The Gap Excuse

[Johnmon 12]

Time to drop the "Gap" crap. It does not always take money to win a Championship. Ranieri and Clough in England, Ferguson at Aberdeen. They all beat higher spending teams by teamwork.

8 of the Sunday Celtic squad cost in total 1.7m. Put aside the three who cost over 3m.

Gordon Free

Tierney No Cost

Lustig Free

Toure Free

Bitton 700k

Rogic 500k

Dembele 500k

Forest No Cost

Total Cost 1.7m

 

About the same amount was used to buy Joe Garner. A Preston player purchased on the back of scoring 6 goals in a year. The same total scored by Dembele in 3 games against Rangers and Man City.

My point.... A good manager chooses players very wisely. He Man Manages his men and instills a winning mentality. 

So far, Mark Warburton's player choices and man management have not made the required standard. The money Gap is there for sure, but history has shown that money is not the only way to win at football.

January offers a last chance for Warbs to prove he has the ability. Low cost players can and should be sourced. Deadwood should be shipped. Let us see what you are really capable of.

 

[kaiser1041 9,088]

Taig

[Gman36 3,455]

You're right we should've coaxed fergie out of retirement and pushed him to sign Dembele.... Seems obvious really. 

[Louden_Greg 827]

Just now, Gman36 said:

You're right we should've coaxed fergie out of retirement and pushed him to sign Dembele.... Seems obvious really. 

32k a week and 500k fee is nothing to us ?

[graeme_4 34,461]

You are conveniently ignoring wages, and the carrot of Champions league football.

Like it or not, they are the reigning champions and have been for many years. They are more attractive for a neutral player. 

There's not a lot between some of theirs and our players, but they have supplemented it with quality. Sinclair and their CB were both in the £3.5m bracket, Sinclair in particular will command a hefty wage - as will Dembele and Toure. They are also paying a proven Premier League manager in the region of £2.5 million per season. 

Bottom line is we cannot complete until we are:

a. Stabilised in this league

b. In Europe

c. Willing to match (or come close) to their level of investment in their first team squad

 

 

[kaiser1041 9,088]

1 minute ago, Louden_Greg said:

32k a week and 500k fee is nothing to us ?

He's also conveniently left out the big transfer fees for the thumb,Sinclair,simounovic and any other faux leprechaun that was bought

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

Can't believe we got beat by 8 men that's a fucking riddy.

[linfield1690 4,249]

Get tae fuck

[LochendBilly 8,413]

Why are we discussing the bheasts in here? I feel manky now.

[Supersonic 4,654]

Big Efe: Priceless!

[BlueSuedeSambas 53,775]

 

25 minutes ago, OhW said:

Why name only 8 players? Oh that's right, Sviatchenko cost them £1.5m and Simunovic about £3m. 

Along with Brown and Sinclair who cost them nearly 8 million 

[RangersMedia 35,961]

I think in government/media this is called a spin on the facts.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

How can you compare the price then  conveniently put aside three players over 3 mill. 

If we had 3 players in our team which cost around 10mill there wouldn't be any gap. 

 

[linfield1690 4,249]

Cunts still watching the thread @gogzy

[Billy1984 6,314]

29 minutes ago, Johnmon said:

It does not always take money to win a Championship. Ranieri and Clough in England, Ferguson at Aberdeen. They all beat higher spending teams by teamwork.

Take a look at the cost of 8 of the Sunday Celtic squad. Put aside the three who cost over 3m.

Gordon Free

Tierney No Cost

Lustig Free

Toure Free

Bitton 700k

Rogic 500k

Dembele 500k

Forest No Cost

Total Cost 1.7m

 

Ironically, a similar amount was used to buy Joe Garner. A Preston player purchased on the back of scoring 6 goals in a year. The same amount scored by Dembele in 3 games against Rangers and Man City.

My point.... A good manager chooses players very wisely. He Man Manages his men and instills a winning mentality. 

As much as I really like Mark Warburton his player choices and man management are not hitting the required bases. The money Gap is there for sure, but history has shown that money is not the only way to win at football.

January offers a last chance for Warbs to prove he has the ability. Low cost players can be sourced and deadwood can be shipped.

 

Do you use your priest as an excuse for you having a big gap between your arse cheeks?

[pollok-bear 7,537]

I never say this much but Bears den? 

[Dazzler 2,428]

40 minutes ago, Johnmon said:

It does not always take money to win a Championship. Ranieri and Clough in England, Ferguson at Aberdeen. They all beat higher spending teams by teamwork.

