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Personally, I have always preferred a more direct style, and no, that doesn't mean lumping the ball up to a big man, but the football that Laudrup and Gascoigne played was very purposeful. Generally, I like our style of play, I always worry about ending up like Arsenal where the players became scared to shoot for a few years. There is a balance, and we can find it pretty easily.

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Just now, cushynumber said:

agreed  - trying to walk it through everytime is not going to work

Defenders don't need to worry too much about guarding the near post and the six yard line, meaning when we pass it back, there are two people in front of the midfield man thus limiting space to take a shot or to play the through ball, and at best get go wide and repeat the process on either flank.

It's just too predictable and we've got to introduce a bit of danger to their 6 yard area to mix it up and exploit space better.

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5 hours ago, cushynumber said:

It wasn't  - its was coming from McCann and Smith too. Tanner gave them a line and the took it and ran with it.

Gordon Smith was saying we had so muh possession cause Killie were sitting g back allowing us to keep the bll while they parked the bus and hoped to hit s on the counter.  Llike wee Neil as a punit, seems to have a good knowledge of the game.

Love the wzy we now move the ball around and this is the first game we have failed to score, not a bad record.  Still this being RM, there are some who would rather see route 1  balls being lumped up the park.

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Leicester play so fuckin fast from back to front that they are bound to have the least % possession in games. They chase the opposition for 90 mins making them play backwards and hold on to the ball. Leicester don't mess around holding on to the ball and waiting for an opening. When they get the ball they play good football but attack fast and go right for it. Their pace and resulting end product is excellent.

21 shots with 34% possession isn't bad.

Our possession football is a delight sometimes but when we come out of a game without winning there are always questions about our end product not being good enough.

 

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14 hours ago, cushynumber said:

It wasn't  - its was coming from McCann and Smith too. Tanner gave them a line and the took it and ran with it.

Smith and McCann also said it shouldn't have been a red card.

that cunt could have put Tav out of the game for life with that fuckin' assault.

neither McCann nor Smith knew how to foul when they played the game, and anyone who knows how to foul knows that was the foul of a fuckin' hatchet man.

the bastard should have been in the hospital for trying it rather than just off the park.

 

possession is 9 tenths of the law in modern football.

barcelona, bayern, brazil, germany, spain, etc - all the top teams in the world dominate possession.

aye, some teams can win games with less possession but not one of those teams will ever be a top team in the world.

great teams dominate possession.

 

 

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54 minutes ago, baxterboy said:

Smith and McCann also said it shouldn't have been a red card.

that cunt could have put Tav out of the game for life with that fuckin' assault.

neither McCann nor Smith knew how to foul when they played the game, and anyone who knows how to foul knows that was the foul of a fuckin' hatchet man.

the bastard should have been in the hospital for trying it rather than just off the park.

 

possession is 9 tenths of the law in modern football.

barcelona, bayern, brazil, germany, spain, etc - all the top teams in the world dominate possession.

aye, some teams can win games with less possession but not one of those teams will ever be a top team in the world.

great teams dominate possession.

 

 

It was reckless but he was trying to play the ball and his eyes never shifted from the ball, a hatchet man would take a look at where Tav was so he could do a proper job on him. Certainly not a pre-meditated attempt to injure him as you are suggesting, more a not caring about anything but getting the ball. A red card all day long but likely not to have been when Smith and McCann were playing.

Our main issue yesterday was a combination of Waggys loss of form and a decent goalkeeping performance. The save from Halliday was particularly impressive. Posession only gets you so far but better to have the ball than chase it.

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2 hours ago, RFC Eagle said:

It was reckless but he was trying to play the ball and his eyes never shifted from the ball, a hatchet man would take a look at where Tav was so he could do a proper job on him. Certainly not a pre-meditated attempt to injure him as you are suggesting, more a not caring about anything but getting the ball. A red card all day long but likely not to have been when Smith and McCann were playing.

