Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,439 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Aye good on him. He is spot on when he said we should be treated the same as everyone else when at the moment we aren't. No surprise there was basically no comment on Hibs asking for the wellbeing of the staff and players. Classless fucks This club1872 has to work. Am personally sick of the infighting within the support when the real fight should be taken to police Scotland, the media, the government and everyone who tries to paint it to be the big bad Rangers fault again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Koyd 50 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He's now backtracking from defending the fans who protected the players and staff, saying he'll ban anyone who went onto the pitch. We need to be consistent and not back down. Bears were NOT to blame for the events on Saturday and blaming fans who defended the players, staff and fans is not going to stop them from victimising us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Bris Koyd said: He's now backtracking from defending the fans who protected the players and staff, saying he'll ban anyone who went onto the pitch. We need to be consistent and not back down. Bears were NOT to blame for the events on Saturday and blaming fans who defended the players, staff and fans is not going to stop them from victimising us. where does he say that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLaudrup 4,605 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 For all the nasty stuff in the last few days from other teams, there is an example of how to give a measured, dignified statement. I like that he immediately congratulated Hibs too which is Rangers class, before setting out a between the lines message of we will not be messed around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Koyd 50 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, cushynumber said: where does he say that ? From the Rhebel http://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/rangers-chief-stewart-robertson-says-8055881 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Bris Koyd said: From the Rhebel http://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/rangers-chief-stewart-robertson-says-8055881 He doesn't say ban at all. "We don't condone violence and we will wait to see what comes out of the investigations. We will deal with any Rangers fans in the appropriate manner. "But we have to remember is was the Hibs fans who came over the wall. It was the Hibs' fans who ran over the half-way line towards the Rangers fans. They provoked, they goaded, they taunted. "In no shape or form do we condone any fan who came onto the pitch. "But I don't think we can get away from the fact that it was Hibs fans who came onto the park and provoked them." The jouno says "ban" in the headline and then in the lead up - but the word never ever comes from our guys mouth in the article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 No the Rhebel has exaggerated what he said (again), he said he will take appropriate action against any Rangers fan who came onto the pitch and under the circumstances (as he was actually still defending our fans because of the situation) this does not necessary mean any of our fans would be banned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Koyd 50 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, cushynumber said: He doesn't say ban at all. "We don't condone violence and we will wait to see what comes out of the investigations. We will deal with any Rangers fans in the appropriate manner. "But we have to remember is was the Hibs fans who came over the wall. It was the Hibs' fans who ran over the half-way line towards the Rangers fans. They provoked, they goaded, they taunted. "In no shape or form do we condone any fan who came onto the pitch. "But I don't think we can get away from the fact that it was Hibs fans who came onto the park and provoked them." The jouno says "ban" in the headline and then in the lead up - but the word never ever comes from our guys mouth in the article. Fair enough but "not condoning" fans who came onto the pitch is backtracking from the statement on Sunday and not what we need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Bris Koyd said: Fair enough but "not condoning" fans who came onto the pitch is backtracking from the statement on Sunday and not what we need. I think your reading too much into it. I dont see a great difference - maybe in the tone of both pieces there is as the first statement the club released is very angry - but the general points being made are identical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bris Koyd said: Fair enough but "not condoning" fans who came onto the pitch is backtracking from the statement on Sunday and not what we need. Need to disagree with you as on the original statement by the club they didn't support or condone the fans, they've stated as has been stated earlier that our fans reacted due to provocation. You need to be sensible in these matters, in no way can the club be seen to be condoning our fans who came onto the pitch as that would be turned against us, his interview is measured and clearly places the blame at the hands of the HIbs supporters whilst acknowledging that the club has to be seen to be taking action (probably through clenched teeth). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue 64 613 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 This is an interview from our MD on Rangers TV and we are getting links posted to the rhebels version of it, c&p or don't mention them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,601 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 We needed a stronger statement, i feel he should have also mentioned the punishment handed to Hibs for their actions. It seems no one even Rangers can mention this was all Hibs fault. He should have also mentioned Rangers Fans safety as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Smile said: We needed a stronger statement, i feel he should have also mentioned the punishment handed to Hibs for their actions. It seems no one even Rangers can mention this was all Hibs fault. He should have also mentioned Rangers Fans safety as well. Err he did, “We would like to think the punishments that are meted out are wholly appropriate for the horrendous scenes that we all saw, and that they are very robust.