UpStepsTheHammer 93 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I know every team in the world is a selling club, when a buying side wants to through insane amounts of money for players then suppose it's inevitable. However...In my opinion we shouldn't be selling any of our players wether it be this window or in the summer. I don't see anybody willing to pay 'insane' amounts of money for players signed for peanuts in the summer after half a season or 1 excellent season in the championship of Scotland. So £1m or £2m for our best players shouldn't be entertained at all. The value of these players to the team we are trying to build to compete is worth more IMO. You can't keep finding Tav's, Waghorns and Holts for that type of money. We need to build a team.It doesn't strike me as the type of player we have too just jump ship as soon as England comes calling like so many Scottish or even European players that have used us as a stepping stone. The players we signed struggled down south so they appreciate what they have here, same with Halliday and Holt. Genuinely excited by the type of player we have here, young, hungry, with ability and something to prove. They have only seen a tiny glimpse of what Rangers are about as a club against Hibs on the 28th. Imagine what it will be like for them when we are back in the big time playing in Europe and skelping the tarriers...If the board where to sell any player just now or even in the summer then it raises serious questions about where we are going as a club, especially as we are supposed to be about building not weakening. Ok if someone offers crazy money for a player we might not have a choice, and it might make sense. But not for anything less than a handsome offer. People on here have said 'oh but if Sheff Wed come in and double Waggy's wages he will be away' but for me I don't think that's true. Call me naive if you like but I think our players are more about football and trophies than struggling in the championship. If a EPL side comes calling them it's a different ball game...What's your thoughts ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp9 753 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Money talks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,606 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 We shouldn't be listening to any offers until we're back playing in the CL.Maximum value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,321 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Money talks.But it don't sing or dance and it don't walk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 We are a selling club, with that has to come success as well though but tbh they go hand in hand, picking up players for next to nothing then getting inflated fees and moving them on has to be part of our plan, providing we are confident enough we can source effective replacements.If we sold Foderingham and Waghorn in the summer for a profit then of course I'd be disappointed but that's how we have to operate now.I'm quite sure we would bring in adequate replacements then start the circle again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,248 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Wouldn't sell anyone until back in top division, after that the reality is we'll be trying to find the odd gem we can get 2 years out of them sell on for £5-10mIt's the only way we'll be able to fund new players IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMotor 2,208 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 We shouldn't be selling anyone for financial reasons until after 55.If the manager is happy to sell for footballing reasons, no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Wouldn't sell anyone until back in top division, after that the reality is we'll be trying to find the odd gem we can get 2 years out of them sell on for £5-10mIt's the only way we'll be able to fund new players IMOCorrect no point selling our players until they are at peak of value ,hopefully the msm will hype them like the overrated players that the savilles have punted in recent years I won't hold my breath though expect no favours from that lot Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpStepsTheHammer 93 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Absolutely agree with all these posts so far, but surely the value in selling them before we play in the top league or Europe isn't worth it!??I agree buying players for £500k or a £1m to sell for 5x that at least the next season or 2 is exactly the way to go. But for me we shouldn't be selling these players for that low an amount. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I'm happy to sell as long as we play it correctly...we should look to the other side of the city, whether you like it or not, and try to maximise the value of our own like they do.I feel over the years we've short changed ourselves especially given our financial situation...but surely now, with some stability, we can now hold out for millions more than we would have previously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misteral 2,932 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Even if we do take a stance of not selling our best players for a while, money talks, and if a decent bid is made and the player has a chance to earn serious money then that will be that. Players have the power to decide whether to leave a club or not and clubs have their hands tied, at the end of the day.But no disappointing deals, please, Rangers Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 We should be waiting til next summer after a year in the top flight, or at least next January. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The model of buying young and at a low price, improving them and selling them is obviously the ultimate aim. Everybody has a price. Even now, although ideally you want to get a few years from people before you sell them. You need to try to get some degree of continuity and to get some use from a player. Things changing that bit too often probably isn't a good thing.I'm hoping to see Waghorn, Tavernier and a few others sign slightly longer contracts with this aim in mind, as with Holt and Halliday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,097 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 But it don't sing or dance and it don't walk."As long as I can have you..Here with me..I'd much rather be..Forever In Blue Jeans Babe.." Not to take the piss out of the OP just couldn't resist....Neil Diamond..CLASS.. To get back to the point..If we get a decent enough offer then we sell..I can remember being shocked when we accepted Marseilles bid for Trevor Steven..and then we had all the money in the world..It is now a situation that we will have to accept..Our players may leave, but at fear of repeating myself as long as they are going for decent money and being replaced then it's ok wae me.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brazz1972 397 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 If we sell Waghorn or Tav for say £1.5m each at some point I would trust MW to use the money wisely and bring in players just as good if not better. Trust the manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,428 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 We really should be maximising their worth like Cellic. Yesterday Rogic was touted for Leeds, today hes apparently on the verge of signing a new contract, hence meaning they get more money cause of the longer contract. Collins was asked months ago what he thought of Tierney's performances his first reply was "hes a £5m left back" the kid had played about 8 games it the time. We need to start standing strong, especially with those who are on 2 year contracts or more we should be maximising their worth. Personally I don't think any will go until we've won the league and then we should be looking to cash in with the players and rightfully so they probably will play at a higher level but we should not be bossed about by clubs who have more money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,462 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Fans of our club are afraid to 'over value' our players.Celtic value Tierney (?) at £5m after 8 average games, while we have folk saying they'd take £750k for Waghorn. Ultimately, the media and social media can influence a players value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,833 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I don't believe we will sell any of our top players this window even if an offer of 1 or 2 million were to be tabled. So in that way, I don't believe we are a selling club at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 MW should decide. I'm ok with that. Anyway.. We are not in a selling position right now. We need results in a higher flight that we are in to maximise profits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Only sell the shite ones Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,799 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 There is a balance and if MW identifies a replacement that is cheaper and the money offered is good then what is the problem with selling? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Not against selling as long as players are valued correctly and we can identify and bring suitable replacements. I do worry that money received from selling players may not get pumped back into the team. If that is correctly addressed and the board listen to the manager's team with regards pricing of players to be sold then I can live with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I have long believed that we should always be looking to buy low & sell high, this means that we will always lose our better players but only ever for a profit. We sell ourselves to other young talent as a stepping stone to the riches that is the EPL, a route through which they showcase their talent & skill and get the move they desire and we get to benefit from that prodigious talent and make a profit too. With that method, the support MUST come to realise that we will ALWAYS lose our best players, this also applies to our own reared talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,062 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Everyone has their price, so if another club matches that price you sell. 1 million for Waghorn is not his price though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 If we sell Waghorn or Tav for say £1.5m each at some point I would trust MW to use the money wisely and bring in players just as good if not better. Trust the manager.For those derisory amounts that would sound alarm bells for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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