Gaz52 11,837 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Is it because he played in Scotland with us? Did Hoddle not want to give him a second look because the league he was playing in? I was a young boy at the time so I don't remember the season, but wiki says Gazza didn't have the best season, was this Hoddle's reasoning for not picking him? Crazy to think you'd leave a guy of that quality out of a World Cup squad, even if he did have an iffy season, he was still world class. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBufalo20 7,887 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 No cos was a regular and played Euro 96 when was with us. He was in the provisional squad then dropped for the final 22. England had Scholes and Beckham coming through so just think Hoddle didn't fancy him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Gaz52 said: Is it because he played in Scotland with us? Did Hoddle not want to give him a second look because the league he was playing in? I was a young boy at the time so I don't remember the season, but wiki says Gazza didn't have the best season, was this Hoddle's reasoning for not picking him? Crazy to think you'd leave a guy of that quality out of a World Cup squad, even if he did have an iffy season, he was still world class. He was badly out of shape. Missed a lot of games for us, if I remember correctly he came back and played one or two then was sold. He didn't play in scotland by the time the World Cup came around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I think he was with Middlesborough at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Ah right. I've got my years mixed up then, I thought he was with us the whole 97-98 season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Gaz52 said: Is it because he played in Scotland with us? Did Hoddle not want to give him a second look because the league he was playing in? I was a young boy at the time so I don't remember the season, but wiki says Gazza didn't have the best season, was this Hoddle's reasoning for not picking him? Crazy to think you'd leave a guy of that quality out of a World Cup squad, even if he did have an iffy season, he was still world class. He was moved on during the season because of the incident with his missus at Gleneagles. I think Hoddle thought long & hard about leaving him out, although a night out with Chris Evans before the final cut may have been the last straw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsa 3,906 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Venables built the team around him but Hoddle had ince and Batty at CM wiyh Scholes I think. I don't think Beckham started the 1st two games. He def should've went even as a squad player. He could've used the first two weeks to get fit and would've made an impact against Argentina. Certainly would've made a better job of the pens than ince and batty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackunion 536 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hoddle used him as a means of stamping his authority. Hoddle was an ego maniac and couldn't have someone with big personality like gazza out shining him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 minute ago, jackunion said: Hoddle used him as a means of stamping his authority That went well.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,185 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Hoddle always spoke with respect of Gazza. Maybe just recognized there were better team players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,925 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Glenn Hoddle is a maniac. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davis1986 996 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I remember the week before the squad was announced he was pictured drunk and eating a kebab in front Pages of paper After that there was an out cry for him not too be in squad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Decent summation in the Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/gazza-left-out-of-the-world-cup-1162234.html Basically unfit and under performing were the reasons given. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helicopter Sundae 5,976 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Did they not go to training camp and Gazza and Hoddle had a row, which exploded into a full-on meltdown from Gazza, who then left? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred H Crawford 1,182 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, HG5 said: He was moved on during the season because of the incident with his missus at Gleneagles. I think Hoddle thought long & hard about leaving him out, although a night out with Chris Evans before the final cut may have been the last straw. The incident with his wife happened the season before , was just about the time he was sent off away to Ajax in the CL . Murray saw the chance to get most of his cash back from middlesbrough and gambled that we would still win 10 without him . On his day he could still be top class but Hoddle preferred to play safe and one kebab and night out with chris evans & danny baker too much gave him the ideal get out without admitting he didn't know how to handle gazza . His performance against italy to clinch the place in France was probably his last great game . Privileged to see him ( and Laudrup ) in a Rangers team , Happy days . The fact Hoddle was a bit of a religious nutter with some warped views on life wouldn't have helped . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammy. Watp. 492 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 -Early 30s -hadn't been at his best in the 10iar season -injury problems -alcohol and off the field issues becoming more of an issue -a lot of good midfielders coming through -why am i posting using dashes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,595 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 He was injured a lot that season and there was some story in the News of the World with him drunk and eating kebabs. He probably spent a lot of his career that way but Hoddle was an uber-professional and went for other players who fitted that mould more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred H Crawford 1,182 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, DrLaudrup said: He was injured a lot that season and there was some story in the News of the World with him drunk and eating kebabs. He probably spent a lot of his career that way but Hoddle was an uber-professional and went for other players who fitted that mould more. Paul Merson tells a story about the "faith healer" that Hoddle employed for england , Eileen Drewery . Seemingly Ray Parlour went into see her and she put her hands on his head and asked him how she could help and he asked for a short back and sides . Hoddle never picked him in his squad again . Can see from that how Gazza would've been out of place . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Living Gazza's lifestyle, it is amazing he managed to play top level until his 30's. He was the last an era, a world class player who isn't uber professional with regards to lifestyle. You simply won't get guys like that in the modern game - it's too athletic and well drilled now to allow slackers with talent to excel. However as others have said, he was overweight, out of form, and out of favour. That period marked the beginning of the end for Gazza, and the path he eventually went down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JockyWilsonspants 80 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 36 minutes ago, Badger said: Living Gazza's lifestyle, it is amazing he managed to play top level until his 30's. He was the last an era, a world class player who isn't uber professional with regards to lifestyle. You simply won't get guys like that in the modern game - it's too athletic and well drilled now to allow slackers with talent to excel.However as others have said, he was overweight, out of form, and out of favour. That period marked the beginning of the end for Gazza, and the path he eventually went down. Yeah, I dont agree with those slating Hoddle over the decision. At the time I was disappointed and wished he'd been picked. But looking back on it it was a marginal call from the England manager. With the players at Hoddles disposal, and Gazza quickly going downhill, Hoddle probably made the correct call. If it wasn't the correct call it certainly wasn't a travesty or a disgrace Gazza was left out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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