Take a look at the cost of 8 of the Sunday Celtic squad. Put aside the three who cost over 3m.

Gordon Wank

Tierney Wank

Lustig Wank

Toure Wank

Bitton Wank

Rogic Wank

Dembele Wank

Forest Wank

Total Cost loads of wanks

 

Ironically, a similar amount was used to buy Joe Garner (Good guy). A Preston player purchased on the back of scoring 6 goals in a year. The same amount scored by Dembele in 3 games against Rangers and Man City.

My point.... A good manager chooses players very wisely. He Man Manages his men and instills a winning mentality. 

As much as I really like Mark Warburton (Good guy) his player choices and man management are not hitting the required bases. The money Gap is there for sure, but history has shown that money is not the only way to win at football.

January offers a last chance for Warbs to prove he has the ability. Low cost players can be sourced and deadwood can be shipped.

 

Fixed the post for you.

[RangersMedia 35,961]

Figures off Wikipedia

Gilks (£0) - (£0) Gordon
Hodson (£0.25) - (£0) Lustig
Kiernan (£0.22) - (£3.0) Simonuvic
Hill  (£0) - (£1.5) Sviatchenko
Wallace (£1.5) - (£0) Tierney
Windass (£0.06) - (£4.0) Brown
Halliday (£0) - (£0.7) Bitton
Holt (£0.06) - (£0) Forrest
Tavernier (£0.2)  - (£0.5) Rogic
Miller (£0) - (£3.5) Sinclair
McKay (£0) - (£0.5) Dembele
 £2.29m Total £13.7m

SUBS
Foderingham (£0) - (£0) De Vries
Senderos (£0) - (£0) Toure
Crooks (£0.06) - (loan) Roberts*
Waghorn (£0.2) - (£0) McGregor
O'Halloran (£0.5) - (£2.0) Armstrong
Dodoo (£0.25) - (UD) Gamboa**
Garner (£1.5) - (£1.0) Griffiths
£2.51m Total £3.0

£4.8m OVERALL £16.7m

*Roberts cost £12m on his last transfer. **The undisclosed fee for Gamboa is likely to be under £0.5m and not included

Celtic had 3 home grown players in there squad, we had 1.

This isn't accounting for wages either, which will have a huge gap between them.

Then the guys who were not in squad

Cash signings injured/out of favour/loaned out

Rangers
Rossiter (£0,25)
Total (£0.25m)
Overall Total Squad Spend (£5.05m)

Celtic
Ajer (£0.8)
Izzaguirre (£0.6)
Ambrose (£1.5)
Boyata (£1.5)
Commons (£0.3)
Christie (£0.5)
MacKay-Steven (£0.25)
Ciftci (£1.5)
Allan (£0.275)
Total (£7.725,)
Overall Total Squad Spend (£24.5m)
 

[cushynumber 25,178]

22 minutes ago, Badger said:

Figures off Wikipedia

Gilks (£0) - (£0) Gordon
Hodson (£0.25) - (£0) Lustig
Kiernan (£0.22) - (£3.0) Simonuvic
Hill  (£0) - (£1.5) Sviatchenko
Wallace (£1.5) - (£0) Tierney
Windass (£0.06) - (£4.0) Brown
Halliday (£0) - (£0.7) Bitton
Holt (£0.06) - (£0) Forrest
Tavernier (£0.2)  - (£0.5) Rogic
Miller (£0) - (£3.5) Sinclair
McKay (£0) - (£0.5) Dembele
 £2.29m Total £13.7m

SUBS
Foderingham (£0) - (£0) De Vries
Senderos (£0) - (£0) Toure
Crooks (£0.06) - (loan) Roberts*
Waghorn (£0.2) - (£0) McGregor
O'Halloran (£0.5) - (£2.0) Armstrong
Dodoo (£0.25) - (UD) Gamboa**
Garner (£1.5) - (£1.0) Griffiths
£2.51m Total £3.0

£4.8m OVERALL £16.7m

*Roberts cost £12m on his last transfer. **The undisclosed fee for Gamboa is likely to be under £0.5m and not included

Celtic had 3 home grown players in there squad, we had 1.

This isn't accounting for wages either, which will have a huge gap between them.

