'Wings Over Scotland' on the cup final chaos.

[THE_Ibrox_Preacher 2,812]

While I don't normally have reason nor desire to check up on what they are churning out I think it's important to shed further light on the narrative being spun regarding the Scottish Cup Final chaos, especially considering the climate in the last decade inparticular.

To save anyone else within our fanbase having to give their site numbers a 'hit' I have took that hit for all of us and have copy and pasted the "article" here to highlight what we are up against (as if we were not already aware).

 

"Statements of the obvious

Posted on May 23, 2016 by Rev. Stuart Campbell

So a few things need said about the events of the weekend.

1. Hibs fans had no business invading the pitch. They’d waited 114 years to win the cup, but in those 114 years no other club’s fans had felt the need to take to the Hampden turf when they won, other than (as far as we can tell) in three incidents, all involving Celtic and Rangers.

In 1909 the Scottish Cup was actually not won by anyone – after two draws between the Old Firm the crowd invaded the pitch and rioted (allegedly suspecting a fix to increase revenue from having more replays), and no second replay was ever held.

In 1965 a Celtic victory over Rangers in the League Cup final ended like this:

And most recently, another Celtic win over Rangers in 1980 sparked an infamous riot:

The incident led to the banning of alcohol from all Scottish football matches, which the Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy recently tried unsuccessfully to overturn, backed by then-deputy Kezia Dugdale.

(We can only imagine the scenes yesterday had everyone been tanked up on a few half-time pints. Scottish Labour have declined to comment, understandably.)

Every precedent of fans invading the Hampden pitch has ended in violent disorder and it was always bound to do so again, particularly with the other end being occupied by fans of the new “Rangers”, people who have never reacted well to opposing supporters celebrating on the turf.

Whatever else happened, had Hibs fans stayed in their seats at the final whistle they could have celebrated, their players could have enjoyed their moment on the field, and all anyone would be talking about would be football.

2. Some Hibs fans actively provoked trouble. There are countless examples in football and other sports of exuberant fans invading the pitch after a victory and causing no harm – including most of the playoffs this month in the English leagues – but while the vast majority of Hibs fans appeared to be simply overcome with joy, a significant minority went up to the other end and goaded the “Rangers” support.

Smashing up the goals and ripping up the turf are also violent, provocative acts that can’t be brushed away as “high spirits”.

3. Some Hibs fans definitely attacked “Rangers” players. Despite conflicting rumours and counter-rumours (“Rangers” striker Kenny Miller was at one point said to have been knocked out cold in the centre circle, but his wife later tweeted that nobody had touched him), we’ve seen with our own eyes conclusive footage of attacks on Lee Wallace and goalkeeper Wes Foderingham.

Neither was particularly serious in terms of physical harm, but were also a step beyond mere jostling (still unacceptable in itself) and must have been extremely frightening in the circumstances. Anyone identified must be banned from all Scottish football grounds for life, in addition to prosecution. There can be zero tolerance for assaulting opposing players in any circumstances.

4. “Rangers” fans had no business on the pitch either. They were provoked, but nobody has to react to provocation. They could have walked away, retaining the moral high ground and leaving Hibs alone to bear responsibility and punishment.

Instead, thousands of them struck up another chorus of sectarian anthem “The Billy Boys” (which had also been sung during the match) and hundreds took the excuse to enter the field seeking violent confrontation.

Dealing with a pitch invasion is the police’s job, not vigilante ned mobs who did much to wind up and antagonise the Hibs fans in the first place.

Oh, and the lack of self-awareness it takes to set up a petition demanding Hibs be banned from European competition, just a few years after the same “Rangers” supporters smashed up the city of Manchester before and after losing the UEFA Cup final, is quite breathtaking.

5. All “Rangers” fans are responsible for sectarian singing. The notion that only a tiny minority participate in songs about wading “up to the knees in Fenian blood” is a farcical lie, proven countless times by incontrovertible video evidence, often filmed by the club’s own supporters and tweeted or uploaded in unrepentant triumphalism.

If, as is continually protested, there exists a “decent majority” of fans at Ibrox, they have the solution within their hands. Don’t join in. Boo down the songs when they start, which involves no individual confrontation. Make them socially unacceptable.“It’s nothing to do with us” is no longer an excuse. If you’re the majority, prove it.

The Tartan Army had a terrible reputation for drunken, boorish hooliganism, but then it took responsibility for policing itself and is now loved across the world. You don’t everget to play the injured innocents if you’ve been singing about wading in people’s blood because they’re a different religion to you. Those are the rules.

