation seen in Western Europe since the fall of the Berlin Wall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,651 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hope Ajax remind the mutant bastards how much they still hate them on Thursday nightI suspect they will cant wait personally Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,498 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Magnificent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTID-WATP 23 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 So we can call septik fc supporters fenians? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 This isnt a good thing. Theyre just going to clamp down harder on fans now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,010 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Was it just me, but I found that article hard to make any sense of Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm sure the Ajax fans have ways of bypassing security in their own town.Tims getting flung aboot like empty shell suits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,000 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The football authorities aint got anything to do with the law of the land (only in this wee backward RANGERS hating country) would you see a stupid fuckin statement that the Football Authorities would find it ok to utter such fuckin shoite,just as a young lad has probably just finished a 4 month jail sentence for calling fenian rhats fenians. By the way Reagan. I am not an Orange 'bastard'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 This just in!The 'we don't like you, you aren't very nice' banner has now been deemed offensive.It's just a matter of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom0411 1,226 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 According to the Oxford dictionary that I have, a Fenian is a member of a political party in America that is trying to remove the British from Ireland. Nothing there that says the word is racist or bigoted just political, and this is where we fell down we should have argued that point when TBB was being banned. But at that time the club just took the view say nothing and it will go away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Be good if Police Scotland and the SNP shared the SFA's views. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,436 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Does that mean the TBB is now off the list of band songs?Looks like it mate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Disorderly 182 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Magnificent.Hamburg's No Surrender banner was a screamer!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkiebear 1,013 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Celtic fans have referred to themselves as being part of a "fenian army" at home and away games. I dont recall any chants fron rangers fans that refer to ourselves as " orange bastards" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 One refers to irish militant rebels and the other to charitable fraternal organisation. Why are they grouped together just because of the word bastard?The fenians need to make their mind up whether or not they find it offensive. Plenty of them say "im am unrepentant fenian bastard" ive never heard a Rangerd fan call himself an orange one. I mean come on only a tim would refer to themselves as a bastard, as if theyd need to Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Offical SFA rules are that Fenian is only offensive if an Orange Bastard says it, Orange Bastard is only offensive if an Orange Bastard says it otherwise it is the craick.Those are the new rules of the newly founded Independant Reporting Authority just formed in Hampden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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