STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Really hope we bring a striker in this window.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazy74 57 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Youre actin the Goat ...but yer correct , we shooda made it double figures today ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Hardie is a natural goalscorer and our tallest striker, a useful option we don't have/use currently. MW constantly sings his praises, both on ability and mentality, and we've given him a new contract. He should be getting more game time IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I disagree. Haven't seen much from Hardie to indicate that he would play better than Miller at the moment. Miller isn't the best and we will 100% need someone better than him next season but at the moment he is the best option unless we play Waghorn down the middle like the start of the season.Also thought Miller was good today. Set up Wallace's goal with a nice pass and got involved all over the place.Thought miller was better than normal, but fairly average. Couple of valuable contributions. But also too often sloppy play. Really just don't see what he brings. And I know he's experience out there but the younger ones are outshining him by country miles.But suppose it's all about opinions. And MWs is the one that counts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I want Hardie to do well, however if his game time is limited he really needs to start making an impact when he comes on (especially against opposition like Cowdenbeath). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Hardie is a natural goalscorer and our tallest striker, a useful option we don't have/use currently. MW constantly sings his praises, both on ability and mentality, and we've given him a new contract. He should be getting more game time IMO.I believe Hardie may fall into the ' too weak' category the manager spoke about.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I believe Hardie may fall into the ' too weak' category the manager spoke about..Not the way he constantly praises him imo, but maybe.However McKay, Zelalem, Holt are hardly weightlifters and they play near enough every week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Does Waghorn not have 25 in 28 games?Don't think he's disputing the stats mate, like him though I'm more concerned about tight games when you don't get many chances, that is when we need a clinical finisher and though I've loved Waggys contribution this season I don't think anyone believes he's a clinical finisher, and with the chances he's been provided with this season I would really expect any of our strikers to have around the same numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tontospal 1,116 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Miller is the weak link in the side. Rangers could quite easily have had double figures today with a player that can control, play simple passes and finish easy chances.I posted earlier today that we could do worse than El Bakhtaoui from DunfermlineMiller has had an incredible career - past tense.I would love to see the analysts report or video on Miller's performance today because some of his play was woeful and that is an understatement.5-1 today and a good performance but it could have been so much more.I have not forgotten he scored a hattrick last week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Not the way he constantly praises him imo, but maybe.However McKay, Zelalem, Holt are hardly weightlifters and they play near enough every week.Aye,true.Only difference i'd say is that as a number 9 you play with your back to goal more and need strength to hold off defenders.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,801 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Hardie could do with bulking up slightly however that will probably come with age and more first-team football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,238 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Aye,true.Only difference i'd say is that as a number 9 you play with your back to goal more and need strength to hold off defenders..McCoist wasn't exactly Mr Universe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6superbarry6 14,159 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'd be amazed if Warburton wasn't actively looking to sign a striker someone like Adam Le Fondre would be ideal not sure how much he's cost tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM6 279 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Tbh it makes sense to me. If we're scoring this many goals with only one goalscoring striker (the rest do chip in but Waggy is miles ahead), imagine how many goals we'd score with another center forward up there. Waghorn is more than capable of scoring goals from the right. Fraser Fyvie can vouch for that.If we get the boy from Brentford I'd also look for a center half first and foremost, and if possible a striker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishyB 10 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I doubt our shots to goals ratio is much different to any team at the top of their league. Aye we do miss some sitters but every possesion based team miss quite a lot more than they score. