RFCRobertson 11,705 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 In the past 4 games, I've noticed a good improvement with our backline. Although it's not been properly tested yet, it looks that they've had a telling off regarding positions. There was a good constant back line of 3 minimum and 4 at most times. Barton and Rossiter looks like the part in terms of CDM, it's just the thing we were missing last season was someone capable to stay back and just provide a bit of support. No offence to Halliday but he's too aggressive minded to do CDM work, Barton on the other hand just sits comfortably in the middle of the two Centrehalfs at the half way line and eases the ball to players. The fullbacks look to be doing a better job defensively too, again they've not been tested yet but the fact that the communication seems to be sorted in terms of 1 going forward and 1 staying behind seems to be down. I don't think I saw Tavernier/Hodson and Wallace both up the park. There was usually one holding back. So early stages but so far it looks like it's promising. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewislaudrup 844 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The first 20 mins against motherwell, the back line was no where to be seen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybear123 215 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 would all be topped off nicely with a new pacey, commanding centre half Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camshy 812 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Yeah so far so good but as you say we havent been stretched enough especially against the minnows to gauge how we will cope defensively. Motherwell caused us some concerns despite our dominant second half Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 After watching the first 20mins against Motherwell I will wait and see once they are tested again before passing judgement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,438 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 It's about confidence Robbo. The back line will feel much more protected with Barton/Kranjcar or young Rossiter sitting in front of them. We now have defensive midfielders that we all hoped for for most of last season. Confidence is a huge part of a players psych. MW has added that with a bit of steel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,705 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 3 minutes ago, lewislaudrup said: The first 20 mins against motherwell, the back line was no where to be seen I wouldn't worry too much about that though, these games competitive as they are are acting as pre-season games. It was the lads second game since the SC final. But time will tell how well they cope with counters. The critical thing is is we need to get early goals so teams will have to come out and play rather than commit men behind the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggy1872 427 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Tbf the Motherwell game was just last years team, no Barton Hill etc so not much improvement was likely to have been made until we got the new signings on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky. 6,920 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, lewislaudrup said: The first 20 mins against motherwell, the back line was no where to be seen This. The backline can't possibly look better if it's not yet been tested... When it was tested against Motherwell it looked shaky. Let's wait and see who we can bring in, but hopefully Clint Hill can help to organise it a little better and stronger midfielders can anchor better than before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 yes and no. Other than the first half an hour away to Motherwell we weren't tested. We've had zero testing at the back since. However, what I will say that agree's with you to an extent we rarely went 4 games in a row with clean sheets last season or at least 4 games we didn't look ropey wheras we look comfortable in these games. So yes and no. We still need a defence IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandSuckMaster 1,775 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 You have noticed nothing. They have had little to nothing to do and the little, against Mwell, they were shite. You are just posting for the sake of posting and starting a thread as usual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,780 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 We have been playing shite teams bar Motherwell, far too early. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,438 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, GrandSuckMaster said: You have noticed nothing. They have had little to nothing to do and the little, against Mwell, they were shite. You are just posting for the sake of posting and starting a thread as usual. Ffs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 We shouldn't be tested against the likes if Annan, East Stirling and Stranraer. Against Motherwell we were still shaky at the back and they are one of the weaker teams in the division. I still have my doubts. Especially with Kiernan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,705 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 1 minute ago, GrandSuckMaster said: You have noticed nothing. They have had little to nothing to do and the little, against Mwell, they were shite. You are just posting for the sake of posting and starting a thread as usual. Hardly anyone mentions the defense. Other than "Kiernan/Wilson is shit" which ain't fair. That game against motherwell was our second since the SC final and was the same team as last season. The defense is untested but right now you can see something that looks to have improved in formation alone. Look at Forrester, he's have a nightmare of a time thenow. It's still preseason and the defense in my opinion looks to have improved on the sheer basis that the manpower as been allocated properly. IE a back line of 3, with a fullback on stand by. In contrast too last season when it was just 2 by themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,705 Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, K.A.I said: yes and no. Other than the first half an hour away to Motherwell we weren't tested. We've had zero testing at the back since. However, what I will say that agree's with you to an extent we rarely went 4 games in a row with clean sheets last season or at least 4 games we didn't look ropey wheras we look comfortable in these games. So yes and no. We still need a defence IMO. Absolutely need another CB, Wilson and Kiernan although they likely improve under Hill are just too alike. Hill I don't see starting a whole bunch, so I would like a new CB paired with Wilson/Kiernan, with the latter in rotation. and the new one subbed with Hill every now and again. Although people are saying we have been untested against Annan, Stranraer and East Stirlingshire that doesn't mean it was impossible for them to get goals. We should've bossed the game vs alloa at home on the title day, yet they pierced the defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegecko 306 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Let's wait and see how they cope in this league. 20 mins against motherwell we rode our luck the other 3 games have been against poor opposition Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the goal machine 7,765 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 We've not been tested since Motherwell where they were a shambles at times. Jury is still very much out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,937 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 1 hour ago, RFCRobertson said: Hardly anyone mentions the defense. Other than "Kiernan/Wilson is shit" which ain't fair. That game against motherwell was our second since the SC final and was the same team as last season. The defense is untested but right now you can see something that looks to have improved in formation alone. Look at Forrester, he's have a nightmare of a time thenow. It's still preseason and the defense in my opinion looks to have improved on the sheer basis that the manpower as been allocated properly. IE a back line of 3, with a fullback on stand by. In contrast too last season when it was just 2 by themselves. Tavernier's been slated multiple times, none more so than the contract stuff and the first half v Motherwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,705 Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: Tavernier's been slated multiple times, none more so than the contract stuff and the first half v Motherwell. Tav got it rough after the SC irc. Tav has the safety net of his goal tally though. The centrebacks don't have that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,599 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 We've been playing against cunts that I've given the run around at fives before. Proper test is yet to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lidorfc 6,664 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 It's easy to look decent when you're playing the likes of Annan mate. The defence was lucky not to concede 2 or 3 goals in the first half against Motherwell, hopefully that was just a bit of rust but it was far from promising. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbyst 570 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Courtyard Bear said: After watching the first 20mins against Motherwell I will wait and see once they are tested again before passing judgement. this^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,430 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 The jury's still out. A defence that included Faure at RB, McCulloch, Mohsni went 4 and 5 games in a row without conceding against these types of teams. Sure it's a start but we'll see how it goes in the first 4/5 league games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Imo we need someone in the mould of big Rob Jones who played at Hibs, total no nonsense monster who let little past him, please note (in the mould of) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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