Tiger Shaw 30,137 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ball to replace Halliday in the holding role and Holt ( If fit ) to replace Zelalem, the rest as we were for Morton 3-1 Rangers and 8 points clear...... Fuck you Hibbies we're gonny win the league Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclothmonster 1,680 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 19 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: Ball to replace Haliday in the holding role and Holt ( If fit ) to replace Zelalem, the rest as we were for Morton 3-1 Rangers and 8 points clear...... Fuck you Hibbies we're gonny win the league Didn't we try Ball in the holding role against Hibs at Easter road and the back 5 was an absolute bomb scare until Wilson was hooked after 25 minutes? Personally I'd like Thompson to come in for Halliday even if it is a big match for a youngster to come in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monk 3,207 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hibs need us to drop points here, a win would do a lot to kill off any hope they have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donegal_ger 253 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, theclothmonster said: Didn't we try Ball in the holding role against Hibs at Easter road and the back 5 was an absolute bomb scare until Wilson was hooked after 25 minutes? Personally I'd like Thompson to come in for Halliday even if it is a big match for a youngster to come in. Ball didn't play the holding role that day he played in a back 3 with Kiernan and Wilson, until Wilson was hooked then we went back to our usual system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,940 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Would like to see Mckay in the middle with Holt, Mckay looked brilliant there yesterday. Would put Forrester on the wing. 3-1 Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 1,114 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Please let Jason Holt be fit, don't think this is a game for Zelalem. We need the purposeful drive as per the Hibs match. writingranger and Tiger Shaw 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,137 Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, theclothmonster said: Didn't we try Ball in the holding role against Hibs at Easter road and the back 5 was an absolute bomb scare until Wilson was hooked after 25 minutes? Personally I'd like Thompson to come in for Halliday even if it is a big match for a youngster to come in. I would be happy to see the lad Thompson get a start against Falkirk but I think Warburton will go with Ball. Think we tinkered with the formation in that Hibs game mate and started with a back three, canny really remember tbh.? buster. and allgers 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,260 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Would like to see Mckay in the middle with Holt, Mckay looked brilliant there yesterday. Would put Forrester on the wing. 3-1 Rangers. I'd go with this, thought McKay caused them problems in the middle. id also like Thompson for Halliday rather than ball, nothing against ball just prefer him to play central defence when he plays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 1,114 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: I would be happy to see the lad Thompson get a start against Falkirk but I think Warburton will go with Ball. Think we tinkered with the formation in that Hibs game mate and started with a back three, canny really remember tbh.? I'd play Thompson instead of Zelalem (if Holt is out).......but it won't happen. Ball is a stick-on for the Haliday role. Tiger Shaw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 the only change from last night will be Holt for Zalelam and who replaces Halliday - whether MW goes Zalelam/Holt/Law - or Law/ Holt/ Ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgers 735 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 16 minutes ago, Tiger Shaw said: I would be happy to see the lad Thompson get a start against Falkirk but I think Warburton will go with Ball. Think we tinkered with the formation in that Hibs game mate and started with a back three, canny really remember tbh.? Ball in for Halliday and Holt back in for Zelalem. Really need an improvement from last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacBoyd 5,328 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Shiels will start polar bear and Prso is King 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 54,676 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 As big a game as the last hibs match IMO. Another win keeps the pressure on Hibs and will essentially see off any challenge that may have come from Falkirk. They then need to battle with hibs for 2nd if we keep winning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,920 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Going down to London to visit my mum for her birthday. Absolutely gutted to miss this one, but I do hope those attending enjoy the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,920 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 hour ago, buster. said: Please let Jason Holt be fit, don't think this is a game for Zelalem. We need the purposeful drive as per the Hibs match. Can see Shiels coming in if Holt is injured. I just don't know if Zelalem would be chosen to start. Shiels always makes an impact off the bench, though, which we will lose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 1,114 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Marky. said: Can see Shiels coming in if Holt is injured. I just don't know if Zelalem would be chosen to start. Shiels always makes an impact off the bench, though, which we will lose. I think MW saw that Zelalem wasn't the man to shake us out from what was a relatively unconvincing run of form prior to the Hibs game and put Law in his place. We needed more forward momentum and less sideways. I think we need to be positive on Saturday and look for a similar approach to that of the Hibs game. ie. Zelalem on the bench Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,920 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 