Smile 26,592 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 What about the poor Nurses i hear them cry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Bears Den? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Yep and they all sat back and let a known crook run up tax debts by not paying the players NI, they called the SFA in September yet he never paid a penny and they did nothing until we went into admin February yet Rangers football club got the blame and thrown to the wolfs If we win the big tax case then all hell is gonna break loose as it was a vendetta by our enemy's that got the whole thing going, Murray even offered X amount and they knocked it back over the ebt's, then most of that bill was fines they kept imposing on Murray for not paying. As I said what happens if we win the Supreme Court case as its 50/50 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, Smile said: What about the poor Nurses i hear them cry. It should be exposed, our club was singled out. OOooo look the papers advertising free turkey, i suppose there'll be a lot of them running about soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 15,965 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sweetheart said: It should be exposed, our club was singled out. OOooo look the papers advertising free turkey, i suppose there'll be a lot of them running about soon. Free turkey? Bought buy sellik, sold a week later for 25 Squillion Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,561 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Noticed that on the paper review and I said bastards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wully 46,788 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, dummiesoot said: Free turkey? Bought buy sellik, sold a week later for 25 Squillion My Sky sports app told me Arsenal, Bayern and Real Madrid want the new Drogba......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, BEE said: Bears Den? So you think this has nothing to do with Rangers ? Honestly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettertogether 381 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, wully said: My Sky sports app told me Arsenal, Bayern and Real Madrid want the new Drogba......... His big toe is worth 15m just saying like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,449 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I can't read that. but she does look like George and they are definitely Williams weans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, HuistraHairDo said: I can't read that. but she does look like George and they are definitely Williams weans. You double click on the picture mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunk and disorderly. 14,208 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Shouldn't they be relegated for that? ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,449 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 stella, charlie and mary jayne loyal. see what a mean tried to quote you there...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poetry_In_Blue 1,043 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Copland bear said: Yep and they all sat back and let a known crook run up tax debts by not paying the players NI, they called the SFA in September yet he never paid a penny until we went into admin yet February yet Rangers football club got the blame and thrown to the wolfs If we win the big tax case then all hell is gonna break loose as it was a vendetta by our enemy's that got the whole thing going, Murray even offered X amount and they knocked it back over the ebt's, then most of that bill was fines they kept imposing on Murray for not paying. As I said what happens if we win the Supreme Court case as its 50/50 We didn't lose last time for legal reasons, we lost for "moral reasons" by some shitty judging panel, if this next stage actually stick to law then we shouldn't lose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Educator 1,572 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Just look at the amount Mr Ecleston got away with. HMRC don't do deals was what we were being told while they were really doing deals with everybody including the filth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebovril 110 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 4 hours ago, Poetry_In_Blue said: We didn't lose last time for legal reasons, we lost for "moral reasons" by some shitty judging panel, if this next stage actually stick to law then we shouldn't lose. Exactly mate.why do you think hmrc are up here challenging this particular ebt it's because They can't win this ebt in England. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,010 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Not sure I see what the big scandal is tbh. Reeks of the Daily Mail (those well respected investigative journalists ) trying to find anything they possibly can to hang onto the coattails of the Telegraph's 'corruption in football' story. However, when you read beyond the headline it says a tribunal judged in 1997 that clubs could treat image rights payments differently to wages. So this is hardly the unearthing of secret 'sweetheart deals' despite how the Daily Mail are trying to portray it. IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Yeah they can pay them a fifth of their earnings to a image rights. There's a cap on how much the club can pay to these companies in total, though. As Amato says, this isn't even almost a new development. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Also anyone trying to draw a reasonable comparison between this and our tax case is a moron. No offence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris182 6,186 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 A tad hypocritical Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 9 minutes ago, Creampuff said: Also anyone trying to draw a reasonable comparison between this and our tax case is a moron. No offence. I don't think many would directly compare them as they are totally different circumstances. However, if HMRC are going to use 'moral' arguments like the last appeal tribunal done with us then it has to be applied to HMRC as well. There is no consistency from a moral viewpoint on how HMRC conduct their affairs. This isn't the only example, there are loads of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Just now, Loyal Bear 72 said: I don't think many would directly compare them as they are totally different circumstances. If HMRC are going to use a 'moral' argument like the last appeal tribunal done with us then it has to be applied to HMRC as well. There is no consistency from a moral viewpoint on how HMRC conduct their affairs. This isn't the only example, there are loads. This has nothing to do with HMRC acting immorally. It's a tribunal decision that they need to accept. By telling people about it they're doing their job of informing the taxpayer, which they are required to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, Creampuff said: This has nothing to do with HMRC acting immorally. It's a tribunal decision that they need to accept. By telling people about it they're doing their job of informing the taxpayer, which they are required to do. The tribunal decision from 1997 is what HMRC are saying they are bound by. That's not what I would argue with. It's more what they have agreed with individual clubs since then. Also, the article states: "An HMRC spokesman said: ‘HMRC does not do deals. Image rights payments are always taxable.’" Of course they do and no-one is arguing the payments aren't taxable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 12 hours ago, Copland bear said: Yep and they all sat back and let a known crook run up tax debts by not paying the players NI, they called the SFA in September yet he never paid a penny and they did nothing until we went into admin February yet Rangers football club got the blame and thrown to the wolfs If we win the big tax case then all hell is gonna break loose as it was a vendetta by our enemy's that got the whole thing going, Murray even offered X amount and they knocked it back over the ebt's, then most of that bill was fines they kept imposing on Murray for not paying. As I said what happens if we win the Supreme Court case as its 50/50 God I hope your right CB?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,453 Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 HMRC have and always do, do deals. We must literally have been the first going concern that they never entertained any kind of deal and were attempting to pursue the entire amount plus interest. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous what happened to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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