ronniemca 479 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just noticed our under 19's results in South Africa.the boys seemed to have performed well and pleased the coaches.however despite scoring 5 goals in our 2 matches we have conceded 7 and lost both games.dont know much about the personnel in our youth team but we play the same formation and style throughout the club .could it be the MW system is just too much of a lottery and needs to be a bit more pragmatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Time will tell ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 whats was the rangers team players current age? MW is on record as saying he wants younger players playing at that level. If thats the case, then a 16 year old will struggle to match an 18 year old physically.  the results then would make sense - we can play football, but struggle physically  - especially at the back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebestest 2,145 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 The flaw might lie with the personnel in defence as opposed to the system itself. We seem to have our best players up the park and settle for what we've got in defence. Maybe our mistake might be under-budgeting in defence. As the previous poster says, time will tell, but I'm hoping MW springs for a quality CB before the window slams shut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Just now, cushynumber said: whats was th rangers team players current age? MW is on record as saying he wants younger players playing at that level. If thats the case, then a 16 year old will struggle to match an 18 year old physically.  the results then would make sense - we can play football, but struggle physically  - especially at the back. I totally agree with his logic on this subject he's used Southampton and Spurs as examples of this method bringing through great talent. it would be nice for the boys to win most games but these results mean nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 System isn't flawed if you get the right players capable of doing their job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Do we have a coach in yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 1,480 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 The results aren't important, the experience is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I wonder what Walter thinks because he really was more of a traditional build from the back back Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
docspiderman 1,178 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Probably thinking "I would have spent £12 to £15 million this transfer window" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, docspiderman said: Probably thinking "I would have spent £12 to £15 million this transfer window" At least the EBTs weren't on his watch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: I wonder what Walter thinks because he really was more of a traditional build from the back back He will be thinking the defence is rotten the same way he did when he took over from PLG and fixed that. Warburton may not be getting his first picks for whatever reason as i can't imagine Hill would have topped his Transfer list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,594 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 A dominant centre  half Butcher/Gough type is needed....leaders all over the park Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Smile said: He will be thinking the defence is rotten the same way he did when he took over from PLG and fixed that. Warburton may not be getting his first picks for whatever reason as i can't imagine Hill would have topped his Transfer list. It is a slight worry although fortunately we won't be playing any other decent teams this season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Don't agree with people saying results aren't important - it's vital for youngsters to be competitive and develop a winning mentality at this age. The players just don't seem to be there for us at the moment. I'm looking mostly towards the 16's and 17's who seem to be competing better (from the little I hear about) Celtic have been utterly dominant in the U20's/U19's for years now. The 2/3 times I watched them play us at that level last season they have a strong, physical side that can defend and also have the cutting edge to score. I don't know what the answer is but I don't like seeing our reserves/U20's finish mid-table and take pumpings galore. We should be aiming higher for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Don't agree with people saying results aren't important - it's vital for youngsters to be competitive and develop a winning mentality at this age. The players just don't seem to be there for us at the moment. I'm looking mostly towards the 16's and 17's who seem to be competing better (from the little I hear about) Celtic have been utterly dominant in the U20's/U19's for years now. The 2/3 times I watched them play us at that level last season they have a strong, physical side that can defend and also have the cutting edge to score. I don't know what the answer is but I don't like seeing our reserves/U20's finish mid-table and take pumpings galore. We should be aiming higher for them. We need to get back to a hunger right through the club from top to bottom Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 18 minutes ago, Thermopylae said: I wonder what Walter thinks because he really was more of a traditional build from the back back When did Walter ever give a fuck about the youth system? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: When did Walter ever give a fuck about the youth system? When did I mention youth?  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Don't agree with people saying results aren't important - it's vital for youngsters to be competitive and develop a winning mentality at this age. The players just don't seem to be there for us at the moment. I'm looking mostly towards the 16's and 17's who seem to be competing better (from the little I hear about) Celtic have been utterly dominant in the U20's/U19's for years now. The 2/3 times I watched them play us at that level last season they have a strong, physical side that can defend and also have the cutting edge to score. I don't know what the answer is but I don't like seeing our reserves/U20's finish mid-table and take pumpings galore. We should be aiming higher for them. Â It has to come from the manager down when we hear stuff like the League Cup not important or came to early for us it sends out the wrong message. At Rangers, we should be looking to win everything we enter. A winning mentality at all levels is important there should be no second best at Rangers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Smile said: It has to come from the manager down when we hear stuff like the League Cup not important or came to early for us it sends out the wrong message. At Rangers, we should be looking to win everything we enter. A winning mentality at all levels is important there should be no second best at Rangers. That is the Rangers way Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,242 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 3 under 19s on our team.  Brazilian international experience in theirs. Clearly was too big a hurdle in the end, but what great experience and development for these young lads. Most will be available again next season so have time on our side. To me this is likelier the main factor rather than the system at this age level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassaaaa 11,406 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Sign up the South African boys team........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat 4,511 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Disappointed to hear results didn't go our way but this is all about development. For me , results don't really matter until first team level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 3 hours ago, cushynumber said: whats was the rangers team players current age? MW is on record as saying he wants younger players playing at that level. If thats the case, then a 16 year old will struggle to match an 18 year old physically.  the results then would make sense - we can play football, but struggle physically  - especially at the back. I may be wrong here but I believe we are trialling "bio-banding" this year where kids are matched more on physical capability than birth year. Elfideldo might know a bit more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,019 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 We played with only 3 players from the u19s. Rest were u17s.. We also played against Fluminese, which included Brazilian internationals, and the South African national team. By all accounts we are unlucky not to sit on 4 points just now. This is a well thought out system/method which will raise the standard of our youths so they are ready for first team football at a much earlier age, which is the point of our Academy. We should be patient.. We have the right people in charge! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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