KeyserSoze 14,520 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 When we can't convert these into either goals or shots on target . The gaffer uses these stats like confetti. It is inconsequential to have 60% plus of the ball if it ends up nothing. Nada zilch Feels like he comforts himself with this particular stat. If we have the ball a lot of the time surely we should be shooting, on target more often? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,130 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Pretty sure this was raised since the weekend and now. Regurgitation of known gripes. BD is fun this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,716 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 We'll come good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Hearts will implode around christmas, so we're all good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Statistics mean fuck all. 87% of stats are completely made up. And nothing pisses me off like watching a fucking shite performance to then be hit with a bunch of numbers as if that makes it alright. We're 100% pish there's a stat for you Warburton now fucking sort it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Well it boils down to two key things. 1 - The more you have of the ball the more opportunities you should have to score (In theory) 2 - The more you have of the ball the less opportunities the other team will have to score (In theory) It's not the fact we've got more possession and that's pointless but it's because we don't have it in the opposition's final third and we aren't creating enough chances (I'm aware you've said this), but that is the purpose of playing possession football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,274 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 If we a high possession percentage it means the opposition has less time to hurt us. This is a key factor in how we play at present time because we are less than robust defensively when we don't have the ball. But yes, we need to better convert our possession into goals. We also need to hold possession better when pressurised by the opposition, particularly at key stages in the game. Last season, another apparent benefit of having a high possession percentage was that the opposition seemed to tire significantly in the last 15min or so. However, that doesn't seem so obvious in our games this season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Don't shoot the messenger, but I heard from a very good source we've been training really well this week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Ibroxholm said: If we a high possession percentage it means the opposition has less time to hurt us. This is a key factor in how we play at present time because we are less than robust defensively when we don't have the ball. But yes, we need to better convert our possession into goals. We also need to hold possession better when pressurised by the opposition, particularly at key stages in the game. Last season, another apparent benefit of having a high possession percentage was that the opposition seemed to tire significantly in the last 15min or so. However, that doesn't seem so obvious in our games this season. Agreed but think the opposition tiring had more to do with a poorer standard of fitness staff for the second division sides, also teams pressed slightly more last year (oddly enough) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakbear 3,580 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Warburton on Rangers Tv saying it's all well and good having possession but possession is nothing without penetration. He knows this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Less time for the other team to hurt us. All it takes is 1 second to punt the ball the length of the pitch and they score. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I notice some saying or implying we should not play posesssion football. What are the alternatives. 1. A hump up the park? Tried that for four years, it was a disaster 2. Give the ball away We, as in last season, really need to become better at converting goal scoring opportunities. Another area where, IMO, we are very weak is pressing after we lose posesssion. Watch Barca. When they lose the ball they are immediately on the forward foot pressing high in order to win the ball back. We need to really improve in that area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,077 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 After 7 games, no SPL team has spent less time in a winning position than Rangers. Pick the bones out of that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,274 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: Less time for the other team to hurt us. All it takes is 1 second to punt the ball the length of the pitch and they score. Yes, and the more seconds the opposition have the ball, the more chance this will happen. Having a lot of possession doesn't excuse us from being poor defensively unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeto 112 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I remember we played Steaua Bucharest in a friendly around 1995. They had about 70% of the ball and we beat them 4-0. Every time we got the ball we seemed to score yet they farted around for ages getting nowhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,975 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Possesion is 1 egg of an omelette Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa6995 3,641 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Unless its in key goal scoring areas, it matters not a jot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,520 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 13 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: Another area where, IMO, we are very weak is pressing after we lose posesssion. Watch Barca. When they lose the ball they are immediately on the forward foot pressing high in order to win the ball back. We need to really improve in that area. This was something I really enjoyed watching last season. Chasing down lost balls/winning it back . "You lose it you get it back" This has been removed from our game this season. That's sad tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno's Manbun 2,631 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 33 minutes ago, Jack The Flipper said: Don't shoot the messenger, but I heard from a very good source we've been training really well this week. Kenny's next door neighbour? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 All the possession means fuck all imo having 90% of the possession doesn't make a difference if you're going to let stupid goals in in the 10% that the opposition has. Makes it even scarier to think what would happen if the opposition got more of the ball instead of filling me with confidence as to what we can do when we have it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,602 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 We are digging really low now lad's lets just bring ally back eh get a grip man seriously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,602 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 32 minutes ago, HG5 said: After 7 games, no SPL team has spent less time in a winning position than Rangers. Pick the bones out of that... yet we are only 3points off of 2nd says more about the other teams if ye ask me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLYBOY50 1,638 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 32 minutes ago, siddiqi_drinker said: I notice some saying or implying we should not play posesssion football. What are the alternatives. 1. A hump up the park? Tried that for four years, it was a disaster 2. Give the ball away We, as in last season, really need to become better at converting goal scoring opportunities. Another area where, IMO, we are very weak is pressing after we lose posesssion. Watch Barca. When they lose the ball they are immediately on the forward foot pressing high in order to win the ball back. We need to really improve in that area. I was watching Klopp saying the other day that is the difference with Liverpool this season they have learned to press the opposition all over the park. and if you remember we used to do that in the early part of last season but that part of our game seems too of disappeared. to me we don't seem as fit as we were or certain players are either lazier or just can't cut it at the level needed for the spl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro 32 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Bakbear said: Warburton on Rangers Tv saying it's all well and good having possession but possession is nothing without penetration. He knows this Shame he doesn't practice what he preaches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 51 minutes ago, HG5 said: After 7 games, no SPL team has spent less time in a winning position than Rangers. Pick the bones out of that... In 3 home games we've scored 3 goals. In 3 home games Celtic have scored 15. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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