GMac 1,405 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 http://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/rangers-boss-mark-warburton-believes-7146362?"That’s where his and chief scout Frank McParland’s expertise lies but he refuses to rule out a move for players in the SPFL – even though he feels even some of Rangers’ youngsters lack the physique of their English counterparts."Always thought this was an issue. Moreso when I saw the physique of the likes of Waghorn and Tav, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Nonsense; look at Derek Johnstone, he's the size of two Englishmen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He eats enough pies for 2 Englishmen, even those from Wigan (Pie eating centre of the Universe). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Robot 21,125 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 We've still won nothing but time will tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,404 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I have noticed after seeing tav the difference certainly in athleticism from English to Scottish players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,257 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If you compare Tav to sinnamon or aird hes a tank. Same with Waggy compared to Danny Stoney we used to have or Hardie whose like a beanpole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I've always felt this. Players in England look like absolute beasts compared to Scottish ones.I remember Hearts lining up against Tottenham about 5 years ago, it was like boys versus men! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueThunder 8,452 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I understand the sentiment but I thought we were getting away from this ' we need big men' mentality. Besides, Jason Holt seems to be doing ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobham 1,569 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Wilo Flood v Loftus Cheek. Enough said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tontospal 1,116 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Talking about players in Scotland, Rangers could do a lot worse than call Alan Johnston and get El Bakhtaoui in now. The lad is on fire and was excellent against Ross County.I would offer them Clark on loan to the end of the season as part of the deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Talking about players in Scotland, Rangers could do a lot worse than call Alan Johnston and get El Bakhtaoui in now. The lad is on fire and was excellent against Ross County.I would offer them Clark on loan to the end of the season as part of the deal.Was just thinking that last night, his footwork and goals were absolutely superb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMckee 3,404 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I understand the sentiment but I thought we were getting away from this ' we need big men' mentality. Besides, Jason Holt seems to be doing ok. it's not really about big men, tav isn't big in that sense but you can tell by looking at him that his athleticism and strength is something you don't see in many Scottish players which is down to training and diet. With MW in charge now and over hauling the youth set up I think we shall see more of our own youth getting into that type of build. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Those discussing height are missing the point.Scottish football just isn't developing athletic footballers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,030 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I understand the sentiment but I thought we were getting away from this ' we need big men' mentality. Besides, Jason Holt seems to be doing ok.Very good point BT.I suppose it's a matter of combining size & althleticism.I recall a few years back Scotland's (u20's, I think) getting an absolute chasing by a Japanese team who looked like wee boys by comparison.The Scot's lads looked like big lumps of wood (think Gary Kenneth), with little mobility or flexibility.Re Holt, similar build to Edin Hazard - just wondering if Hazard's recent lack of form is some sort of burn-out caused by evading the clutches of the bigger 'athletes' out there?Interesting to see how Jason develops. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,257 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Talking about players in Scotland, Rangers could do a lot worse than call Alan Johnston and get El Bakhtaoui in now. The lad is on fire and was excellent against Ross County.I would offer them Clark on loan to the end of the season as part of the deal.20 goals in nearly 60 apps in league 1. Not good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,657 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I understand the sentiment but I thought we were getting away from this ' we need big men' mentality. Besides, Jason Holt seems to be doing ok.I think there's difference between being a "big man" in the hammer thrower mould of a Ross Tokely or Garry Kenneth and looking like an athlete like Kiernan, Waghorn and Tavernier do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday Loyal 998 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Those two taigs at Wednesday are only small but are brilliant at the minute Bannan and Wallace Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del 667 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I said this when we first signed Keirnan.When they released photos of his medical he looked like a tank, he's a big CB and although he doesn't have the same build as Waghorn he is solid.Compare him with Danny Wilson (same age, similar height and weight) and its night and day, Keirnan looks like a professional footballer and Danny Wilson looks like an average guy.I'm not saying we need to sign "big men" Jason Holt has been one of our best players this year and isn't what you would call a "big man" but there is a notable difference in the physique of players down south compared to up here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I understand the sentiment but I thought we were getting away from this ' we need big men' mentality. Besides, Jason Holt seems to be doing ok.You don't need to be big height wise but I'd say it's important for players to be strong enough and athletic enough to cope with the demands of the modern game. Look at the the different physiques of our two centre halves when they signed, Kiernan and Wilson. You can tell which one is Scottish and which one is English! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannerall 25,935 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Mark correct about the quality of food being good in the West of Scotland so its obvious they are eating the wrong type. No more Nandos and fancy cocktail bar drinks. Get them back on the salted porridge and half time Irn Bru. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,230 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Can't be blindly applied across the board Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowsBlue 329 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I've always thought english players take their development and conditioning more seriously than us in scotland. How many good footballers have we all grew up with to hear that they've gave it up cos they would rather go out drinking with their mates Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris1984 1,213 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Aye cos Messi is shite isn't he... Fucking hate this 'too wee' argument Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Talking about players in Scotland, Rangers could do a lot worse than call Alan Johnston and get El Bakhtaoui in now. The lad is on fire and was excellent against Ross County.I would offer them Clark on loan to the end of the season as part of the deal.He's been on fire all season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Aye cos Messi is shite isn't he... Fucking hate this 'too wee' argumentPretty clear we're talking build here,not height.For the size of him,Messi is a strong wee cunt. Boys up here are wee whippets,a slight breeze could blow them off the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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