K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 The best team won. We didn't even look close to winning that game today. We were happy sitting deep trying to catch them on a lucky break. That's OK doing that during the Smith days when we had Gough & Brown in central defence with Goram (albiet I think Gilks did well enough today) and midfielders like Gascoigne, Albertz, Laudrup who could break and the likes of McCoist or Hateley or could stick them away. I know it's different times and we don't have that aforementioned quality which leads me on to my next point - we had zero quality anywhere on that pitch. It's blatantly obvious. Celtic aren't even a good team - they were there for the taking but we have zero quality that can take advantage of that. Again, King - over to you pal and your promises, although I won't hold my breath. Our defence actually had a decent enough game today even of Hill got lucky for the disallowed goal and Wallace made a cunt of it for the late Celtic winner but ultimately the goal came from a defensive error which is too much of a regular occurrance with us to be bad luck or coincidence. Now onto Warburton ... I said at the start of the game when the team was confirmed that that was a fucking ridiculous team selection and I stand by that 100%. Don't let the fact that the winner went in in something like 87 minutes fool you into thinking it was a close game and we were unlucky - we weren't - we showed fuck-all. The only issue with our 4-3-3 isn't the formation in principle it's the fact that 3 inter-changable fowards are everywhere but inside the box. We didn't look any more like scoring today with a flooded midfield and Miller upfront himself. Then the master-stroke to win us the game ... bring on Jo Dodoo ... Jo fucking Dodoo. I am not a big O'Halloran fan by any means but since we were playing the counter-attacking game then why not him for his pace? and sooner rather than later ahead of that wee McKay who does literally fuck-all. All Garner does is go flying in and get defenders blood pressure up .. some folk love that. For me it has it's up sides but I'd rather see someone who can actually fucking play a bit and didn't cost almost 2 million. I'm not calling for Warburton to go (yet) but games like today he does himself no favours when he's no further forward in his own mind for a strongest XI and tinkers in our biggest game of the season and most realistic chance of winning silverware. Him and Weir and not the Greek-God's the fanbase think they are. But sacking them? bit soon for that ... Thin ice for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,011 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 We are a good Championship side, someone needs to tell he boss we don't play in that league anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40delboy40 248 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just now, K.A.I said: The best team won. We didn't even look close to winning that game today. We were happy sitting deep trying to catch them on a lucky break. That's OK doing that during the Smith days when we had Gough & Brown in central defence with Goram (albiet I think Gilks did well enough today) and midfielders like Gascoigne, Albertz, Laudrup who could break and the likes of McCoist or Hateley or could stick them away. I know it's different times and we don't have that which leads me on to my next point - we have zero quality anywhere on that pitch. It's blatantly obvious. Celtic aren't even a good team - they were there for the taking but we have zero quality that can take advantage of that. Again, King - over to you pal and your promises, although I won't hold my breath. Our defence actually had a decent enough game today even of Hill got lucky for the disallowed goal and Wallace made a cunt of it for the late Celtic winner but ultimately the goal came from a defensive error which is too much of a regular occurrance with us to be bad luck or coincidence. Now onto Warburton ... I said at the start of the game when the team was confirmed that that was a fucking ridiculous team selection and I stand by that 100%. Don't let the fact that the winner went in in something like 87 minutes fool you into thinking it was a close game and we were unlucky - we weren't - we showed fuck-all. The only issue with our 4-3-3 isn't the formation in principle it's the fact that 3 inter-changable fowards are everywhere but inside the box. We didn't look any more like scoring today with a flooded midfield and Miller upfront himself. Then the master-stroke to win us the game ... bring on Jo Dodoo ... Jo fucking Dodoo. I am not a big O'Halloran fan by any means but since we were playing the counter-attacking game then why not him for his pace? and sooner rather than later ahead of that wee McKay who does literally fuck-all. All Garner does is go flying in and get defenders blood pressure up .. some folk love that. For me it has it's up sides but I'd rather see someone who can actually fucking play a bit and didn't cost almost 2 million. I'm not calling for Warburton to go (yet) but games like today he does himself no favours when he's no further forward in his own mind for a strongest XI and tinkers in our biggest game of the season and most realistic chance of winning silverware. Him and Weir and not the Greek-God's the fanbase think they are. But sacking them? bit soon for that ... Thin ice for me. saved me posting exact same thing, spot on sir. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Celtic aren't even a good team - they were there for the taking but we have zero quality that can take advantage of that. Again, King - over to you pal and your promises, although I won't hold my breath. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdee.rfc 448 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Horrible to see but agree in most parts ! Warburton has a massive part to play today and got it so wrong on so many levels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBearz1990 570 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 We've not got a good enough team yet, it's obvious to us by now that we're still in the rebuilding process. I think we did good a lot of time defensively, but zero strength going forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron1873 509 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Fs you couldn't have even let the game finish before you started writing that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,507 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Our 2 best players today were Gilks and Hodson. They'll both be dropped for the next game and we'll revert back to the same old predictable lineup. Sums up our management really. We can make all the excuses about lack of funding etc but the fact is he can't even make the best use of what he has. I think it might be time to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,947 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I can accept we don't have great players, but I struggle at times with what a Warburton does. He doesn't have any experience winning things and I think he is too focused on doing what is RIGHT ( at least in his eyes )  instead of doing what is NEEDED. We lack aggression and composure. McKay should have been off at half time given the way the game was going and MOH on.