Popular Post K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2016 I thought this was worthy of a second thread since the first one, the debate has moved on, became infested and semantics getting trotted out by some of the usual suspects and everyone going round in circles. If an admin/mod feels this should be merged then no problems - I just feel it's best to start a fresh with these new bits and get it out there again so to speak and also there's some stuff here that needs maximum publicity IMO. Let me showcase the difference between Hibs and Rangers. This is a legit letter from Hibs asking them to explain and giving them the benefit of the doubt. It shows just how scummy the guys like Robertson and the rest such as King and Murray higher up the chain actually are when you see the difference in attitudes. It makes me sick to be honest. OK as promised before in my original thread yesterday, the original letter from Rangers. Please note I have only seen two of the letters that have been sent out - but both letters say the same thing verbatim. So uploading one will sufice. EDIT - I've got the second letter so added that it, too. The original Hibs letter : The above enlarged a bit : I'm sorry but I genuinely think it's disgusting the difference in attitude between the clubs. We are way behind the times here and struggling in a much larger battle. Rangers and the pricks in charge don't care about the fans - we are all sacrificial lambs to them so they get their cosy positions and jobs at tables. The Rangers fan who pleaded NOT GUILTY to ALL charges letter : Jdee.rfc, Perth_Campsie_Ger, Blumhoilann and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three stripes 411 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Disgusted to be honest .. Â Â graeme_4, K.A.I and minstral 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2016 They don't give a shit, they claim we bring the club into disrepute but they let any cunt and their pal spout lies about us without a word said. That is until it's a director being attacked then it's all guns blazing, Rangers men in the boardroom my arse. eejay the dj, bluegecko, K.A.I and 8 others 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 34,987 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Actually makes me angry reading that. After settling on it I am convinced that clown done this to get a seat on that board to be shouted down at every opportunity considering every other club has interests which always include damaging Rangers. There is no other explanation after their statement after the game. Possibly one of the biggest retractions I've seen from the club. Absolutely shocking treatment K.A.I and Blumhoilann 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
left winger 13,976 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The difference is night and day there. No interest in anything you have to say. No interest in your potential innocence, just latching onto potential guilt. I've read a lot of your moaning today, but no fucking wonder. I'd be raging to receive that, even if I was on the pitch. In fact, I'm raging and I obviously didn't receive it. There is clearly the possibility that some on the pitch could deserve a ban, but that letter's shocking. K.A.I, West_Side, smartypants and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Virtuoso 27,180 Posted July 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2016 14 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Let me showcase the difference between Hibs and Rangers. This is a legit letter from Hibs asking them to explain and giving them the benefit of the doubt. It shows just how scummy the guys like Robertson and the rest such as King and Murray higher up the chain actually are when you see the difference in attitudes. It makes me sick to be honest. I'm sorry but I genuinely think it's disgusting the difference in attitude between the clubs. We are way behind the times here and struggling in a much larger battle. Rangers and the pricks in charge don't care about the fans - we are all sacrificial lambs to them so they get their cosy positions and jobs at tables. Not going into the subject matter of the letters, but the difference in context between the two is night and day. Still no statement from the 'voice of the support' (C1872 / SVL)Â on this I see - strings being firmly pulled from above by their paymasters. Spineless bastards. The Beast, eejay the dj, minstral and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, left winger said: The difference is night and day there. No interest in anything you have to say. No interest in your potential innocence, just latching onto potential guilt. I've read a lot of your moaning today, but no fucking wonder. I'd be raging to receive that, even if I was on the pitch. In fact, I'm raging and I obviously didn't receive it. There is clearly the possibility that some on the pitch could deserve a ban, but that letter's shocking. I appreciate those comments mate,, sums up my feelings well. left winger 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Virtuoso said: Not going into the subject matter of the letters, but the difference in context between the two is night and day. Still no statement from the 'voice of the support' (C1872 / SVL) on this I see - strings being firmly pulled from above by their paymasters. Spineless bastards. 1872/SVL won't say anything unless we tell them to, so we have been told in the 1872 thread. Have you ever heard so much rubbish in all your life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,130 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Pile of shite from our board, far as I'm concerned now they can go take a fuck to themselves.  sickened by these actions.    COWARDS!! Blumhoilann, K.A.I, eejay the dj and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AljayBoy 2,292 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm also disgusted - at the hivs letter. That's exactly the type of wishy washy handwringing pish I'd expect from them and their ilk.  Although to be fair their letter doesn't seem to be addressed to someone who has actually been arrested, while the gers one clearly has. Regarding the Rangers one, well if your caught, charged, and arrested, then the club don't have much choice to take the action they have, and now the club have taken that action they have the moral authority to claim hivs do the same. whatnobeer and Bluepeter9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, AljayBoy said: I'm also disgusted - at the hivs letter. That's exactly the type of wishy washy handwringing pish I'd expect from them and their ilk.  