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,601 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: Err he did, “We would like to think the punishments that are meted out are wholly appropriate for the horrendous scenes that we all saw, and that they are very robust.” He should have said by the Hibs supporters, he should have also mentioned Petrie and his role at the Sfa. its like we can't really mention who actually caused all this the media are the same. I just don't think its hard hitting enough, Plus i also think it should have been done by our Chairman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, Smile said: He should have said by the Hibs supporters, he should have also mentioned Petrie and his role at the Sfa. its like we can't really mention who actually caused all this the media are the same. I think if you actually read or listen to the full article it is quite clear who he is talking about, "It was Hibs fans who came over the wall, it was HIbs fans who attacked our players and staff, it was Hibs fans who goaded our support" Obviously not a proper quotation but near enough to what he actually said, not sure how much clearer he could have made it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,601 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: I think if you actually read or listen to the full article it is quite clear who he is talking about, "It was Hibs fans who came over the wall, it was HIbs fans who attacked our players and staff, it was Hibs fans who goaded our support" Obviously not a proper quotation but near enough to what he actually said, not sure how much clearer he could have made it. I was at the game i don't need to read statements or watch videos, I don't also need to be told who attacked who and what happened on the internet .This video interview in my opinions not strong enough. its not a crap interview but to me it's just a bit weak, in the areas i posted above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jb85 1,783 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He speaks very well can't fault anything he's said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just now, Smile said: I was at the game i don't need to read statements or watch videos, I don't also need to be told who attacked who and what happened on the internet .This video interview in my opinions not strong enough. You've just contradicted yourself, first you say it should have been a stronger statement and that it should have mentioned that it was by Hibs fans etc and now you've just came out with what I've quoted? You can't have it both ways and lets be honest here if don't get updates and statements where possible from the club the responses from our own fans would be even worse as every so often the situation that happened needs to be highlighted again until full justice is served to the HIbs fans and club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 in fairness no Bears were fighting protecting our players and staff and using necessary force to do so is completely acceptable and stopped a terrible situation getting worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,778 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 40 minutes ago, Bris Koyd said: From the Rhebel http://www.<No links to this website>/sport/football/football-news/rangers-chief-stewart-robertson-says-8055881 No quoting from the Record which clearly has an bias against us. This isn't the first time they've misquoted or put words in the mouth of our players/staff. They took Rob Kiernan out of context, the put words in Martyn Waghorns mouth, and now an idea of a ban to get the reader into the mindset that what Mr robertson is talking about is banning people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,601 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: You've just contradicted yourself, first you say it should have been a stronger statement and that it should have mentioned that it was by Hibs fans etc and now you've just came out with what I've quoted? You can't have it both ways and lets be honest here if don't get updates and statements where possible from the club the responses from our own fans would be even worse as every so often the situation that happened needs to be highlighted again until full justice is served to the HIbs fans and club. It doesn't say enough for me you seem happy with it i can accept that. Why cant you accept that i find it a bit weak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Smile said: It doesn't say enough for me you seem happy with it i can accept that. Why cant you accept that i find it a bit weak. I was actually commenting on your contradictions between your posts I'm also not sure how you can find it weak he commented quite clearly on a few occasions that it was Hibs fans who started and caused the trouble he can't exactly say it any stronger than that, he also basically said the book should be thrown at them. I would really like to know how his comments are weak as he has clearly stated where the blame should lie and that the punishments should fit the crime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,601 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: I was actually commenting on your contradictions between your posts I'm also not sure how you can find it weak he commented quite clearly on a few occasions that it was Hibs fans who started and caused the trouble he can't exactly say it any stronger than that, he also basically said the book should be thrown at them. I would really like to know how his comments are weak as he has clearly stated where the blame should lie and that the punishments should fit the crime. Oh so you want to win on the internet, Why did i not spot that earlier. you should have just said you needed that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Just watched this for the first time and find it an absolutely deplorable response. While the initial statement from the club was MAGNIFICENT, this interviewappeared ill-prepared and iwas, as my mother used to say, "weak as dishwater". This imho was a poor repose from the man representing our club in a week when the club and its fans have been battered physically AND verbally. The media have shifted the focus from the thousands of Hibs thugs to blaming a few hundred Rangers fans who responded to their provocation. I lost count, my blood was starting to boil, at the number of ocassions Robertson used the word 'like'. We would like to think the. SFA, he should be demanding SFA and Police Scotland action and giving them little or no squirm room. Hibs need to be punished and Robertson should be demanding that punishment rather than cozying up to the authoriies. When representing the club he has to choose his words carefully, he does not have to roll over, very poor Mr. Robertson. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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