RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 From 2018, the top 4 leagues will have 4 automatic places in the UCL. Currently that's Spain, England, Germany and Italy. Farcical Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,781 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Just now, psb07158 said: From 2018, the top 4 leagues will have 4 automatic places in the UCL. Currently that's Spain, England, Germany and Italy. Farcical Money talks. CL has been bullshit for years now and it's the same games over and over again but it get's the viewers and sponsors so it will not change. Clubs like our and from other minor European countries will suffer big time as less and less of us make it to the groups where the big £ is. I personally think it will be a huge ask to get in the CL groups again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, The Godfather said: Money talks. CL has been bullshit for years now and it's the same games over and over again but it get's the viewers and sponsors so it will not change. Clubs like our and from other minor European countries will suffer big time as less and less of us make it to the groups where the big £ is. I personally think it will be a huge ask to get in the CL groups again. They might as well just make it an invite-only closed shop. It's the way it's heading. Fucking garbage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banner 343 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Shocking. Finish 4th in your league and go straight in whilst teams from other countries who win their league have to qualify with even fewer spots available. Money has fucked football and these greedy bastards wont stop until we are all excluded. Shit like this just makes me thing a European league with the likes of us, Holland, Norway ect is the only route to go. So fuck if you are then banned from UEFA competitions, they wont be inviting us soon anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,781 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 1 minute ago, psb07158 said: They might as well just make it an invite-only closed shop. It's the way it's heading. Fucking garbage. It shouldn't be called the Champions League for a start. If you win your league then you should go into the group stages regardless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, Banner said: Shocking. Finish 4th in your league and go straight in whilst teams from other countries who win their league have to qualify with even fewer spots available. Money has fucked football and these greedy bastards wont stop until we are all excluded. Shit like this just makes me thing a European league with the likes of us, Holland, Norway ect is the only route to go. So fuck if you are then banned from UEFA competitions, they wont be inviting us soon anyway. The problem with that is you need unity amongst the other clubs. A European league with: Rangers Celtic Aberdeen Ajax PSV Feyenoord Porto Sporting Benfica FC Copenhagen IFK Goteborg Malmo ^^ would be incredible. Interest from various countries, massive clubs and excellent competition for the title. Then have relegation/promotion in a play-off style setup from national leagues which we've left (2 down every year) so you get 2 new teams every year and freshen it up a bit. Total pie in the sky stuff though Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banner 343 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 It actually got pretty close back in the early 00's. UEFA where that worried about they agreed to revamp the UEFA cup in to the piece of shit it now is in order to try and close the gap with the Champions League. I think the UEFA competions have had their day as far as clubs like us are concerned. Europa League is a piss poor substitute for the Champions League. A league containing the teams you mentioned, and you could probably add more as some French teams would probably be interested (not PSG obviously) would have huge commercial and tv interest. UEFA would quickly change its tune when the money started rolling in as well. I think this is a real possibility in the next 10 to 15 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 So the top four countries go from 11 guaranteed group places plus 5 play offs to 16 guaranteed group places. This year they managed 14 places, so the new rules would have excluded two "lesser" countries a place at the top table. Personally, I would have preferred they just expanded the groups, but clearly this meant spreading out the money more - a no no to these money grabbing clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggy 1,308 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 So will these changes be enough to push the Dutch, Portuguese and French FAs into action? I doubt it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banner 343 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Shuggy said: So will these changes be enough to push the Dutch, Portuguese and French FAs into action? I doubt it. Fuck the FAs... will it be enough to push the clubs. If we have to break away from UEFA and the respective FAs so be it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonRFC82 305 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Personally find myself watching less & less football these days, especially the Champions' League group stages. Tom Miller & RangersTV, that'll do for me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Blue 1,384 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 From looking at the teams who qualified this season, these changes are been tailored to suit one country. Italy and corruption just doesnt seem plausible Spain - Barca, Real, Sevilla, Atlectico Italy - Juve, Napoli Germany - Bayern, Dortmund, Monchengladbach, Leverkusen England - Arsenal, Man City, Leicester, Spurs Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBluebells 6,898 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 'Big' clubs with too much money and power, CL heading further down the pan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,623 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 More change will follow this - it'll end up a franchise league like NBA. I dont think we'll ever see Rangers in the main competition as it is now again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 It's farcical but if the current champions qualifying route is staying then I don't know that it makes that huge a difference to our chances? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 has zero effect on us win the league go through three qualifying rounds. More money to those who make it to the group stages as of 2018 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 The competition used to be amazing 5-10 years ago. Now in recent times it is the same old teams reaching the semis or the final. It is just boring. Hopefully the English clubs can skelp Bayern or Barca/Real this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar 13,676 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Fucking joke. They can ram it up their shitpipe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterD 7,430 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I'm actually surprised they've not allowed more teams from some of these countries to qualify. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,011 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Surely if they're going to do this they should allow 2nd place in the other countries to have a chance of qualifying, it's not a CL anymore anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,524 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Bastards. A football revolution of some kind is needed. 850 Million odd people live in countries that play in UEFA competitions. Of that 240 Million odd people live in Spain, Italy, Germany and England and get favourable treatment, the other 610 odd million get the leftovers. Need to leave the 'big 4' to compete on their own and see what everyone else can accomplish without being suffocated by them. Need some kind of mass uprising against it. Even if it means the other countries operate as some kind of lesser alternative, in terms of financial value and playing quality. At least it'd be an actual, genuine, competition, based on sporting achievement, and there's alot to be said for that. I'd settle for it. It's what we're being dragged further from. I can dream, anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracle 7,764 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I see they're changing how the co-efficient is calculated as well: Quote Club coefficient system A new system for the club coefficients: clubs are judged on their own records (deletion of the country share for individual club coefficient unless that coefficient is lower than 20% of the association's coefficient). Historical success in the competition will also be acknowledged in coefficient calculation (points for previous European titles with a weighted system for UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League titles) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therightway 65 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 So Italy goes from having 2 guaranteed CL spots to having 4, bullshit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthranger 3,842 Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 The champions league has been shite recently, a lot of people I know have barely watched it the last few years. Too many ties between the same clubs, and what does UEFA do, give us more ?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Kool Blue 139 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I rarely watch the CL outside the final these days, as it's the same boring shit every year. UEFA have pretty much ruined the competition with their greed and pandering to the bigger leagues. Even the likes of Porto and Benfica have had to go through bullshit qualifications and both have won European trophies in recent memory. Hopefully we can get some sort of Atlantic League up and running, as it's the only way smaller footballing nations are going to make enough money to survive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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