Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Today was a game I expected Barton to bully and he whimpered if you think he was good or drove the team forward then you need to take the specs back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,861 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, Creampuff said: I don't think Barton, Rossiter, or Halliday are the problem. I just don't think the three of them can play together. We need Holt or Windass in there. This. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Barton was good today. Anyone else notice him covering for Tav a lot in the second half and allowing him to go forward more? He also made a few great challenges, that one on Johnson I think where he slid in from the back, won the ball and played a great pass afterwards was impressive and got the fans going, he drives us on and leads the team barking out orders which is what we've needed for ages in midfield. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax399 3,689 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Barton and Rossiter together are fine by me. The question is, who is the third man in MF. This may be controversial to some, but it's not Andy Halliday. That much is clear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,754 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, Creampuff said: I don't think Barton, Rossiter, or Halliday are the problem. I just don't think the three of them can play together. We need Holt or Windass in there. 100% this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackandra 732 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Hate to say it but I think the biggest problem in our midfield is Halliday. I was a big fan last year but he looks a bit out his depth so far this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Smile said: We got destroyed by Burnley who are piss poor but were made out to be Barcelona on here, Bartons not played well this season and looks unfit posters are only saying what they see. Liverpool hammered Barca the other week, Burnley skelped Liverpool today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddybear123 215 Posted August 20, 2016 Author Share Posted August 20, 2016 46 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: not one for defending the midfield, but it must be fucking baw bursting seeing the space for an expertly played pass in behind, only to find your centre forward 3 yards deeper than you because WE DONT HAVE A FUCKING STRIKER honest to fuck its demoralising as fuck watching as we move the ball from ide to side because there is fuck all to hit in front of us, if i was a centre half id love to play against us simply because you can let the man your supposed to mark run to the halfway line instead of into your box Dodoo offered much more movement and offered us an outlet in the 2nd half imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 He never downs tools that much is for sure. Gives everything he has. I think he will get better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,754 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Smile said: We got destroyed by Burnley who are piss poor but were made out to be Barcelona on here, Bartons not played well this season and looks unfit posters are only saying what they see. Burnley aren't piss poor at all. They went about 23 games undefeated last season which is a pretty incredible achievement when you look at how competitive and difficult the Championship is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 minute ago, DBBTB said: Burnley aren't piss poor at all. They went about 23 games undefeated last season season which is a pretty incredible achievement when you look at how competitive and difficult the Championship is. Looked average to me but against our defence most teams look like they could score. Anyone up front with pace kills us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, thehost said: he would be better employed playing rather than media work, he has barely won a tackle, looks a yard off the pace and he will be taken to the cleaners by legobrron if that is all he has to offer Another embarrassing bears den post. At least you're consistent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 The balance of midfield is not right . I don't think you can have Barton , Rossiter and Halliday they do not work well together as none of them run by the forwards from the midfield . Warburton got Halliday to try that in the second half and we looked better , infact but for a great tackle Halliday would have scored, but it's not Halliday's natural game . I would also add Kranjer to that and say you should not have a midfield 3 from any mix of those 4. We need at least one of Holt, Forrester or Windass in the mid field as all 3 of them can do this role . I think Forrester is wasted out wide and is less effective there . Still team showed true Rangers character today and kept going till the end . Could be seen to be a big result at the end of the season Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Teddybear123 said: Seen a lot of people on here criticising Barton's contribution so far this season. Personally I thought in the Burnley game when he was used in the holding role he looked a class above any other player we have. For me this is when he's at his best, sitting back spraying the passes around and breaking up play. However, when he gets played with rossiter, he plays in a far more advanced role where he is unable to use his fantastic passing range and is forced to dribble with the ball in tight areas which is not his strong point! Like alot of other people, I do not think we should be playing Barton and rossiter together while we're playing a 433 system. Imho, you've hit the nail on the head with what's going wrong with Barton. Barton and Rossiter need to practise more so they don't get in each others way. We need to master this 4-3-3 system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechwood bear 559 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Thought Barton played well second half. First half the whole team were rank. What happened wi Barton over at the Govan stand? Ball went out for a throw in and seen a section shouting at him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb1972 40 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Rabbit said: Barton was poor I felt, once Holt is fit he will replace him pish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger4life_1872 29,448 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I thought he was the poorest of the midfield 3 today , rossiter was doing the majority of the tackling and halliday was the 1 trying to get into the box , looks like he is running through treacle at times too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I like him, and he will come good. One thing to commend him for is that he doesn't hide from his responsibilities on the park, and he is at least working his way into form. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,447 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, In Dungeons Deep said: Think the issue is with Joey that he walks into every game thinking it'll be easy. Games against Rangers will be every single teams cup final, we should be treating them as such. He actually said those words in the post match interview against Hamilton I think, said its every teams cup final, don't think he is under any illusions. Don't think his fitness levels are where they should be though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Barton is edging his influence into this team in every match he plays. Wherever the ball is, no matter where on the park, he isn't far from it. He's a better player than I thought we were getting. He reads the game well, he keeps the shape of the midfield very well, and as I said earlier, he is always in the mix. Against Kilmarnock I'd have Rossiter, Barton, and Forrester in the middle. Barton will come good for this team, and he is entitled to a proper settling in period like most players get when they move to a new set up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,820 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Loved the tackling from Barton and Kranjcar today - something that many of our players have been unable to do for years. Such a stark contrast to watching McCoists's team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRodgA2k8 542 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 hours ago, DMax399 said: Barton and Rossiter together are fine by me. The question is, who is the third man in MF. This may be controversial to some, but it's not Andy Halliday. That much is clear. There's nothing controversial in that mate, Haliday is awful in the further forward position Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 hours ago, DMax399 said: Barton and Rossiter together are fine by me. The question is, who is the third man in MF. This may be controversial to some, but it's not Andy Halliday. That much is clear. For now, it looks as if it's Forrester. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Yeah, agree it's either/or with Barton and Rossiter. And Halliday should be hooked. Holt is a limited player, but at least he has energy and stamina and supports his team mates well. He's positionally good and makes good runs into the box, where we tend to miss a presence. Might be the time to give him a go again. Other than that, Windass will give better options, and if Forrester is to play, I'd prefer him inside rather than wide. Forrester in place of Halliday would be an improvement ATM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamgers 1,214 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I just wish he'd keep his fucking mouth shut and do his talking on the park! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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