Big Al 55 9,241 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, The Covenanter said: Just back from Ibrox. I say YES. How did it go Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Covenanter 57 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, Big Al II said: How did it go I thought it went well. On the panel ( there were more than this but i can't remember everyone) Greg Marshall, Brian Donohoe, James Blair from Rangers First and Chris Graham from RST. The main aims going forward was having greater financial fan power in term of shares and potential assets (if the members vote for it) as well as a bigger voice politically if we needed to address issues. It was stressed that eveything is one vote per member and you would be electing board members according to who/what you wanted to see. Quite a few dissenting voices, mainly over the pervieved lack of communication about the two meetings and where would existing fans cash go. Assurances were given about the cash and more marketing/communications going forward. It wa stressed that this is a framework proposal and that they could not answer specific questions unless 1) the new group was formered 2) people voted in board members and 3) voted for said proposals etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace 3,556 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Apologies, could admin please remove my vote as I voted before I realised this is a closed vote Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,057 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I'm saying No just now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosmhdo 1,879 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 So questions can't be answered til all the players are in position and their places at the table are assured ? Who'd have thought it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Covenanter 57 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, eosmhdo said: So questions can't be answered til all the players are in position and their places at the table are assured ? Who'd have thought it ? Essentially yes. The members need to vote in the board and also vote on proposals on a one member one vote basis. From my understanding, there would be nothing stopping you or i being a 'player at the table' if enough people voted for it. Even then proposals such as shares or buying assets would need to voted by all members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 This is what put a lot of us off "Rangers First" from the start. We were assured that this would not happen. Just shows what a group of liars they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 8,084 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Voted before reading Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 So vote for us. Why? We can't tell you that until you vote for us. seriously it's like a Monty Phython sketch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogzy 31,195 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 22 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So vote for us. Why? We can't tell you that until you vote for us. seriously it's like a Monty Phython sketch. has a bit of the old SNP "everything will sort itself out in the next 18 months, just vote yes" tactic about it IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Just now, gogzy said: has a bit of the old SNP "everything will sort itself out in the next 18 months, just vote yes" tactic about it IMO. Was actually coming round to the idea once a few tweaks has been made before an actual vote. But how anyone can vote for it as it stands I don't know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbr 364 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 12 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: Was actually coming round to the idea once a few tweaks has been made before an actual vote. But how anyone can vote for it as it stands I don't know. They want us to vote on trust , given previous standards that some have worked to , this is a major ask , I take it that by voting yes does not lead to anything final , as they have stated its only the start of the proposals really Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, rbr said: They want us to vote on trust , given previous standards that some have worked to , this is a major ask , I take it that by voting yes does not lead to anything final , as they have stated its only the start of the proposals really This is the bit I don't get, why vote again until we have a fully consulted and final proposal on the table. Its more like vote yes then vote yes again by the time the fourth or fifth vote comes along folk will just vote yes. I have no trust left in me for Fan Chiefs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamibianBear 1,851 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Does calling it a Unification (thread title) mean that you can get away with not calling it a Merger? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 "We want a voice but we dont really have a clue what we want to say" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 17 hours ago, eosmhdo said: So questions can't be answered til all the players are in position and their places at the table are assured ? Who'd have thought it ? Who are the people organizing this, the SNP? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 A No for me just now mate, it smells......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH 270 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I voted in error. Apologies Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmcf 34,090 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Can't help but feel we should be able to make this work and we'd be stronger united. Edit. Just realised I hadn't actually said , so it's a yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Big Al is no doubt waiting till all the results are in, so I'll do an unofficial mid-election analysis: Total number of votes: 83 Invalid votes - 68 !!!!! Valid votes: 15 Valid Yes votes: 6 Valid No votes: 9 Membears still to vote: 35 Non-membears still to vote - hundreds no doubt! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,241 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 43 minutes ago, govanblue said: Big Al is no doubt waiting till all the results are in, so I'll do an unofficial mid-election analysis: Total number of votes: 83 Invalid votes - 68 !!!!! Valid votes: 15 Valid Yes votes: 6 Valid No votes: 9 Membears still to vote: 35 Non-membears still to vote - hundreds no doubt! Much appreciated Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisleyroad 894 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 voted Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,241 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Bump Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Rd 2,860 Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Bump.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,241 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Couple of more days to vote...I've made my mind up and whilst a unified fans group is the way forward this has obviously been cobbled together on the back of a relatively successful RF launch with very little thought, requiring a healthy dose of faith (something I lack) Together with the fact the current board are apparently now entirely trustworthy and completely beyond reproach is a serious worry for the future of this new group. A fans group should be a voice of reason with the earshot of the board with the power to influence decisions...not a bunch of yes men. Such a shame. It will be voted through unanimously I sincerely hope ultimately they get it right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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