Sturgeon. Clubs not to be included in historical abuse enquiry

[Virtuoso 27,180]

Quelle surprise...

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First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has rejected calls for the Scottish inquiry into historical child sexual abuse to be widened to include football clubs.

Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale had asked her during first minister's questions about revelations of abuse in Scottish football clubs.

But Ms SturgeoLater, the Scottish Labour leader said the inquiry should cover "all survivors" of abuse.

Ms Dugdale said: "Former footballers have found the courage to come forward and disclose how they suffered abuse at the hands of paedophile coaches.

"Yet they will not be able to bring their cases to the Scottish Child Abuse Inquiry because they were not in care when they were abused. This is true for all those who suffered abuse in youth groups, parishes or other sports clubs."

She added: "Survivors of child abuse deserve justice and the wait for the inquiry has already been too long. It holds out the promise of justice, but in restricting just who - and what - will be investigated, it will deny that justice."

Football authorities

Meanwhile, a former chief executive of the Scottish Football Association (SFA) has called for an inquiry into historical sexual abuse.

Gordon Smith told the BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland programme it should look at how clubs and national bodies responded to allegations.

His comments came after Partick Thistle confirmed that a physiotherapist was dismissed from Firhill in 1992.

The club said it acted immediately after allegations of abuse were made.

It said it had now informed the police and the football authorities.n said the Scottish government did not intend to widen the inquiry's remit.

The inquiry under judge Lady Smith will examine the abuse of children in care.

Speaking at First Minister's Questions, Ms Sturgeon said: "To widen the remit of that inquiry would mean that it would take perhaps many years longer to conclude its investigations and would risk it becoming completely unwieldy.

"We would be at risk I think of breaking our word to the survivors of in-care abuse.

"My view is we should allow that inquiry to get on with its job and we should allow the police to get on with their job of investigating allegations of abuse in football."

Mr Smith said: "There should be an inquiry, an inquiry into anybody who knew anything about this sort of thing.

"If this was happening at a club, what action did they take?

"We're now finding out some of the cases down in England where the club tried to hush the situation, even paid a player money to not say anything about it."

The English Football Association has commissioned an independent investigation into the way it dealt with abuse allegations.

Partick Thistle have not named the physiotherapist accused of carrying out abuse or made clear if he was reported to the authorities at the time.

He has subsequently been named as John Hart, who died in 1995.

In a statement, the north Glasgow club said: "As far as Thistle's current management can ascertain, no other allegations were made to the club at that time with regard to him or any other employee.

"The club has contacted the SFA and Police Scotland to advise them of what they know to date and will fully comply with any investigation."

Gordon Smith said any inquiry set up by the football authorities would have to consider three groups of people.

"Obviously there's people who were committing the offences," he said. "They are a disgrace and hopefully they're going to be found out legally and charged.

"There's the kids who suffered from it who are now adults who obviously got great psychological and traumatic effects of it.

"The third element is the people who maybe knew something about this going on and didn't do anything about it. Although they're maybe not legally culpable they're certainly morally culpable because they didn't do anything about it."

The SFA has said it is part of a task force set up to coordinate complaints and information relating to child abuse within football.

It said Police Scotland are taking the lead and all information received is being passed on to them.

The SFA said it is not currently backing the idea of an independent inquiry but it may look at the proposal again after police have gathered evidence.

 

 

[Band of Brothers 10,303]

What a shit hole of a country I live in corrupt to the core. In England Scotland Yard are getting involved ffs.

[MidSussexBlue 1,271]

Just when you thought you could not despise the woman (term used loosely) more.

[Howsitgoing 4,281]

This is fucking awful, SFA own guidelines stipulate that they are indeed legally culpable as per

"Section 5 of the Children (Scotland) Act 1995 creates a statutory duty to report any suspicions of child abuse i.e. a duty to do what is reasonable in all the circumstances to safeguard the child's health, development and welfare. Failure to report concerns, turning a blind eye or failing to protect a child may result in legal action."

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/ssfa/scottish_football.cfm?page=3812

 

our own 1st minister doesn't even know the laws governing our country. She's a joke. 

[Band of Brothers 10,303]

Just now, Howsitgoing said:

This is fucking awful, SFA own guidelines stipulate that they are indeed legally culpable as per

"Section 5 of the Children (Scotland) Act 1995 creates a statutory duty to report any suspicions of child abuse i.e. a duty to do what is reasonable in all the circumstances to safeguard the child's health, development and welfare. Failure to report concerns, turning a blind eye or failing to protect a child may result in legal action."