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitzer007 198 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 We were second best all over the pitch and got off lightly today. January window will be interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mols94 3,663 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I keep hearing that celtic aren't that good of a team. The point is they don't need to be, they just need to be better than us and at the minute their miles ahead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Custer 516 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 What a waste of limited funds that Garner looks. I cannot see what he brings to the team. And the worst thing is lazy off the ball and doesn't look like he gives a fuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evenstevens 869 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 What freaked me out was how many times they got secure possession high up the pitch and were able to attack our back 4. That's a tactical thing and it's happened the last 3 games v them. 433 only works if you dominate the ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,594 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Disappointing performance..offered  nothing and in the end the best team won  MW seriously has to look to DW for experience and adapt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gersandy 594 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Dare i say it. I though Hill and Keirnan looked solid enough today (bar a couple of wayward passes). Gilks is a much better shot stopper than Foderingham. Hodson looked good aswell. We have a bit of work to do, but theres a team there. Its a sore one to take, but i dont think its panic stations just yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Imo, the game plan was there, we just don't have the players to execute it. Umpteen times today all we needed was a cool head and a good pass and we were in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amac9 2,060 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Thumped 1-0. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 We need an overhaul, of everything. Starting from the board to the groundsmen, everything has been shite and last years good results papered over those cracks. Board is full of dicks with no backbone or financial commitment, management have totally underestimated this season and the job is far to big for the both of them, majority of these players are utter shitebags too. I could sit and list all the problems in detail but I'd be here all fucking day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,507 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 1 minute ago, General Custer said: What a waste of limited funds that Garner looks. I cannot see what he brings to the team. And the worst thing is lazy off the ball and doesn't look like he gives a fuck He's a good player but one who doesn't fit into our style of play whatsoever. If we change how we play then I believe he would thrive and score goals for us but Warburton won't change it which makes Garner a waste of money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, K.A.I said: The best team won. We didn't even look close to winning that game today. We were happy sitting deep trying to catch them on a lucky break. That's OK doing that during the Smith days when we had Gough & Brown in central defence with Goram (albiet I think Gilks did well enough today) and midfielders like Gascoigne, Albertz, Laudrup who could break and the likes of McCoist or Hateley or could stick them away. I know it's different times and we don't have that aforementioned quality which leads me on to my next point - we had zero quality anywhere on that pitch. It's blatantly obvious. Celtic aren't even a good team - they were there for the taking but we have zero quality that can take advantage of that. Again, King - over to you pal and your promises, although I won't hold my breath. Our defence actually had a decent enough game today even of Hill got lucky for the disallowed goal and Wallace made a cunt of it for the late Celtic winner but ultimately the goal came from a defensive error which is too much of a regular occurrance with us to be bad luck or coincidence. Now onto Warburton ... I said at the start of the game when the team was confirmed that that was a fucking ridiculous team selection and I stand by that 100%. Don't let the fact that the winner went in in something like 87 minutes fool you into thinking it was a close game and we were unlucky - we weren't - we showed fuck-all. The only issue with our 4-3-3 isn't the formation in principle it's the fact that 3 inter-changable fowards are everywhere but inside the box. We didn't look any more like scoring today with a flooded midfield and Miller upfront himself. Then the master-stroke to win us the game ... bring on Jo Dodoo ... Jo fucking Dodoo. I am not a big O'Halloran fan by any means but since we were playing the counter-attacking game then why not him for his pace? and sooner rather than later ahead of that wee McKay who does literally fuck-all. All Garner does is go flying in and get defenders blood pressure up .. some folk love that. For me it has it's up sides but I'd rather see someone who can actually fucking play a bit and didn't cost almost 2 million. I'm not calling for Warburton to go (yet) but games like today he does himself no favours when he's no further forward in his own mind for a strongest XI and tinkers in our biggest game of the season and most realistic chance of winning silverware. Him and Weir and not the Greek-God's the fanbase think they are. But sacking them? bit soon for that ... Thin ice for me. I believe we are 3/4 quality players away from challenging them we need to get back to the standard of players we had pre admin. Until then we will struggle Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Middle to front more insipid than usual,I think that was down to the way we set up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewhitesettler 2,711 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I knew those bastards would score near the end. Terry Butcher is a fucking disgrace, for an ex captain to be coming out with his shit was shocking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKingObv 10,599 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Garner looks like he's not played football before Awful signing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
totobull 17 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Furious aye!!! Gutted no I am beginning to just accept this. Â Unbelievable my week would have been fucked now it's just a game. Always next time eh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, cameron1873 said: Fs you couldn't have even let the game finish before you started writing that What parts do you disagree with? Starting typing about a minute into the 4 minutes of injury time. Why's that an issue? did you think we were going to break and produce a bit of magic around or inside the box and neatly finish to level the game aye? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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