Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We need to start being more attacking get the baw up the fucking park let Waggy win his header and feed off him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodebear 85 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 In answer to OP. No it doesn't. It's the right way to play, we just need better players to play it at a higher level.Especially in defence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I suggested earlier in the season that we may be better in a standard 3-5-2 set up. Anyone who knows football knows you can set up that way and with disciplined players it can quickly be 3-2-4-1 for example going forward or quickly into 5-4-1 I'd defence.It's more to do with players carrying out jobs than one set formation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperPapac05 3,383 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 4-3-3 is the best formation we can have. Minor tweaks are needed but overall it will become a success. 4-4-2 is done. No team should play that. We tried 4-2-3-1 under PLG and that was a disaster. 4-3-3 is the way forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,773 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Fuck me. Seriously?My feelings as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AldoKrfc 106 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We won 11 games out of 12 and blown 5 or 6 teams off the park so that proves we don't need a change in formation. A wee bit more concentration is all we need against better teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 3 years listening to "we need the same system at every level"One defeat it becomes "change! We need change dammit" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,393 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 We play the same formation every week which is a good thing for a team that has only been brought together recently. Means the players can work on a basic template and get to know each other.We need to use different formations in the medium term though. Otherwise better quality managers will set their teams up to really hurt us.Using the same formation no matter the opposition is tantamount to wearing the same jacket no matter the weather. Sooner or later you will be hit with a shit storm you are not prepared for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,229 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Ffs , aye right you are Jose Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamgers 1,214 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Stupid fucking post....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DESGER 241 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 All we need to compete for the top league is 3 new first team players!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 No need for knee jerk reactions IMO. The formation is fine. We've been crying out for an offensive, exciting brand of football for a long time and finally we have it. To change it due to one game would be naive at best.Football is a funny old game but ultimately poor defensive mistakes and individual errors cost us dearly. And when you go chasing you become more exposed. Also goals change games and if we take the lead things could have been so much different.Of course we need another side to our armoury but the players will get better and we will improve positionally and defensively. We will also sign better players going forward to fit into our system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,360 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 One defeat it becomes "change! We need change dammit"From one poster that no one agreed with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 From one poster that no one agreed with. I've seen much more than one say we should change things. There's been plenty of panic merchants on here since last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,689 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I like the 4-3-3 formation but the score may indicate a change. We needed players in the box late on so a 4-2-4 may have been an option. Can't see MW changing tweaking with this however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP FC 400 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I've had more entertainment with MW's formation in 3 months than I've had from the three managers in the last three years.I think I'll give his plan a bit more time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Obviously is not going to work against better teams. Leaving two at the back and so high up the park is just asking for trouble ala last night's third and St Mirren's first goal, not to mention getting caught far too often and being totally exposed.. I'd personally play something akin to a 3 2 3 1 1 -Wilson, Ball (sitting deeper in the middle) and Kiernan as a back 3Wallace and Tav higher up and when one goes the other drops back to make 4Holt Shiels Law with Shiels as sitling midfielderWaghorn in hole and maybe McKay up top (different I know but boy has pace to burn and can score)would certainly give us a bit of security, even if only playing this way against better teams than the championshipThe way we we play is just asking for trouble at times - thoughts(and no telling me to fuck off ya mad bams lol -cue first reply lol)Have you not got a garden to attend to Kenny??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracle 7,789 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The stats show we had 62% possession and 12 shots to St Johnstone's 6. I don't think that indicates that the problem was the formation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yes let's implement a new style of play and formation from the first team down to the under 13s and change it after our first defeat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 What? So we got taught a lesson last night.Davidson man-marked Zalalem into almost ineffectiveness in the final third. Oduwa was doubled and tripled most of the night. Waghorn missed a lot of Miller's runs most of the time.To play this strategy that Warburton wants requires high energy from the midfield not only going forward but also retreating into defence.Two men can't cover for four if they are not speedy. Either a man a bit further ahead of them to cut off the passing lanes or a straight 3-man defence.Plus, we had the inconsistency that youth is prone to.Lots to improve on but that's why we have a whole season, and not one game, to judge the team on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancedeangers1 287 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 IMO we are 3 players shy of a really decent team.We need a Bougherra type centre half with recovery pace to play alongside either Wilson or Kiernan.We need a proper holding midfield enforcer, in the mould of a Matic or even Wanyama ( sorry for the example ).And to finish we need a striker with pace, skill and predatory instincts. Probably similar to Jelavic with a bit more pace.Add those types alongside a bit of quality squad cover and we'd be in great shape.I'm not bothered by the defeat because we'll learn so much more from it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie 205 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Total kneejerk reaction from the OP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
writingranger 1,412 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I like our formation thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'm pretty sure that 4-3-3 means a back four so there's nothing intrinsically weak about the formation so why change it. If you push your FBs forward then you need a DM who will cover plus at least one reasonably quick CB, neither of which we had last night.We need to get some perspective here - two of the goals last night were due to idiotic defensive lapses NOT how the team lined up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,082 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'm pretty sure that 4-3-3 means a back four so there's nothing intrinsically weak about the formation so why change it. If you push your FBs forward then you need a DM who will cover plus at least one reasonably quick CB, neither of which we had last night.We need to get some perspective here - two of the goals last night were due to idiotic defensive lapses NOT how the team lined up.A lack of players who could play the positions, in other words? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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