Although to be fair their letter doesn't seem to be addressed to someone who has actually been arrested, while the gers one clearly has. Regarding the Rangers one, well if your caught, charged, and arrested, then the club don't have much choice to take the action they have, and now the club have taken that action they have the moral authority to claim hivs do the same. and if you have pled not guilty, a Rangers fan and awaiting trial? Ayrshire Blue and HG5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,024 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The thing that gets me is the season ticket removal with no refund!!!!!! The said person could walk free from court but would find themselves banned and out of pocket into the bargain. A clear case of thanks for defending the club and players on the day in question but now we have all season monies in we can start banning people who were rightly lauded for defending the club and staff. As own goals go this tops anything I've witnessed on the park. Blumhoilann, Gascoigne8 and eejay the dj 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Also there's other info that I have passed onto Fishtank previous and Gogzy today via PM that prove the Police (and by extension possibly Rangers but can't prove it yet) that also supports the narrative that Rangers fans are getting treated like shite and they are all falling over theirselves to nail us. Due to the nature of this online society, I don't know if I can ever post it up for everyone but those that need to know do - those who doubt it don't matter. Sorry if that's cryptic but it's true. Absolute stitch up job on us, our fans and our club and no-one is there to prevent/fight it including our club Blumhoilann, Perth_Campsie_Ger, crabbit bear and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AljayBoy 2,292 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Just now, K.A.I said: and if you have pled not guilty, a Rangers fan and awaiting trial? Â The fact there's been enough evidence to bring charges means the club have to act, and they've done so. I'd hope and expect the club would rescind the ban if a 'not guilty' verdict was returned, but in the mean time I'm not surprised the club have taken the action they have, as they need to be seen as being pro active. Mols2806 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RFC55 107,777 Posted July 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: Also there's other info that I have passed onto Fishtank previous and Gogzy today via PM that prove the Police (and by extension possibly Rangers but can't prove it yet) that also supports the narrative that Rangers fans are getting treated like shite and they are all falling over theirselves to nail us. Due to the nature of this online society, I don't know if I can ever post it up for everyone but those that need to know do - those who doubt it don't matter. Sorry if that's cryptic but it's true. Absolute stitch up job on us, our fans and our club and no-one is there to prevent/fight it including our club Dont post anything like that mate.  Keep it till everything is over. You know these cunts look in here K.A.I, Darius72, Ozblue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 34,987 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Just now, AljayBoy said:  The fact there's been enough evidence to bring charges means the club have to act, and they've done so. I'd hope and expect the club would rescind the ban if a 'not guilty' verdict was returned, but in the mean time I'm not surprised the club have taken the action they have, as they need to be seen as being pro active. You joking? They can sell the same seat twice, are they fucking rescinding anything. No they were being pro active defending us. This retraction is on another scale, which keeps Mr Robertson sitting pretty on a board where he won't be listened to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,771 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Where are the grounds to take £400 off you with no refund? This is fucking shocking, it is stealing William McBeath, Carsons Dog and Blumhoilann 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, AljayBoy said: Â The fact there's been enough evidence to bring charges means the club have to act, and they've done so. I'd hope and expect the club would rescind the ban if a 'not guilty' verdict was returned, but in the mean time I'm not surprised the club have taken the action they have, as they need to be seen as being pro active. I'm sorry I don't get this ... as I said in the other thread last night (and got accused of bragging and being a football hooligan by some idiot that doesn't even know me) I've walked free from 3 football related charges ... no evidence - charges mean fuck all, Police called liars off a judge on 2 of they occassions .. if it was upto you and that outlook I'm hung and done before trial. I'm sorry but that's a shite outlook. Innocent until proven guilty. The Beast, dougie76, mchammer and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 You can lie in court, steal millions and the SFAÂ find you fit to run a football club you scuppered in the first place and can attend matches!!, then have the hypocrisy to ban someone who has not yet been to court and could be innocent. Rangers are well on the road to the top now, do we really want these bastards running our club. The Beast and Blumhoilann 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rfc52 said: Dont post anything like that mate.  Keep it till everything is over. You know these cunts look in here No intention of. The stuff I'm referring to, sadly, I can never mention online or my life will quite literally be hell going to games and who knows what else. I know that reads paranoid to some, but as I said anyone that knows knows and anyone that doesn't believe me doesn't matter. Just wish people would step into the real world in modern day Scotland. eejay the dj, RyanMac and RFC55 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Three stripes 411 Posted July 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Rfc52 said: Dont post anything like that mate.  Keep it till everything is over. You know these cunts look in here Wish he could post it before anymore rangers fans get the early morning knock,maybe if there's proof that we know what the rozzers are up to they might slow down. Hate to say it but celtic would be all over this defending there fans,makes you sick that our board are same old same old. eejay the dj, K.A.I, RFC55 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Big Al 55 9,205 Posted July 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, trueblue68 said: So it's ok to go on the park and assault people going by your logic. how thrilling No, once it's been proven thats what someone did then the club could have decided what action to take. IMO at that point after the court cases they should consider the penalty for each guilty verdict on a a case by case basis, possibly after a meeting. Goggs, RFC55, Courtyard Bear and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three stripes 411 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: No intention of. The stuff I'm referring to, sadly, I can never mention online or my life will quite literally be hell going to games and who knows what else. I know that reads paranoid to some, but as I said anyone that knows knows and anyone that doesn't believe me doesn't matter. Just wish people would step into the real world in modern day Scotland. Welcome to the republic of Scotland..... Utter infested shitehole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Three stripes said: Wish he could post it before anymore rangers fans get the early morning knock,maybe if there's proof that we know what the rozzers are up to they might slow down. Hate to say it but celtic would be all over this defending there fans,makes you sick that our board are same old same old. Yes with 1300 taig QC's. eejay the dj 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The club shouldn't be taking sanctions against fans before investigating and coming to a guilty verdict. Any fan on the pitch is at risk but deserves the chance to defend themselves first and foremost. The big unknown is that none of us will ever know what's going on at boardroom level. We can speculate and hear odd part bit were always out the loop and always will be. K.A.I 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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