English Football League to consider Celtic and Rangers

[Ace 3,556]

Shaun Harvey, the English Football League chief executive, says that his members will decide whether Celtic and Rangers can join a new ‘fifth division’ planned for the start of the 2019-2020 season.

The 72 EFL clubs are being asked for their opinions on how the Football League expands to four divisions of 20 teams each, as part of the ‘Whole Game Solution’. The two Scottish clubs have long been considered a possibility for the new ‘fifth division’ and Harvey says the final decision will be down to his members.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/08/28/english-football-league-to-consider-celtic-and-rangers-for-inclu/

[Ace 3,556]

Here we go again, there is another article that talks about this proposal being fast tracked to prevent the OF being snapped up by a North Atlantic League Revamp

[TheKingObv 10,642]

Will never happen 

 

[gogzy 31,195]

almost a 100% certainty to be voted down, no way they are going to let us in.   No way.

[gogzy 31,195]

Also if they vote on Rangers and celtic, won't they have to vote on every other scottish team?  

 

Are we heading towards a British superleague type set up?

[Vanoli 4,625]

Will never happen. Don't want it to either.

[Ace 3,556]

I agree with others, I doubt it will happen but this time they aren't replacing their own with us.

This time, it's a brand new league with extra spaces, a league thatan OF competing in will bring further media attention and lucrative sponsorship deals.

It's incredibly unlikely but ...

[Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312]

I'd go for it in a heartbeat. If we got into the football league with a passport to the premiership then the possibility of a big foreign investor becomes very real. 

We (and admittedly them) would be prime targets for Middle East/American investors 

it could transform us. I think the clubs down there would buy into it  - not all but most. It's the fa's and UEFA who will block it. 

[KingKirk 25,633]

I think it's time for a new challenge tbh this countries competitions are to easy.

[TMB 14,167]

If they allowed us to join their 5th Division we should go for it.  It'll be the end of all our financial troubles.  We could call it 'The Journey Part 2: EPL by 2030'.

[KingKirk 25,633]

Can see it been blocked but id be well up to being part of a british superleague as another possibility.

[linfield1690 4,249]

In the words of brian lamont "it's a load of shite"

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

No thanks.

[KingKirk 25,633]

having read the full article it says each division will be made up of 20teams so a decision will be made/ clubs asked where these new clubs should come from. Says both OF clubs would add clout to the set up.

Still don't expect it to happen least we are being discussed

[borderbear 150]

This subject is always pie in the sky stuff along with the Atlantic league, not least because of UEFA rules on cross border leagues but stranger things have happened and the precedent is already set with the Welsh teams.

 It's saying they want divisions of 20 between the EPL to D5. There's 92 clubs down to L2 at the moment so that leaves 8 additional places so no one loses apart from potentially 2 from the Vanarma National league but they'd still move 6 up so they could hardly complain. There would be a big financial incentive to any team who believed they would never reach the premiership themselves, which would be not far off over half out of the 92 Clubs. If it was a 50% vote to win we could scrape it.

Pie in the sky but a seat back at the top table of British football is no less than our great institution deserves. And if they say they can only take one we can join and Sellik could join the League of Ireland.

[gogzy 31,195]

OK let's play along with it for a while.

A) do you think the English would vote both of us in, and do you think there should be seperate votes for both team?

B) if we were voted in, would you accept?   Do you think we would keep the same harcore traveling support making a 9 hour drive to the bottom of England for a tuesday game?  

C) Do you think we would fare well, do you think both the old firm could easily progress through the lowr leagues and at the very least get to the championship before things got tough?

D) if we went, would you expect a dramatic change in our budget, and the type of players we would sign?  do you think that some of the players we have right now would want to play in the English 5th division ( when I assume the possibility of Euro football at least swayed some decisions to come here.

E) Do you think they would ask us to move our grounds south of the border?

 

I am sure I'll think of more questions.

[gogzy 31,195]

how would you feel about a poll being made on this thread ace?   you can add one in the edit post function in your OP.

 

add a few questions, I think this could be an intersting thread.

 

 

[K.A.I 36,183]

Would absolutely love it but I don't see how anything has changed. This is been on the table a few times and voted out convincingly - there's nothing new happened that will have made them think they've made a mistake from last time and a clamour to vote us in.

It always has been, and always will be a pipe-dream. Sadly.

[The Godfather 71,874]

England don't want us, it's becoming boring now.

Let it go

[KingKirk 25,633]

Imagine it that would really separate the men from the boys on away days.

[G.E.C. 18,761]

So if this goes ahead we'll be playing mince like Vauxhall Motors and Dagenham and Redbridge? I'll pass.

[Jmcdonald1990 40]

I'd love a ticket to the big league. Could lead to proper investment and one day we could be a major side in Europe again. But it won't happen. Be a lot of talk then nothing 

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

3 minutes ago, gogzy said:

OK let's play along with it for a while.

A) do you think the English would vote both of us in, and do you think there should be seperate votes for both team?

B) if we were voted in, would you accept?   Do you think we would keep the same harcore traveling support making a 9 hour drive to the bottom of England for a tuesday game?  

C) Do you think we would fare well, do you think both the old firm could easily progress through the lowr leagues and at the very least get to the championship before things got tough?

D) if we went, would you expect a dramatic change in our budget, and the type of players we would sign?  do you think that some of the players we have right now would want to play in the English 5th division ( when I assume the possibility of Euro football at least swayed some decisions to come here.

E) Do you think they would ask us to move our grounds south of the border?

 

I am sure I'll think of more questions.

A - No because 2 English teams will lose out on a place in the new division to accommodate us.

B - No because I think it would actually be a huge step down in quality for us and we'd just fade into obscurity.

C - I don't think us or Celtic would get out of League 1 with our current squads and they could potentially become weaker and not stronger if we were to join "League 3" in this new set up.

D - I think we would struggle to attract players and probably lose a lot of the ones we have into the bargain.

E - No.

[gogzy 31,195]

4 minutes ago, TheLoudenTavernier said:

A - No because 2 English teams will lose out on a place in the new division to accommodate us.

B - No because I think it would actually be a huge step down in quality for us and we'd just fade into obscurity.

C - I don't think us or Celtic would get out of League 1 with our current squads and they could potentially become weaker and not stronger if we were to join "League 3" in this new set up.

D - I think we would struggle to attract players and probably lose a lot of the ones we have into the bargain.

E - No.

fair answers except number 1.  aparrently this is a new league set up with spare spaces for us ( sure I read that, but high as fuck so might be wrong :lol:)

[KingKirk 25,633]

7 minutes ago, gogzy said:

OK let's play along with it for a while.

A) do you think the English would vote both of us in, and do you think there should be seperate votes for both team?

B) if we were voted in, would you accept?   Do you think we would keep the same harcore traveling support making a 9 hour drive to the bottom of England for a tuesday game?  

C) Do you think we would fare well, do you think both the old firm could easily progress through the lowr leagues and at the very least get to the championship before things got tough?

D) if we went, would you expect a dramatic change in our budget, and the type of players we would sign?  do you think that some of the players we have right now would want to play in the English 5th division ( when I assume the possibility of Euro football at least swayed some decisions to come here.

E) Do you think they would ask us to move our grounds south of the border?

 

I am sure I'll think of more questions.

A) No we would be stronger as a package

B) 100% we would

C) probably take 7-8 years to get ourselves to a top end championship team.

D) most of our squad would walk it up until league 1level then a full rebuild would be required.

E) Look at Swansea and Cardiff so precedent already set.