Thornliebanktrueblue 667 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Many of our players are supporters who benefitted in the EBT years are supporters of our club I have no doubt.EBTs are loans without a fixed repayment date but are laons nonetheless.BDO are now appealing HMRCs judgement I understand with the support of David Murray.So.....If a couple of high profile EBT recipients or indeed DAavid Murray Himself were to write to Randgers... the dialoge might be as follows1. Dear Mr King,I wish re repay some of my EBT now. I wish to pay £100 per month for the next year and will then revisit the situation.Yours Sincerely,David Murray or Barry Ferguson or etc...2. Dear Barry,Many thanks for your offer and your captaincy of our great club. EBTs are now no longer the responsibility of our club but you may wish to communicate with BDOYours SincerelyDave King3. Dear BDOI wish re repay some of my EBT now. I wish to pay £100 per month for the next year and will then revisit the situation.Yours Sincerely,David Murray or Barry Ferguson or etc...4. Dear Barry,Many thanks for your repayment Barry. Please make a monthly cheque payable to BDO. This may help us establish that the EBTs were in fact Loans.Unfortunately when all this is settled there will be no one else to pay but your repayment for the next year is valued.Yours Sincerely,BDOAre you with me. If a single person repays a part of their EBT then it establishes the principle that they are indeed loans.54 titles ... and still going strong!Do it Barry!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,241 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 What a lovely thought....how is the weather in Utopia this morning? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBlue 136 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 No idea if this will work, but sounds a brilliant idea. Well doneIs Thornliebank under water yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,604 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 If I smoked a cigarette in a pub years ago should I hand myself into the local nick? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,735 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Good luck with that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I've considered this previously.However, I don't think it can have much of an effect now.Any penalty has to be lodged against oldco, anyway mate.And, when you think about it, as the biggest recipient, receiving approximately £6m, David Murray could have saved his own neck and the Club from administration, had he thought about it.Good point, though, albeit a little late. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Blue Nose 10 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Rangers oldco liquidators set to take 'Big Tax Case' to a Supreme Court appealhttp://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14040779.Rangers_oldco_liquidators_set_to_take__Big_Tax_Case__to_a_Supreme_Court_appeal/?ref=mr&lp=1-- Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 No disrespect OP but are you on glue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 More chance of getting payments for substandard work in the garden being repaid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mcv_ 107 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Don't see the issue. It was all legal at the time. Should I now need to pay for all those carrier bags I used over the years? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornliebanktrueblue 667 Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 You dont have to pay for carrier bags mate...cos you were going to take them back!EBTs were legal only if they were loans and HMRCs case is that they were not loans but payments. If one person repays a part of the loan then that reinforces their status as loans.I realise not likely to happen... but if it were me... and I was also a supporter... Id do what I could...Just saying Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornliebanktrueblue 667 Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 No idea if this will work, but sounds a brilliant idea. Well doneIs Thornliebank under water yet?Not sure mate... have now moved further down the clyde but thats where I was broaught up. Anyone else here in their 50s from the Village Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 There would be no harm in someone trying this, after all a few grand is nothing to most of them.Pay some back and make a point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Not sure mate... have now moved further down the clyde but thats where I was broaught up. Anyone else here in their 50s from the VillageIn my 60's and from Arden, my first house after I was shackled was in Thornliebank though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcoholic 1,348 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Are you taking gear???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mcv_ 107 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I hear what your saying. Don't like how HMRC are trying to change history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornliebanktrueblue 667 Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 In my 60's and from Arden, my first house after I was shackled was in Thornliebank though.54 and born there till 25. Started going to game at 6 with Dad, Uncles and the bowling green crowd. Those days passageway 7. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,845 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yeah, like that's going to happen, and like it would make a difference anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Tell Peter Pan that Hook says hello. Okay back to Never Never land.PlAyer mentioned in the op cannot even speak up for the club and that costs nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,315 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Fuck drinking later, I think I am steaming already after reading that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,810 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I don't think that the OP's idea is so daft as some suggest. I mooted that point some time ago. The repayment would require to go back into the Trust Fund though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therightway 65 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Problem is there is no member of the player/management/directors that wants to set any sort of precedent by starting to pay back their EBT as it could then lead to them or their estate when they pass having to pay all of the loan back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tontospal 1,116 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 As much chance as the scum repaying their state aid.Having said that the interpretation of EBTs as a loan confuses me. Loans ordinarily have lenders and repayment terms.My understanding is that any individual who benefitted from an EBT is not liable for any unpaid tax (if the last verdict is upheld) but the company is.But, what is the situation regarding repayment of the loan? Is it simply a case that the loan is a misnomer and no repayment ever was/is due?Additionally, what do the terms of any agreement with the recipients say? All the risk appears to be with Rangers when the risk should have surely been shared with the recipients. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATBB 1,524 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I'll have whatever you're smoking, sounds like some good shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Literally 90% of ex players don't give a shit about us - cash and themselves is king Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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