minute ago, buster. said: I think MW saw that Zelalem wasn't the man to shake us out from what was a relatively unconvincing run of form prior to the Hibs game and put Law in his place. We needed more forward momentum and less sideways. I think we need to be positive on Saturday and look for a similar approach to that of the Hibs game. ie. Zelalem on the bench I agree, and you know I don't dislike Zelalem. I think he is tidy, and I think he does move the ball, but he doesn't have the and he doesn't have the tenacity for him to star in this team just now. But that's what he's here to learn, I suppose. He will go back to Arsenal with good experiences anyway, but I don't want to see him start on Saturday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 1,114 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Marky. said: I agree, and you know I don't dislike Zelalem. I think he is tidy, and I think he does move the ball, but he doesn't have the and he doesn't have the tenacity for him to star in this team just now. But that's what he's here to learn, I suppose. He will go back to Arsenal with good experiences anyway, but I don't want to see him start on Saturday. The other main point regards Zelalem is as you point out, he is an Arsenal player. When there is little between players regards selection, I'd tend to play our own players and develop them. I saw enough 'gallus ability' in Thompson to think he is deserving of more gametime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,260 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, buster. said: The other main point regards Zelalem is as you point out, he is an Arsenal player. When there is little between players regards selection, I'd tend to play our own players and develop them. I saw enough 'gallus ability' in Thompson to think he is deserving of more gametime. I think the same way, we should develop our own rather than someone else's so I think there is more to it than this. We obviously want to build bridges with the EPL clubs so that we can demonstrate sending players on loan here is worth their while. So I believe that I'm looking at the big picture with regards to Thompson but the truth is Warburton may well be looking at the even bigger picture for the club rather than just 1 player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,142 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Think Shiels deserves a start, tbh. rather him as deep-lying midfielder than Ball. I'd hope we mibbe have a new signing but wont be holding my breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,765 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'd play: Foderingham Tavernier Kiernan Wilson Wallace Thompson Holt Law Waghorn Miller McKay But I wouldn't be surprised to see either Shiels or Ball start in Halliday's position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,260 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 1 minute ago, STEPPS BOY said: Think Shiels deserves a start, tbh. rather him as deep-lying midfielder than Ball. I'd hope we mibbe have a new signing but wont be holding my breath. Signing Vaulks from Falkirk would be a good move IMO, not just because we are playing them but he is young and talented and I think would fit in well. We'd obviously have the tell him not to do his flips to celebrate as it might be inflammatory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 1,114 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Just now, NeoGeo7 said: I think the same way, we should develop our own rather than someone else's so I think there is more to it than this. We obviously want to build bridges with the EPL clubs so that we can demonstrate sending players on loan here is worth their while. So I believe that I'm looking at the big picture with regards to Thompson but the truth is Warburton may well be looking at the even bigger picture for the club rather than just 1 player. I'd hope that an excellent youth academy should eventually produce enough young players of it's own to make taking young loan players from the EPL unnecessary. Gametime is a fundamental part of developing young players and I just don't see enough benefit coming from Zelalem and previously Oduwa to justify them taking the place of our own players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,142 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: Signing Vaulks from Falkirk would be a good move IMO, not just because we are playing them but he is young and talented and I think would fit in well. We'd obviously have the tell him not to do his flips to celebrate as it might be inflammatory. I'd be surprised if they sold us Vaulks. we wouldn't let Murdoch go there on loan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,260 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Just now, buster. said: I'd hope that an excellent youth academy should eventually produce enough young players of it's own to make taking young loan players from the EPL unnecessary. Gametime is a fundamental part of developing young players and I just don't see enough benefit coming from Zelalem and previously Oduwa to justify them taking the place of our own players. I agree and Warburton talks of having to "give players a pathway to the first team". Yes Thompson has been on the bench but he needs to play at some stage. I don't think our academy will ever be responsible for the first team XI, though I would love it if that were the case, so I think we have to be smart here. Getting young and hungry players from the EPL is a wise move if we don't have money to sign players permanently. If we manage to get back into Europe and start generating capital then perhaps we'll supplement our youths with experienced signings. With Zelalem he has shown flashes (his assist for Waggy at Airdrie stands out for me) but he's not the finished article by a longshot and doesn't offer as much to the team as Holt or Law. I'd like to see Thompson get a start to see what he can do rather than become another Sinnamon like player where his reputation on this forum precedes the player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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