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I must admit, I've also thought we seem to be struggling with our finishing a bit but I've just gone all geeky and crunched some numbers.Our conversion rate for 2015/16 is 17.43% (1 goal in every 5.7 attempts)For comparison: Our conversion rate for 2014/15 was 13.62% (1 in 7.3)Hibs conversion rate for 2015/16 is 13.94% (1 in 7.2)Beasts conversion rate for 2015/16 is 13.38% (1 in 7.5)For the beasts, I have only counted domestic games.For a wider comparison, Man Utd had the best conversion rate in the EPL between 2009 and 2015 and that was also between 13% and 14%.In other words, I don't think we will face any problems domestically if we maintain our current rate. I just think we aren't used to seeing Rangers dominate games this much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,707 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I must admit, I've also thought we seem to be struggling with our finishing a bit but I've just gone all geeky and crunched some numbers.Our conversion rate for 2015/16 is 17.43% (1 goal in every 5.7 attempts)For comparison: Our conversion rate for 2014/15 was 13.62% (1 in 7.3)Hibs conversion rate for 2015/16 is 13.94% (1 in 7.2)Beasts conversion rate for 2015/16 is 13.38% (1 in 7.5)For the beasts, I have only counted domestic games.For a wider comparison, Man Utd had the best conversion rate in the EPL between 2009 and 2015 and that was also between 13% and 14%.In other words, I don't think we will face any problems domestically if we maintain our current rate. I just think we aren't used to seeing Rangers dominate games this much.I think its more about the clear cut chances we're missing rather than overall, the ones that really should be going in the net. The better the opposition the fewer clear cut chances you get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Bear 433 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Miller is the weak link in the side.Rangers could quite easily have had double figures today with a player that can control, play simple passes and finish easy chances.I posted earlier today that we could do worse than El Bakhtaoui from DunfermlineMiller has had an incredible career - past tense.I would love to see the analysts report or video on Miller's performance today because some of his play was woeful and that is an understatement.5-1 today and a good performance but it could have been so much more.I have not forgotten he scored a hattrick last week.A bit harsh imo. Miller didn't have a great game today but it wasn't a shocker. His finishing was pretty poor, as we all know it can be, but his off the ball stuff and dragging defenders apart was pretty good. Think this will be his last season starting though it is quite clear that the brain is still as sharp and quick as every but the message is 1 or seconds slower getting to the legs these day.I reckon when he gets a bit more match fit, Forrester will replace Miller in the front 3. Hopefully by the game against Falkirk at the end of the month. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 McCoist wasn't exactly Mr UniverseNo, but he was playing under a different system where we had two forwards playing off each other, a system which has served us well over the years since, in my time, Miller & Brand. We are now playing a different system and we older Bears may take a bit longer to get used to it. For example, Tav has scored 7 (I think) this season; I don't think Bobby Shearer scored 7 in his career but I still rate BS as the better RB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markem 7,251 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I do wonder if it's been that long since we have watched a team that creates so many chances that we have forgot that the law of averages says we won't score them all.I include myself in that, as I came away from today again having criticised the finishing I ask myself what I would have viewed as an acceptable amount of goals scored? 9? 10? - it's not really realistic, or is it?.....I am convinced somebody is going to take a doing like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I do wonder if it's been that long since we have watched a team that creates so many chances that we have forgot that the law of averages says we won't score them all.Spot on there. When you score 5 and people complain about not taking our chances it's a bit silly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRice1872 105 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Today's goal ratio was 1 goal in every 6 shots. Not bad really but could improve. A fair amount of shots come from outside the box. I think that you wouldn't want to try and make it like 1 goal every 2 shots but risk start overplaying the ball and risk becoming sterile in attack...I'm not sure how this ratio compares to teams like Bayern who play similar and dominate their matches like us but it's probably not far off...Like Warburton said 'We're in good shape. We're happy.' Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,778 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 No, but he was playing under a different system where we had two forwards playing off each other, a system which has served us well over the years since, in my time, Miller & Brand. We are now playing a different system and we older Bears may take a bit longer to get used to it. For example, Tav has scored 7 (I think) this season; I don't think Bobby Shearer scored 7 in his career but I still rate BS as the better RB.Tavs on 11, our next top scorer behind waggy. He's also sitting on top with assists at 14, 3 ahead of Baz Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I think Hardie needs to go out on loan to have a chance at us as he's not going to get any game time before Miller or Waghorn even Clarks been used before him.A wee loan spell were he could play every week would help bring him on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio 1,199 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yeah, we have missed some amount of chances this season, but another way to look at it is that we are the highest goal Scorers in the UK, and we are fucking good on the eye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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