Then the guys who were not in squad

Cash signings injured/out of favour/loaned out

Rangers
Rossiter (£0,25)
Total (£0.25m)
Overall Total Squad Spend (£5.05m)

Celtic
Ajer (£0.8)
Izzaguirre (£0.6)
Ambrose (£1.5)
Boyata (£1.5)
Commons (£0.3)
Christie (£0.5)
MacKay-Steven (£0.25)
Ciftci (£1.5)
Allan (£0.275)
Total (£7.725,)
Overall Total Squad Spend (£24.5m)

end thread. Oh and wages, wages, wages.

 

[Turnberry18 3,204]

51 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

You are conveniently ignoring wages, and the carrot of Champions league football.

Like it or not, they are the reigning champions and have been for many years. They are more attractive for a neutral player. 

There's not a lot between some of theirs and our players, but they have supplemented it with quality. Sinclair and their CB were both in the £3.5m bracket, Sinclair in particular will command a hefty wage - as will Dembele and Toure. They are also paying a proven Premier League manager in the region of £2.5 million per season. 

Bottom line is we cannot complete until we are:

a. Stabilised in this league

b. In Europe

c. Willing to match (or come close) to their level of investment in their first team squad

 

 

Great post.

[Jack The Flipper 5,936]

59 minutes ago, graeme_4 said:

You are conveniently ignoring wages, and the carrot of Champions league football.

Like it or not, they are the reigning champions and have been for many years. They are more attractive for a neutral player. 

There's not a lot between some of theirs and our players, but they have supplemented it with quality. Sinclair and their CB were both in the £3.5m bracket, Sinclair in particular will command a hefty wage - as will Dembele and Toure. They are also paying a proven Premier League manager in the region of £2.5 million per season. 

Bottom line is we cannot complete until we are:

a. Stabilised in this league

b. In Europe

c. Willing to match (or come close) to their level of investment in their first team squad

 

 

Disagree, a neutral player should be put off with the inherent paedophilia in celtic football club.

There's plenty reasons for a neutral to select us over them even currently.

[plumbGER 24,518]

1 hour ago, Johnmon said:

Time to drop the "Gap" crap. It does not always take money to win a Championship. Ranieri and Clough in England, Ferguson at Aberdeen. They all beat higher spending teams by teamwork.

8 of the Sunday Celtic squad cost in total 1.7m. Put aside the three who cost over 3m.

Gordon Free

Tierney No Cost

Lustig Free

Toure Free

Bitton 700k

Rogic 500k

Dembele 500k

Forest No Cost

Total Cost 1.7m

 

About the same amount was used to buy Joe Garner. A Preston player purchased on the back of scoring 6 goals in a year. The same total scored by Dembele in 3 games against Rangers and Man City.

My point.... A good manager chooses players very wisely. He Man Manages his men and instills a winning mentality. 

So far, Mark Warburton's player choices and man management have not made the required standard. The money Gap is there for sure, but history has shown that money is not the only way to win at football.

January offers a last chance for Warbs to prove he has the ability. Low cost players can and should be sourced. Deadwood should be shipped. Let us see what you are really capable of.

 

Maybe you will have a long enough gap between breathing to stop being alive.

[Leeds_Bear 8,110]

1 hour ago, Johnmon said:

Time to drop the "Gap" crap. It does not always take money to win a Championship. Ranieri and Clough in England, Ferguson at Aberdeen. They all beat higher spending teams by teamwork.

8 of the Sunday Celtic squad cost in total 1.7m. Put aside the three who cost over 3m.

Gordon Free

Tierney No Cost

Lustig Free

Toure Free

Bitton 700k

Rogic 500k

Dembele 500k

Forest No Cost

Total Cost 1.7m

 

About the same amount was used to buy Joe Garner. A Preston player purchased on the back of scoring 6 goals in a year. The same total scored by Dembele in 3 games against Rangers and Man City.

My point.... A good manager chooses players very wisely. He Man Manages his men and instills a winning mentality. 

So far, Mark Warburton's player choices and man management have not made the required standard. The money Gap is there for sure, but history has shown that money is not the only way to win at football.

January offers a last chance for Warbs to prove he has the ability. Low cost players can and should be sourced. Deadwood should be shipped. Let us see what you are really capable of.

 

A shit point, poorly made. 

[Jack The Flipper 5,936]

5 minutes ago, plumbGER said:

Maybe you will have a long enough gap between breathing to stop being alive.

Noo that's no nice, some folk do have half a brain just like Hartson, those people should be pitied not lambasted or made a fool of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pfft

[plumbGER 24,518]

6 minutes ago, Jack The Flipper said:

Noo that's no nice, some folk do have half a brain just like Hartson, those people should be pitied not lambasted or made a fool of.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pfft

Or 8/11ths of a brain