Sav_RFC 7 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Anyone else think we are missing the energy and quality of wee Holt? Feels as though the team have slowed right down with him being out. Also im by no means Andy Halliday's biggest fan but I would have started him ahead of kranjcar yesterday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 An on form fit Jason Holt should be a certain starter,i have said that loads on here, he gives us box to box energy chip in with valuable assists and goals, I think he is now close to fitness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Missing him greatly Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazer89 93 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 lets just hope warburton notices how bad we have missed him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sav_RFC 7 Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 1 minute ago, pcbear said: An on form fit Jason Holt should be a certain starter,i have said that loads on here, he gives us box to box energy chip in with valuable assists and goals, I think he is now close to fitness. Couldn't come at a better time for us if he is mate, midfield needs a shake as much as the defence IMO. Way too slow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weshallnotbemoved! 714 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 He will cup games. Warburton has chosen his team and is sticking to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,439 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 He was part of a high energy, pressing, high tempo midfield last year so yes we miss that energy. I actually feel we may have made a huge mistake signing Barton and Kranjcar (especially if the boss won't drop them). if we had played a midfield 3 of rossiter, windass and holt and pressed the fuck out of them yesterday (also needed more pressing from the forward 3 too) then things wouldn't have been as bad. I hope he gets his chance and I hope he can find his form from last year before his injury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mcv_ 107 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Team is really missing him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,439 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, weshallnotbemoved! said: He will cup games. Warburton has chosen his team and is sticking to it. If you are right about him sticking to it then he's going to have to find his hat and get them playing or he'll be offski. It was the same stubbornness to change tactics or personnel that pissed me off so much with McCoist. It's like being on auto pilot and failing to do anything different when you see an engines on fire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueballss 2,969 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 barton and niko just dont have the legs for the tempo yesterday, the amount of space we afforded them latterly in the 1st half onwards was staggering Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 He's a decent wee player but the longer he is out the more he becomes Xavi and Iniesta rolled into one. Holt is not the answer to our problems. He will give us more energy in midfield but he's not going to stop the defence being shite or make us score more goals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Amac9 said: He's a decent wee player but the longer he is out the more he becomes Xavi and Iniesta rolled into one. Holt is not the answer to our problems. He will give us more energy in midfield but he's not going to stop the defence being shite or make us score more goals. The top comments shite nobody has ever compared him to these guys, correct he wont stop the defence being shite but he will certainly contribute in assists and chipping in with a few goals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 24 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said: He was part of a high energy, pressing, high tempo midfield last year so yes we miss that energy. I actually feel we may have made a huge mistake signing Barton and Kranjcar (especially if the boss won't drop them). if we had played a midfield 3 of rossiter, windass and holt and pressed the fuck out of them yesterday (also needed more pressing from the forward 3 too) then things wouldn't have been as bad. I hope he gets his chance and I hope he can find his form from last year before his injury. I think you will find the wheels have came right off that high tempo wagon long ago and Holt was part of it. Yes he has attributes, but still as weak as piss compared to what is needed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,495 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 With our system of not having a proper striker, you need a midfielder that will go beyond the opponents defence and into the hole created when your striker moves away, holt does that, windass might do that better, time will tell Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausagetrunks 6,016 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Needs to start ahead of Niko, wonder how many of these players came to Scotland thinking it was going to be a stroll in the park? Barton comes to mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbear 10,913 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 10 minutes ago, sausagetrunks said: Needs to start ahead of Niko, wonder how many of these players came to Scotland thinking it was going to be a stroll in the park? Barton comes to mind. I would think regardless of what they say most get caught out, theres plenty cut it Laudrup, Cannigia most of the Dutch, Albertz etc but the two now at Ibrox add to Rothen, Boli, Capucho,Bernard, Guivarch and loads more looked like fish out of water Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelavic191 4,398 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 He's not the greatest midfielder we have but he does make a lot of intelligent runs off the ball creating little bits of space for other players to move into when we are going forward. There is no one in the team doing that just now at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I think he's the most intelligent footballer in the club, he was at the heart of everything good about our team last season. The perfect player for Warburton philosophy, just hope he see him back quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 One player not going to save this team we are poorer all over the park the lack of investment and bad buys are more evident now, as is the Clueless Manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewaj3 1,444 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Think we should give up on barton and kranjcar and pick from Holt halliday rossiter crooks windass and forrester tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Just now, Smile said: One player not going to save this team we are poorer all over the park the lack of investment and bad buys are more evident now, as is the Clueless Manager. There's a way back for the manager - he needs to inject pace, energy, enthusiasm back into the squad. Holt can do that. We not poorer over the park the last season in terms of players we now have, we either need to change our system and formation or change the personel. We have better players than Sheils, law and clark now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueboyG 5,229 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I think we are missing his tempo, our game is as slow as fuck, the folk who came on here and stated we will win the league are delusional , we have not kicked a ball since the SF against them. Stick to the young players and build on that this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, He's blue he's white said: There's a way back for the manager - he needs to inject pace, energy, enthusiasm back into the squad. Holt can do that. We not poorer over the park the last season in terms of players we now have, we either need to change our system and formation or change the personel. We have better players than Sheils, law and clark now. I don't think he knows what to do i said at the start of the season he has nullified his own system and beat himself, i cant see these better players we have now maybe when they were young but not now. He's clueless and looks lost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanofwright 199 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Love holt but windass is better Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camshy 812 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Holts value to the team seems undervalued to me by the manager, even last year MW hailed players like Dom Ball and Zelalem after every game yet our own scottish players barely got a mention.........and they were head and shoulders above those loan signings who in my opinion barely got pass marks. Holt and Halliday were instrumental in our play last season with their energy and positive movement of the ball.........blatantly lacking those things atm which is poor, the midfield is the cog in our whole style and its broken just now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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