Smile 26,600 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 53 minutes ago, Creampuff said: He would probably get a chance this season had he stayed here. Maybe a few matches. Out on loan he can play consistent first team football. I don't understand what part of this concept is eluding you. It's very straightforward. The Part where Warburton bloods young players eludes me it was what he said he did and did well. No point you can't seem to get why youth/young players should get experience at their own club performing at this level so they can perform at Rangers, not smaller clubs where expectation is so much different. Expected this i guess. where did i leave that head shaking Gif. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 41 minutes ago, gersandy said: Can i just change the subject. When was the last time we brought through an excellent player? Barry Ferguson. No ones really performed at the level he could. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 5 hours ago, Smile said: Andy Murdoch would have done better than Kranjcar and Barton certainly or certainly could not have been any worse. Young player or semi retired player mmm it's a tough one. Get yourself to fuck You can't be serious Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Skyson1872 said: Get yourself to fuck You can't be serious He can run pass scored that Cracking goal against Raith Rovers that should have been goal of the season made the fabled Scott Allan play wide or kick him fitness wise he would run circles around them as we are seeing happen on a weekly basis. Barton and Kranjcar do not seem to be the players they were but some still buy into it i guess. It's more about Warburton lack of faith in youth than anything else, you cant say you are happy with Barton or Kranjcar input so far can you ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I suppose there must have been very good reasons which we don't know about but I think its a great pity that a loan deal with an English Div 2 / Div 1 club could not have been found for Hardie. I think that regular games in either of these leagues would have brought his game on leaps and bounds assuming he has the talent and temperament to improve that is. Warburton said a few times he felt that loan players preferred to be closer to home and didn't seem to travel well. If loan deals down South had been a realistic possibility for Hardie and he didn't take them then going on loan in Scotland may not advance his case very much. Who knows - only Hardie himself and those in the know on these matters at Rangers. In his current loan arrangement he seems to me - like all the others out on loan in Scotland - that they are in a holding pattern: circling to see if they can exploit their loan situation to force their way into a Rangers first team squad for next season........or exit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyali 248 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 40 minutes ago, Smile said: Barry Ferguson. No ones really performed at the level he could. McGregor? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Just now, bennyali said: McGregor? Couldn't catch a cross ball. He's a good example as well though i would tend to agree but his pulling a ball out the air was always dodgy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanhentze 14,073 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 6 hours ago, Gaz52 said: He's better than Waghorn anyway. Cunts a nightmare unless he's playing sub standard opposition Better than Waghorn? Not a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam English Loyal 945 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Hardie is a great wee player imo but apparently his pitch geography is awful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 10 hours ago, B1872 said: I would've rather bought someone like Grigg and kept Hardie as back up than bought Garner and Dodoo. Mr Warburton may agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Another youth sensation thread - some people on here still think Scotland produces players like Brazil. He's a fuckin mile off what a Rangers no.9 has to be - close the thread and file under gasparotto/sinnamon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergie_6 1,078 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 He should be were he is, on loan, I think after season in the championship he will come back the better for it and ready to replace miller Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,711 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 9 hours ago, Smile said: Barry Ferguson. No ones really performed at the level he could. Murray Park, The Rangers School of Excellence, one player in over 20 years? You have to laugh at it, otherwise you'd be greeting yer eyes oot. BTW When are they gonnae change the name? I've been trying to think of a few names for it, the best I've come up with is........Walter Smith Park. Walter Smith Academy of Football? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, Thewhitesettler said: Murray Park, The Rangers School of Excellence, one player in over 20 years? You have to laugh at it, otherwise you'd be greeting yer eyes oot. BTW When are they gonnae change the name? I've been trying to think of a few names for it, the best I've come up with is........Walter Smith Park. Walter Smith Academy of Football? Since when did Smith bring any youth through and develop them? Need a better name than all that mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,711 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: Since when did Smith bring any youth through and develop them? Need a better name than all that mate I was thinking of honouring a great Rangers managing legend, rather than someone who developed youth players. I'd be thinking a long time, if I was trying to think of someone who brought through great youth players. We're not good at bringing the kids through, but at least they're safe at our club... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Thewhitesettler said: I was thinking of honouring a great Rangers managing legend, rather than someone who developed youth players. I'd be thinking a long time, if I was trying to think of someone who brought through great youth players. We're not good at bringing the kids through, but at least they're safe at our club... If it's to be named after any ex manager I'd say Advocaat as It was him that insisted on it the amount of ambition we have shown through the years since then we would be training on Dumbartons park or something if he never made us build it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,015 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 20 hours ago, DBBTB said: A loan was absolutely the best option for him this season. At his age he needs regular games, not the odd scattering of minutes here and there, and that's all he would have got this season for us because Waghorn & Miller would always be ahead of him in the pecking order. We shouldn't have been so hasty in sending him to St Mirren though because a lot of Premiership clubs ended up needing strikers this summer and a move to a better club would have been even more beneficial. A move to a better club so that he'd again get very few minutes or he'd end up leaving us straight away? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's blue he's white 717 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 12 hours ago, Smile said: He can run pass scored that Cracking goal against Raith Rovers that should have been goal of the season made the fabled Scott Allan play wide or kick him fitness wise he would run circles around them as we are seeing happen on a weekly basis. Barton and Kranjcar do not seem to be the players they were but some still buy into it i guess. It's more about Warburton lack of faith in youth than anything else, you cant say you are happy with Barton or Kranjcar input so far can you ? Lack of faith in youth - average age of Holt Haliday Wes Windass Crooks Rossiter Dodoo Waggy Afraid 'our' youth are simply not good enough at the min Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JograBear 1,072 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 5 hours ago, Thewhitesettler said: I've been trying to think of a few names for it, the best I've come up with is........Walter Smith Park. Walter Smith Academy of Football? Is that the same Walter Smith who didn't bring any youth through the ranks and bought his teams? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 9 hours ago, Thewhitesettler said: Murray Park, The Rangers School of Excellence, one player in over 20 years? You have to laugh at it, otherwise you'd be greeting yer eyes oot. BTW When are they gonnae change the name? I've been trying to think of a few names for it, the best I've come up with is........Walter Smith Park. Walter Smith Academy of Football? That's something that needs to be changed, Murray park is not being used to it's full potential. I agree the name needs changing How about keeping it simple and naming it Rangers Academy of Football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,711 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 4 hours ago, JograBear said: Is that the same Walter Smith who didn't bring any youth through the ranks and bought his teams? It's the same Walter Smith that was here for 9 in a row! Every Rangers manager has bought their team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 22 hours ago, johanhentze said: Better than Waghorn? Not a chance. He certainly is and every week he is on loan he improves exponentially, the new Ryan Sinnamon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig53 326 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On 9/30/2016 at 11:00 AM, BF2 said: He seemed to always score whenever he played. Disappointed he's been punted out on loan 2 seasons in a row. Scored 2 against Dumbarton in one game, not sure he scored after that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietspam 733 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I'd rather he played every week in competitive football than sitting on the bench. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtanian 252 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Can't see him getting his chance tbh if MW rated him he would have him in the squad by now, he will probably get another loan move and will no doubt get all the plaudits in the championship then just become another youth player who didn't make it at our club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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