Our main issue yesterday was a combination of Waggys loss of form and a decent goalkeeping performance. The save from Halliday was particularly impressive. Posession only gets you so far but better to have the ball than chase it.

trying to play the ball???

yerr havin' a laugh, eh!

it was premeditated.

he wanted to nail Tav's knee and tried to. the only thing that saved Tav's career was the fact he managed to move his knee in the direction of the impact. if he hadn't done so, and there had been resistance to the impact, Tav's career was over. 

anyone who's played the game knows how to make it appear you're going for the ball when, in fact, the ball is simply a prop to achieve the real intent - to smash Tav's knee.

watch the prick follow through with increasing power and speed at the end of the tackle at 2.56 of the video.

he didn't give a fuck about the ball. 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, baxterboy said:

trying to play the ball???

yerr havin' a laugh, eh!

it was premeditated.

he wanted to nail Tav's knee and tried to. the only thing that saved Tav's career was the fact he managed to move his knee in the direction of the impact. if he hadn't done so, and there had been resistance to the impact, Tav's career was over. 

anyone who's played the game knows how to make it appear you're going for the ball when, in fact, the ball is simply a prop to achieve the real intent - to smash Tav's knee.

watch the prick follow through with increasing power and speed at the end at 2.56 of the video.

he didn't give a fuck about the ball. 

 

 

Played and refereed. Look at where his eyes are. Solely focused on the ball. As I said its a red card, its reckless but its not a deliberate attempt to injure Tav. Try to look at the slow motion closely, the ball is the target and not Tavs knee, he didn't care if he got Tav as well and should know better than to go for the ball with his studs. He so didn't 'give a fuck' about the ball that he made contact with it first!!! Are you sure you played football or are you just making things up to suit your view? If he was really trying to deliberately injure Tav he would have gone just over the ball then put his hands up to apologise.

The bottom line is it was a red card and the right decision from the ref on advice from the linesman.

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10 minutes ago, RFC Eagle said:

Played and refereed. Look at where his eyes are. Solely focused on the ball. As I said its a red card, its reckless but its not a deliberate attempt to injure Tav. Try to look at the slow motion closely, the ball is the target and not Tavs knee, he didn't care if he got Tav as well and should know better than to go for the ball with his studs. He so didn't 'give a fuck' about the ball that he made contact with it first!!! Are you sure you played football or are you just making things up to suit your view? If he was really trying to deliberately injure Tav he would have gone just over the ball then put his hands up to apologise.

The bottom line is it was a red card and the right decision from the ref on advice from the linesman.

oh, ok, you were a referee - that explains it.

lol

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19 minutes ago, baxterboy said:

oh, ok, you were a referee - that explains it.

lol

You obviously have no clue if thats the limit of your argument. You do realise that the best way to deliberately end a players career is to connect with his standing foot.

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22 minutes ago, RFC Eagle said:

 You do realise that the best way to deliberately end a players career is to connect with his standing foot.

... emmm... that would be one example of 'resistance' i spoke of, would it not?

another example of resistance would have occurred if Tav had moved his knee in the opposite direction - which could also have ended his career

and you do realize most players who've played the game generally accept a ref's decision, knowing fine well they're  aw a wee bit thick when it comes to anything other than the obvious. 

so, ref, it's ok.

you're right, really you're right.

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Leicester I believe have had less possession of the ball in every game they've played this season (in the premiership anyway), sometimes as low as the mid 30's.  The reason for this is that they like to play a compact game and  have lightening forwards to draw teams in and hit on the counter and get behind teams defences, which has been effective to say the least.  They actually give possession to the other team for this purpose and are very effective, again I believe having the highest conversion rate per chances.

Now here is the difference with us - if we played that way

1. the team and management would get pelters in this division

2. most teams try to play that way against us so the games would resemble italian football from the 80's - boring as fuck, almost like a game of chess.

What was encouraging from yesterday was the corners - they were actual corners and forrester looks like he puts a good ball in.

Slightly off topic but is that not 4 clean sheets in a row - I can see slight tweeks being made to maybe try to sit back a bit and pick our moments which is I think the reason for this - less exposed at the back.  Think this is in preparation for next season

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13 minutes ago, baxterboy said:

... emmm... that would be one example of 'resistance' i spoke of, would it not?

another example of resistance would have occurred if Tav had moved his knee in the opposite direction - which could also have ended his career

and you do realize most players who've played the game generally accept a ref's decision, knowing fine well they're  aw a wee bit thick when it comes to anything other than the obvious. 

so, ref, it's ok.

you're right, really you're right.

Players are generally pretty thick thats very true. Very very few really have a clue about much. There are a few notable exceptions but you obviously aren't one of them so best avoid the points that undermine your assertion.

Theres a difference between intent and recklessness which appears beyond your comprehension. 

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13 minutes ago, RFC Eagle said:

Players are generally pretty thick thats very true. Very very few really have a clue about much. There are a few notable exceptions but you obviously aren't one of them so best avoid the points that undermine your assertion.

Theres a difference between intent and recklessness which appears beyond your comprehension. 

aye, ok ref, i've told you you were right.

what more do you want?

and put that fuckin' yellow card away!

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