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/ssfa/scottish_football.cfm?page=3812

 

our own 1st minister doesn't even know the laws governing our country. She's a joke. 

Maybe we should be emailing this to all our local MP's if anyone can do a template I will fire it off as my grammer is shite.

[Gazza1212 1,212]

This runs way deeper than any of us could have ever imagined. If this is ever to be properly exposed it will have to come from a totally independent source with zero interest in protecting the guilty. 

[TheBluebells 6,898]

Get on to non snp politicians in your area and let them know this isn't ok. 

How she can say that is incredible, a farce of a country and an even bigger one 'running' it. 

[TheBluebells 6,898]

"Speaking at First Minister's Questions, Ms Sturgeon said: "To widen the remit of that inquiry would mean that it would take perhaps many years longer to conclude its investigations and would risk it becoming complacent"

Open up another enquiry then instead of saying such a ridiculous thing as it'll take too long then. 

 

"We're now finding out some of the cases down in England where  club tried to hush the situation, even paid a player money to not say anything about it."

Aye hen, just England we're seeing that aye? 

[Chineseboy 1,563]

Words actually fail me on this statement. Utterly disgraceful. She should resign immediately after issuing this statement.

[Bearsden bear 2,376]

'takes too long' or 'costs too much'. Heartening to know that no-one in authority gives a shit about child abuse. god forbid it happens to any of their kids

[Bears r us 30,794]

Just read that a wee while ago and it is not surprising, she is frightened to open the can of worms that could see her supporters/followers/voters for independence shown up for being complicit in child abuse. Bunch of bastards. 

[K.A.I 36,183]

I didn't even bat an eye-lid to that.

I should, but I didn't.

That's how little I think of Scotland, Police Scotland and the SNP. 

[B1872 20,700]

Would be totally different if it was Rangers.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

34 minutes ago, Gazza1212 said:

This runs way deeper than any of us could have ever imagined. If this is ever to be properly exposed it will have to come from a totally independent source with zero interest in protecting the guilty. 

100%

[AlCapone 7,678]

the big problems is that she has targeted two religions for her support, she knows fine well it would hammer those she relies on for votes. that to her is more important than the safety of her constistuents. Shameful

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

11 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

Just read that a wee while ago and it is not surprising, she is frightened to open the can of worms that could see her supporters/followers/voters for independence shown up for being complicit in child abuse. Bunch of bastards. 

Therein lies the crux of the matter. She has taig votes to be thinking about to keep her in power, so ffs do not upset them.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

3 minutes ago, AlCapone said:

the big problems is that she has targeted two religions for her support, she knows fine well it would hammer those she relies on for votes. that to her is more important than the safety of her constistuents. Shameful

We all know her for the shameless cunt that she is. I pray for the day that bitch literally falls on her own sword.

[cr3_bear 14,830]

Vile cow 

[CottonRunt 978]

Cannae wait to see how the usual suspects will defend her over this one. 

[KingKirk 25,633]

I think we all know what's gone on at that club as long as victims get justice and clubs punished then am fine with that.

[BridgeIsBlue 66,606]

Tarrier cunt of a woman.

Funny how the SFA suddenly don't have any money but were more than happy to throw the book at us 4 year ago.

This country is polluted to the very core with these vile fenian bastards.

But paranoid protestants eh..

[Captain Hilts 12,819]

Disgusting.

Officials at the tarriers knew fine well what the likes of Torbett and McCafferty were up to, and didn't report them to the police, even letting McCafferty join other clubs to abuse more kids.

Any organisation, football clubs or otherwise, who's officials were aware of something like that going on and didn't report it, should be shamed and punished.

Fuck Sturgeon and her despicable corrupt political party.

[Moody Blue Legend 61,461]

Should be fuck all to do with her.  If evidence came forward about cover ups, the police should be taking action.  Regardless what club are involved.

[Boaby Bear 411]

The wee heed nodding scumfuck probably has history of it in her family and is protecting the guilty.

Disgrace of a woman in a disgrace of a country, soon to be a fucking republic if we dont get the finger oot!

[beechwood bear 559]

Get this horrible little fucktard out of office immediately. A disgrace of the highest order.