Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 tav hasnt been great the last few weeks but idont think we really have the same link on that side of the park so he is left doing everything , while down the left i think wallace and mckay link really well and overlap etcIt was pretty clear last night that we favoured going down the left, particularly in the 1st half. Wallace, McKay and even Zelalum were getting in each other's way at times whilst Tav was in acres of space on the right. It's true what you say he is pretty isolated and has to do more on his own. Waghorn and Clark didn't support him to same extent as others on left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 tav hasnt been great the last few weeks but idont think we really have the same link on that side of the park so he is left doing everything , while down the left i think wallace and mckay link really well and overlap etcWallace and Mckay have a lot of game time operating down the left. Tav less so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Wit!? Do you even watch us play? Cant fathom the dislike for Miller from some.Don't make me post the video. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Could we possibly see Miller taking up a role in the center of midfield? He was excellent last night coming off the bench and I'd say that he is more effective through the middle than on the wing. However, obviously he'll not be at the back post as often to score those trademark tap ins like earlier in the season.Can't tackle.Can't win headers,Can't shot from distance,Does not have a range of passing.He has no real awareness and he can't really see or spot a pass.He has spent his entire career with the game behind him as a striker, its a different game when its all around you,Does not have the speed of though or the quickness of feet to deal with possession in congested areas of the pitch.Does not possess that two footed ability and that technical ability to play in that area of the pitch.Never really looks truly comfortable in possession.So in my opinion, the answer is NO ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,448 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Wallace and Mckay have a lot of game time operating down the left. Tav less so.yeah true , i would like too see us bring in somebody for the right wing in jan and let them and tav build an understanding for next year Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 What about the guy doing the half time draw and announcements, it took forever.Has he been head hunted from Billy Smart's circus ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Miller in centre mid?! Fucking hell, a guy with a touch like a brick wall, lost his pace and can't pick a pass? Aye, alright Ally Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,689 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Can't tackle.Can't win headers,Can't shot from distance,Does not have a range of passing.He has no real awareness and he can't really see or spot a pass.He has spent his entire career with the game behind him as a striker, its a different game when its all around you,Does not have the speed of though or the quickness of feet to deal with possession in congested areas of the pitch.Does not possess that two footed ability and that technical ability to play in that area of the pitch.Never really looks truly comfortable in possession.So in my opinion, the answer is NO !you forgot to mention he is 35! Ha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Can't tackle.Can't win headers,Can't shot from distance,Does not have a range of passing.He has no real awareness and he can't really see or spot a pass.He has spent his entire career with the game behind him as a striker, its a different game when its all around you,Does not have the speed of though or the quickness of feet to deal with possession in congested areas of the pitch.Does not possess that two footed ability and that technical ability to play in that area of the pitch.Never really looks truly comfortable in possession.So in my opinion, the answer is NO !Why not just say, he is a striker, says all that for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rangers FC 751 Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 Can't tackle.Can't win headers,Can't shot from distance,Does not have a range of passing.He has no real awareness and he can't really see or spot a pass.He has spent his entire career with the game behind him as a striker, its a different game when its all around you,Does not have the speed of though or the quickness of feet to deal with possession in congested areas of the pitch.Does not possess that two footed ability and that technical ability to play in that area of the pitch.Never really looks truly comfortable in possession.So in my opinion, the answer is NO ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Why not just say, he is a striker, says all that for you.because some strikers can tackle.some strikers have vision and awareness etc etc etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted E Bayer 484 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Touch can be a bit heavy at times. Fine up front but in the middle of the park under pressure no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 My points still stand.He does not have a range of passing.He does not have any real awareness and he can't see or spot a pass. He pass in that video was directly in front of his line of vision and was the only positive movement in his line of vision.He was also coming on fresh against a part time team who had been ran ragged and who were dead on their feet.He never looks really comfortable in possession and he does not possess the technical ability to play in that area of the pitch.Hence the reason why numerous managers have never played him there, He can trap the ball further than I can kick it.He drops deep because he doesn't have the pace to run away from defenders any more. He goes wide because he wants space to catch his touch,He is a player who has played his entire career running onto the ball and looking for balls in behind. He is not and never will be a central midfielder.I could draw up a specification for a CM and list and detail key attributes that you would expect from a Central Midfielder.Miller would not tick many of the boxes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeJim 92 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 tav hasnt been great the last few weeks but idont think we really have the same link on that side of the park so he is left doing everything , while down the left i think wallace and mckay link really well and overlap etcWhen he was at his best earlier in the season McKay was playing a lot more on that side and I think that's making a difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclovin9091 1,388 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Fucking hope not, another McCulloch no ta. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 My points still stand.He does not have a range of passing.He does not have any real awareness and he can't see or spot a pass. He pass in that video was directly in front of his line of vision and was the only positive movement in his line of vision.He was also coming on fresh against a part time team who had been ran ragged and who were dead on their feet.He never looks really comfortable in possession and he does not possess the technical ability to play in that area of the pitch.Hence the reason why numerous managers have never played him there, He can trap the ball further than I can kick it.He drops deep because he doesn't have the pace to run away from defenders any more. He goes wide because he wants space to catch his touch,He is a player who has played his entire career running onto the ball and looking for balls in behind. He is not and never will be a central midfielder.I could draw up a specification for a CM and list and detail key attributes that you would expect from a Central Midfielder.Miller would not tick many of the boxes.Not a fan then? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Not a fan then? LolIn his prime during his 2nd spell he was terrific and his goalscoring record was impressive, but he is a limited footballer who is technically weak and he relied on his pace, once that goes he can only rely on experience.A technically gifted striker could possibly drop deeper and play a No 10 role, Kenny Miller does not have the attributes to play there, never mind centre midfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsden bear 2,376 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 In his prime during his 2nd spell he was terrific and his goalscoring record was impressive, but he is a limited footballer who is technically weak and he relied on his pace, once that goes he can only rely on experience.A technically gifted striker could possibly drop deeper and play a No 10 role, Kenny Miller does not have the attributes to play their, never mind centre midfield.I agree he isnt the best technically and not suited to midfield. What i do like though is his attitude and workrate.KM sets a good example to the younger guys and shows what can be achieved through graft and endeavor despite the obvious limitations to his game. He could well go on and do well in a coaching and/or ultimately a Management role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I agree he isnt the best technically and not suited to midfield. What i do like though is his attitude and workrate.KM sets a good example to the younger guys and shows what can be achieved through graft and endeavor despite the obvious limitations to his game. He could well go on and do well in a coaching and/or ultimately a Management role.The majority of good managers were not the best footballers and they had to think about and learn the game more.So I would agree with you in that respect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Rather than play Miller at CM can't we just go out and get a proper CM? There are better players out there than Kenny and I would've preferred it if he left this summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heshootshescores 1,904 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Judging from the impact he made the other night the gaffer is getting the best out of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,372 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 No, no, no. Miller should barely be starting games as one of the front 3, never mind starting at CM where he doesn't have the attributes for. Glad you're not the manager! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal-Bear 229 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Good for the last 30 mins. Think he offers more as an impact player than starting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ready1873 3,871 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Don't make me post the video.What one? The double v celtc? Or that other double v celtc? Or that goal in the final v St Mirren? Or some the other mass of goals he has scored for this club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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