Raligt 2,541 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Whats your thoughts on him? Still only 19, has scored a few goals for us and at St Mirren and Raith Rovers. With more game time he could possibly be a great striker for us in the future. Wrong to send him on loan when he could've been an option this season before we brought in Garner and Dodoo. Possibly would be more effective in games than MoH given time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 He seemed to always score whenever he played. Disappointed he's been punted out on loan 2 seasons in a row. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Probably best him being out on loan. Wouldn't have got a look in this season with 4 strikers ahead of him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Don't know why he'd be more effective than MoH, I'd say he'd be more effective than Miller! As he's still scoring goals and been called up to the Under 19 Scotland squad, would really like to see him given a chance second half of this season (believe loan is only to end of year) and if he does well could be more important to us next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal 547 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Boy in my work follows st mirren everywhere and says he's going to be a top player. Also rates Walsh very highly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,548 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 A loan was absolutely the best option for him this season. At his age he needs regular games, not the odd scattering of minutes here and there, and that's all he would have got this season for us because Waghorn & Miller would always be ahead of him in the pecking order. We shouldn't have been so hasty in sending him to St Mirren though because a lot of Premiership clubs ended up needing strikers this summer and a move to a better club would have been even more beneficial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy1984 6,314 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Hopefully the first team experience he's gaining will help him and benefit us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 A loan was the right move but it should have been to a spfl level club rather than st mirren imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF2 WINNIE 1,006 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Mr Warburton clearly rates him look how many youngsters he has released/sold needs to be getting regular game time and is getting that at st Midden hopefully comes back a better player for the experience and makes a difference for us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartM6 279 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Sure I'd seen a stat saying he'd started 18 professional games and has scored 13. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggy1872 427 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 St mirren are pish so if he's still scoring in that team can only be a good thing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseboy 1,563 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 25 minutes ago, Jackal said: Boy in my work follows st mirren everywhere and says he's going to be a top player. Also rates Walsh very highly. Absolutely agree with Walsh, think he is a great player, so comfortable on the ball. I really think he should be playing with us just now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 If he was that good, he'd be in the team. Young players get overhyped on here, because were all dying to see a superb player coming through at the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, gersandy said: If he was that good, he'd be in the team. Young players get overhyped on here, because were all dying to see a superb player coming through at the club. Charlie Telfer, Calum Gallagher, Andy Mitchell, Andy Murdoch and Jordan McMillan all agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,940 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Scored a belter at the weekend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,442 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I would've rather bought someone like Grigg and kept Hardie as back up than bought Garner and Dodoo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
will2203 806 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, The Dude said: Charlie Telfer, Calum Gallagher, Andy Mitchell, Andy Murdoch and Jordan McMillan all agree. To the best of my knowledge none of these guys are excelling elsewhere. High hopes for young Ryan, so fingers crossed he continues to develop. We don't have an out and out striker at the moment but he will benefit from game time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 We have brought in average players over him who lack pace and basic control, should have got his chance after good season at Rovers. Warburton and his youth policy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 30 minutes ago, The Dude said: Charlie Telfer, Calum Gallagher, Andy Mitchell, Andy Murdoch and Jordan McMillan all agree. Andy Murdoch would have done better than Kranjcar and Barton certainly or certainly could not have been any worse. Young player or semi retired player mmm it's a tough one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,623 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Clever little player with an eye for goal but his general play is horrific. Won't make it for us, but he'll be spl level eventually I think. Its about long term improvement of our youth system for me, not giving this batch a run in the side - one Lewis Macleod every 5 years is criminal for a club our size but with our financial limitations because of our league. If we're to go beyond where we were in 2011 a quality youth system will be a staple of that success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Smile said: Andy Murdoch would have done better than Kranjcar and Barton certainly or certainly could not have been any worse. Young player or semi retired player mmm it's a tough one. He couldn't get a game at QOTS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Smile said: We have brought in average players over him who lack pace and basic control, should have got his chance after good season at Rovers. Warburton and his youth policy. I've yet to see him at a U20s game yet. I remember that was a massive problem before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Dude said: He couldn't get a game at QOTS I dont think Kranjcar or Barton could either the way they play. Murdoch did well when he played for us certainly better than these two who seem to have retired already. What happened to developing the youth giving young players a chance, it's what McCoist was judged on that and signing older players, the goalposts have moved on that Argument now though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, The Dude said: I've yet to see him at a U20s game yet. I remember that was a massive problem before. That's the thing posters keep on moving the goalposts on argument to suit the Manager they back at the time, they should still have the same views. It's the same with Warburton signing so many injured/overage players that was quite rightly a crime with the last board and Manager now it's fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 He's better than Waghorn anyway. Cunts a nightmare unless he's playing sub standard opposition Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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