BEE 4,880 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Was at game and surprised to not see anything on him, he offers nothing defensively - he got ripped to pieces off Obadeyi vs Killie and I think this is going to be a common occurance. Of course he's been outstanding going forward, but needs to work on his defending. Did we miss a player in Wabara? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueretro 704 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, BEE said: Was at game and surprised to not see anything on him, he offers nothing defensively - he got ripped to pieces off Obadeyi vs Killie and I think this is going to be a common occurance. Of course he's been outstanding going forward, but needs to work on his defending. Did we miss a player in Wabara? If you read through the match thread you'll find he did get criticised for his defensive performance tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 minute ago, blueretro said: If you read through the match thread you'll find he did get criticised for his defensive performance tonight. Well there's the flaw in your argument there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,607 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Nope Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWhiteBlue1872 407 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Decent going forward but havent seen a lot defensively from him. Far far too many misplaced passes every game as well. Can maybe understand why he didnt hold down a regular slot at most of his clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 There's already a thread with people slagging him. No need for another one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 I don't mind him not being like Davie Weir in the tackle, but at the end of the day he's still a defender - if he can't make any attempt at going for the ball then he shouldn't be there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast 9,197 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 If these guys were the complete package, they wouldn't be signing for us in the Scottish 2nd tier. Tav like many others has potential if he can improve his defending he'll be a hell of a player Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, BEE said: Well there's the flaw in your argument there. Maybe if you stopped going to the matches you would be able to read the match thread? Exactly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueretro 704 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Warburton needs to take some sort of blame for that as well, why change it ? Tavernier was absolutely honking in that second half, ball Wilson and kiernan rank rotten at all 3 goals as well, get it fucking sorted Rangers One comment randomly picked from the match thread. There's lots more Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, ThatNightInFlorence said: There's already a thread with people slagging him. No need for another one. Is this match thread? If so rarely read it - was at the game so why would I want to review the opinions of people who (in the main) watched a stream of a video camera from the touchline? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Just now, BEE said: Is this match thread? If so rarely read it - was at the game so why would I want to review the opinions of people who (in the main) watched a stream of a video camera from the touchline? Nope it's labelled "right back". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 minute ago, BEE said: Is this match thread? If so rarely read it - was at the game so why would I want to review the opinions of people who (in the main) watched a stream of a video camera from the touchline? There is the link actually mate. I was was at the game too, doesn't make you special. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, ThatNightInFlorence said: There is the link actually mate. I was was at the game too, doesn't make you special. Tav doesn't play right back so does it make me special that I realise that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 How much have you actually watched Wabara this season? Or is it just another example where we pluck a name out of thin air and just assume they are better? If so, do we miss McAusland or Sinnamon? Tav is not a naturally defensive player but, for those who haven't noticed, we don't play with defensive fullbacks and offensively, his predominant role in how we play, he has been immense for us. A revelation. He has come on in recent months defensively though, but we are happier defining our team and players off of just 90 minutes every week rather than looking at the whole picture. People want perfection. Good luck with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueretro 704 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, BEE said: Tav doesn't play right back so does it make me special that I realise that? Are you pished? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,409 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 He can't defend, end of. Why do you think they kept pumping balls out to their left wing? That is by no means because of his howlin defensive display tonight. He just can't defend. And if you look closely at his displays over the past 3/4 of the season you'll wonder what he's actually bringing. His crosses are terrible. Scored some goals early on and might do again but he's not the man we need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, blueretro said: Are you pished? Yes but he plays wing back in our team, that's just fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Moody Blue Legend said: He can't defend, end of. Why do you think they kept pumping balls out to their left wing? That is by no means because of his howlin defensive display tonight. He just can't defend. And if you look closely at his displays over the past 3/4 of the season you'll wonder what he's actually bringing. His crosses are terrible. Scored some goals early on and might do again but he's not the man we need. How many assists have we had from him? Including one tonight and a goal which was wrongly ruled offside? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueretro 704 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, BEE said: Yes but he plays wing back in our team, that's just fact. Me too and I wasn't at the game. So it's probably not a good idea to have a "discussion" about this just now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,409 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, ThatNightInFlorence said: How many assists have we had from him? Including one tonight and a goal which was wrongly ruled offside? I said he can't defend. He's a defender. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoatbridgeBear 7,113 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Been brutal for ages now, and we have no other right back so he has a free ride. Same as we never signed another striker in case anything happened to Waggy & now look. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNightInFlorence 696 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Just now, Moody Blue Legend said: I said he can't defend. He's a defender. You said you wonder what he's bringing to the team, I said his assists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, AlBear85 said: How much have you actually watched Wabara this season? Or is just another example where we pluck a name out of thin air and just assume they are better? If so, do we miss McAusland or Sinnamon? Tav is not a naturally defensive player but, for those who haven't noticed, we don't play with defensive fullbacks and offensively, his predominant role in how we play, he has been immense for us. A revelation. He has come on in recent months defensively though, but we are happier defining our team and players off of just 90 minutes every week rather than looking at the whole picture. People want perfection. Good luck with that. Not seen much of Wabara admittedly but just using that as a contrast. I've clearly not based it on 90 mins as I've quoted another game in my OP. I disagree that he's came on defensively, he looks terrified to put in a tackle - when he does he either makes a foul or the player skips past. Vs Obadeyi (who is an SPL jobber) he got the cunt tore out him and I can only rememeber him winning the ball once out the 7/8 times per game Obadeyi took him on. I don't expect perfection, but I expect a guy playing in defence to be able to make a tackle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue Legend 61,409 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, ThatNightInFlorence said: You said you wonder what he's bringing to the team, I said his assists. Look mate, I assist the wife on getting her hole every now and again but I'm still howlin! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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