6. The club itself is also culpable. Extraordinary official press releases like the one put out on Sunday afternoon, almost certainly penned by the demented former Daily Record hack turned PR man Jim Traynor and blaming everyone from Nicola Sturgeon down while totally exonerating “Rangers” fans, fuel the persecution and victimhood complex of the more loathsome elements of the support, storing up toxic resentment and hatred – not least with the use of religiously-charged words like “parish”.

The singling out of individual journalists for vilification puts their safety at risk and is as criminally irresponsible as the claims that “Rangers” fans only invaded the pitch to“protect” their players are laughably insane. Whoever wrote and approved the release should also face police investigation for inciting violence.

7. The Scottish football authorities’ cowardice is another factor. For decades they’ve failed to take the only meaningful action that might deter sectarian singing – the deduction of points – out of fear of the reaction (or worse).

They’ve also cravenly bowed to pressure from the “Rangers” support over the events surrounding the liquidation of the original Rangers and its replacement with a new club, something else which has only fuelled the fans’ unjustified and poisonous sense of bitterness, grievance and injustice.

8. The same goes for the Scottish media. We can’t help but be reminded of the parable of the frog and the scorpion. Four years of craven appeasement have brought the succulent lamb brigade no gratitude. For as long as the press are too terrified of the financial or physical consequences of standing up to the bullying of the club’s thug fans, they’ll create an angry dog which will turn round and bite them.

The Daily Record’s pious condemnation of the violence even as it gleefully stokes the hatred with atrocious ultra-partisan regular “fan blogger” columns and lurid, unsourced incendiary allegations is as hypocritical and cynical as it is reckless.

9. The police handled the situation extremely well. A few hundred police and stewards can’t possibly stop 10,000+ fans getting onto a pitch if they really want to. There was no reason to expect a pitch invasion (see 1), and when it happened it was dealt with in a careful manner that didn’t make things worse. There appear to have been no serious injuries and a more heavy-handed approach could have been bloody.

Anyone can be wise after the event and demand a heavier presence, and we suspect future finals for some time will see more visible police lines in front of the stands as the final whistle approaches, but nobody wants fences back or thousands of cops in the ground at showpiece occasions.

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A thrilling football match on Saturday that was a credit to the Scottish game (it’s been all but forgotten that both teams contesting the final were from the lower divisions – possibly the first time, and certainly the first in the modern era, that such a thing has ever happened) has since been overshadowed by utter idiocy on the part of just about everyone involved – supporters, clubs and media.

The extent of the disorder has been massively exaggerated to suit various agendas, but nobody comes out with any credit, although Hibs (in refusing to be drawn into the shouting match since the immediate aftermath, in sharp contrast to several hysterical, swivel-eyed and borderline threatening press statements from “Rangers”) and Kenny Miller have conducted themselves with the most dignity.

As ever, what the events tell us encompasses far more than football, revealing truths about Scottish society, culture and politics that are often unpalatable. Imbeciles like Tory MSPs Adam Tomkins and Murdo Fraser, at least one of whom should know better, in stoking up the fires of bigotry with inflammatory language, bear as much responsibility in the long run as the idiots who ran onto the pitch.

(Both, of course, are pontificating sanctimoniously about it regardless.)

We wait, entirely without bated breath, to see if any lessons are learned."

[Essandoh 21,194]

"Rangers" at every opportunity.

Sad, cretinous, hurting, deluded, dangerous cunt.

[THE_Ibrox_Preacher 2,812]

38 minutes ago, Essandoh said:

"Rangers" at every opportunity.

Sad, cretinous, hurting, deluded, dangerous cunt.

Positively a masterclass in apologetics and in what I believe they call 'victim shaming' these days among the P.C. ranks by this "journalist/blogger".

Rangers-hating masquerading as reasonable acknowledgement of goings-on with regards to the cup final carnage.

[Bris Koyd 50]

A prick who proves himself to be a prick on each and every possible occasion. These people know that the term "fenian" does not mean catholic but the truth doesn't suit their hateful agenda.

[TheTavernierDevil 23]

So tweeting rangers 5 them 4 makes you as guilty in the long run as those junky fans on the park on Saturday?? We really are living in a shithole of a country. To even have the balls to think that never mind print it says everything you need to know about the mentality of these deluded arseholes.

