rangersross 6,530 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 It's got nothing to do with height - it's physicality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie76 15,359 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Aye cos Messi is shite isn't he... Fucking hate this 'too wee' argumentWe're no talking about height mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,428 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Its not a "hes too wee" argument. Its the argument that English players look after themselves 10 times more than Scottish players. Their conditioning and athleticism is on another scale. Look at John Stones and John Soutar. The difference in physique is ridiculous. Even foderingham and bell. Foderingham looks in 10x better shape than Bell.It really is the culture up here. As someone said when I was growing up playing footy at 5s or whatever your like that how did he no make it? Rather drink buckie every weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,460 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 We are way behind as a country but I would say England have a lot of catching up too do with Europe , look at the injuries Liverpool are picking up because of the extra work klopp has them doing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Technique first and foremost surely. It's not too difficult with a good diet and gym work to bulk players up.Looking at the EPL there is some really average players who are simply athletes. Scottish football doesn't need that IMO.Look at the likes of Holt, McKay and Zelalem, they aren't 'built' and play near enough every week. So while athleticism is a factor MW doesn't see it as the be all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lidl 191 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nandos is just grilled chicken with spicy sauce. If anything we should be encouraging the players to go there. Top quality source of protein imho Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Its not a "hes too wee" argument. Its the argument that English players look after themselves 10 times more than Scottish players. Their conditioning and athleticism is on another scale. Look at John Stones and John Soutar. The difference in physique is ridiculous. Even foderingham and bell. Foderingham looks in 10x better shape than Bell.It really is the culture up here. As someone said when I was growing up playing footy at 5s or whatever your like that how did he no make it? Rather drink buckie every weekend. Aye, but Bell's got great tits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Aye cos Messi is shite isn't he... Fucking hate this 'too wee' argumentRead the comments before making a tit of yourself Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 We are way behind as a country but I would say England have a lot of catching up too do with Europe , look at the injuries Liverpool are picking up because of the extra work klopp has them doing heard an interview with him in the week where he said they weren't doing extra work - games are coming too thick & fast for that.I think the reason for all these injuries is that, fit as they may be, they aren't in good enough condition to play the high tempo pressing game he demands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfc_watp 1,503 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Couldn't agree more and it's down to attitude, diet and genetics.Scotland and the West of Scotland in particular has a terrible problem with lifestyle choices. Seen many a great player not make it as they didny have the commitment and desire, they'd rather be out getting mwi on the bevvy and scranning chippys.Sad but true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Bet old Donald Findlay will have a great day oot!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Bet old Donald Findlay will have a great day oot!!Wrong with thread ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,460 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 heard an interview with him in the week where he said they weren't doing extra work - games are coming too thick & fast for that.I think the reason for all these injuries is that, fit as they may be, they aren't in good enough condition to play the high tempo pressing game he demands.yeah I don't mean working them too much in training but too play his high press which you see a lot of European teams play they aren't fit enough and I doubt any of the English teams are Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 yeah I don't mean working them too much in training but too play his high press which you see a lot of European teams play they aren't fit enough and I doubt any of the English teams areGot you .May behind our recent dip - some guys not used to playing 20-odd games in a row full stop, far less at the levels being asked of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Got you .May behind our recent dip - some guys not used to playing 20-odd games in a row full stop, far less at the levels being asked of them.That's actually a really interesting point, especially regarding some of the lads who have spent a lot of time zipping around on loans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,460 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Got you .May behind our recent dip - some guys not used to playing 20-odd games in a row full stop, far less at the levels being asked of them.yeah that's why I think we maybe need 1 or 2 with experience too help our boys out Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,428 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 An interesting example is Andy Halliday. If you look at him at Livi (not sure how to upload pics), hes stick thin I know hes younger there but I'd bet my mortgage if he stayed at Livi he would still look like that. He went down England and came back up looking a lot fitter and stronger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,453 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Point taken folks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazz1972 397 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Wilo Flood v Loftus Cheek. Enough said.Is Willo Flood no Irish? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP FC 400 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 think the scotish first team regs at Ibrox are well built nowHalliday, Wallace, and now Mackay and Law seem well defined. could be the new training and professionsalism now in place?odowa and Zel are lightweights and they came from down south though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 That's actually a really interesting point, especially regarding some of the lads who have spent a lot of time zipping around on loans.Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 yeah that's why I think we maybe need 1 or 2 with experience too help our boys outYup! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 CheersEveryone has one eventually... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Everyone has one eventually... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billscott 2,463 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I understand the sentiment but I thought we were getting away from this ' we need big men' mentality. Besides, Jason Holt seems to be doing ok.dont think we are talking about height it is the it is the build and strenght you only need to look at the english leagues to see thatlast year inverness c.t. finished 3rd and won the cup thay were full of big strong players from non league or lower leagues in england Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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