[Hugh Jarse 3]

Check her Wikipedia out. She is a self confessed Hibernian supporter. How can this rhat be impartial...

It's simple really, anyone who defends Rangers or is pro Union openly will never get a job in the Scottish media. That's why it's always the same regurgitated drivel no matter who's mouth speaks it or hand types it. They're all Leftie liberal brainwashed commies. We as a people cannot sit idly by and let these people gain more and more traction or to keep spreading their lies. Because if you keep telling the same lie long enough and often enough then it will manifest an morph to become what is perceived as truth in the mind of the unaware. This lot are very dangerous people indeed.

[The Tavernator 279]

Who the hell is Kezia Dugface? Wouldn't take the sad bitch for a walk.

[Thewhitesettler 2,711]

Well that's a right impartial load of shite.

I had to stop reading just in case the guy started blaming us for everything that's gone wrong in the world.

 

[heathen fish boy 8,574]

Spooky similarities there, just saying 

[RFC Eagle 4,888]

Hes video game geek who lives in Somerset and is no more a 'reverend' than I am. Yet another Yesser who lives outside Scotland. Really not worth taking seriously his 'opinions' are irrelevant.

[Dazzler 2,428]

The "author" must have went to the same "school" as Comical Ali Petrie.

What a complete load of pish! So singing the Billy Boys justifies  assaulting football players or justification for invading the pitch?

You could go through every paragraph and rip it to shreds, what a monumental tool.

[THE_Ibrox_Preacher 2,812]

1 hour ago, RFC Eagle said:

Hes video game geek who lives in Somerset and is no more a 'reverend' than I am. Yet another Yesser who lives outside Scotland. Really not worth taking seriously his 'opinions' are irrelevant.

Not so long ago that site and he himself were held in high regard by the 'Yes' campaign and by several people in the media in this country although there is by their own admission equally a number on the record condemning them/him.

[RFC Eagle 4,888]

2 minutes ago, THE_Ibrox_Preacher said:

Not so long ago that site and he himself were held in high regard by the 'Yes' campaign and by several people in the media in this country although there is by their own admission equally a number on the record condemning them/him.

He blotted his copybook with his statement about Hillsborough. I think he is rapidly becoming persona non grata with his obvious inability to rationalise events. They are distancing themselves from him so this could be a desperate bid for redemption aimed at hus usual audience.

[denya 1,661]

More like 'Wings over Bullshit'. I couldn't bare reading the full article it was that biased and full of crap. 

[gmcf 34,093]

Got bored with it. 

[THE_Ibrox_Preacher 2,812]

1 minute ago, RFC Eagle said:

He blotted his copybook with his statement about Hillsborough. I think he is rapidly becoming persona non grata with his obvious inability to rationalise events. They are distancing themselves from him so this could be a desperate bid for redemption aimed at hus usual audience.

As you rightly allude to any right-minded person or group would distance themselves and even condemn the site and him for the views expressed however this is merely one example of Scotland's "New media" pushing/furthering Scottish Independence and in turn I think it wise that we're all aware with regards to exactly what views these groups/individuals hold.

[plumbGER 24,518]

The hillsborough carry on and the tweet about enjoying watching 9/11 unfold have discredited that prick for life.

 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

More lies from a lying prick of the highest order. 

[chris182 6,279]

WOS are a total waste of oxygen

[RFC55 108,733]

That's more about us and things that have fuck all to do with Saturday

[HG5 11,082]

Interesting wee dig about the Club inciting violence by naming names.

The clear message there is that they can print, spout whatever they want, but we have no right of reply & must just sit there & take it, while they pile on the untruths, without any check or balance.

Nice....

[TEFTONG 60,075]

Singing bad songs...caused the beasts from the east to attack Rangers players??..hmmmmm..that was one obvious piece of deluded propaganda.  Where do these cunts come from..is it all the fault of the apartheid schooling.?

Or is there a factory churning these bitter no marks out.? One in the same thing I suppose...

[Gillete 1,338]

Stopped reading at new Rangers 

[sandyinroyalblue 16,478]

He needs to be sectioned.

[Negri's lovechild 13,862]

You're all wrong guys. The statement we put out was read by hibs fans who then got in touch with doc brown,nicked his delorean,went back to saturday and started the riot and assaulted players. 

In turn,that statement on sunday by the club incited all that shite. All our fault! And dont forget the big bad billy boys,the song that turns right minded peaceful people into rabid violent junkie fucks!