quinty 1,445 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Cue mass Timfusion and Timplosion. The don't know whether call us a new club or an old club. Fantastic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchibaldLeitch 380 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Maybe we will find out who the leak is in order for them to be prosecuted under the full extent of the law. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawsburst 1,381 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Cue mass Timfusion and Timplosion. The don't know whether call us a new club or an old club. Fantastic.http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=265505&view=findpost&p=1061758900 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Absolutely nothing to do with us.Would be quite happy for the OldCo lose it and for them to realise that there is absolutely nothing they can do to effect us.Not really fussed either way to be honest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robespierre 589 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Will this have any effect on us either way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Will this have any effect on us either way?None what-so-ever.All our legal liabilites to that matter have been concluded. The NewCo transfer has ensured that all attached problems have gone away.The LNS ruling has also put to bed any ideas of titlestripping historic titles. This will not be reopened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1mgg 3,766 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Would still like it to be won. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Will this have any effect on us either way?Would give the scum and the rest of Scottish Football the chance to call us cheats. Would hope that we win it, but even if we do, they will appeal again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Absolutely nothing to do with us.Would be quite happy for the OldCo lose it and for them to realise that there is absolutely nothing they can do to effect us.Not really fussed either way to be honest.No we should delight in another victory as it destroys all attempts to say we did anything wrong or had any unfair advantage, if we lose you can bet the title stripping calls will start again from bheast HQ, we know we did nothing wrong and we deserve to beable to have the evidence to prove it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Would give the scum and the rest of Scottish Football the chance to call us cheats. Would hope that we win it, but even if we do, they will appeal again.AgreedIt will be good to win it and finally but it behind us Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 No we should delight in another victory as it destroys all attempts to say we did anything wrong or had any unfair advantage, if we lose you can bet the title stripping calls will start again from bheast HQ, we know we did nothing wrong and we deserve to beable to have the evidence to prove it.To be honest, we might have been in the wrong using the EBTs, the outcome of this will decide it.We certainly did not cheat in anyway on the field though, this is how the LNS findings came down and these are irreversable.Im not a fan of aggressive tax avoidance schemes, so if the case is lost, so be it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR 1,480 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 To be honest, we might have been in the wrong using the EBTs, the outcome of this will decide it.We certainly did not cheat in anyway on the field though, this is how the LNS findings came down and these are irreversable.Im not a fan of aggressive tax avoidance schemes, so if the case is lost, so be it.As has been done to death, EBT's we're not illegal and if their use is portrayed to be anything other than acceptable then the Mhanks are as guilty as anyone else for using them. And there will be a shitload of EPL clubs liable too. If the Oldco are found guilty then the floodgates should open. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,591 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think this might be the final bite of the cherry for HMRC but don't quote me on it.Remember the appeal is on points of law and not cause they did not like the verdict.The 2 in favour of us were the law experts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebest 11,453 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 None what-so-ever.All our legal liabilites to that matter have been concluded. The NewCo transfer has ensured that all attached problems have gone away.The LNS ruling has also put to bed any ideas of titlestripping historic titles. This will not be reopened.Still removes another stick for them to try and beat us with, however pathetic the continued attempts are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 To be honest, we might have been in the wrong using the EBTs, the outcome of this will decide it.We certainly did not cheat in anyway on the field though, this is how the LNS findings came down and these are irreversable.Im not a fan of aggressive tax avoidance schemes, so if the case is lost, so be it.To go over old ground again EBTs were legal until the loophole was closed then HMRC tried to retrospectively punish us for before it was closed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,975 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I would still like to know why we were targeted specifically and why they have pursued us so relentlessly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I would still like to know why we were targeted specifically and why they have pursued us so relentlessly.Exactly! Do you remember one of the rhats' conspiracy theories a few years back? It was the Establishment one. They claimed highest powers in the land eg Goverment, police, masons were all in it together plotting against the shettlestons!!You've got to laugh. Well apart from the 'vhisitors' who will no doubt inhabit this thread in their droves?Alright Finton? How's the sphincter muscle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,137 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Would give the scum and the rest of Scottish Football the chance to call us cheats. Would hope that we win it, but even if we do, they will appeal again.This, our enemies would revel if oldco lost this case, plus it would prove the unjustified witch hunt that was made against the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZed 4,510 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I would still like to know why we were targeted specifically and why they have pursued us so relentlessly.Because the Labour party in Glasgow and surround areas are highly biased in favour of Septic. Old Labour parliamentarians are involved with Septic along with Glasgow City Council; they have called favours and influenced the Tax man to pursue us remorselessly so their main rivals are crippled. The SNP government turns a blind eye because the tarnishing or destruction of one of the most visible symbols of Unionism suits the independence cause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitre_mouldmaster 21,509 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 To go over old ground again EBTs were legal until the loophole was closed then HMRC tried to retrospectively punish us for before it was closed.Yea I know, but the 2008 Finance Act allows them to retrospectively claim back money in this way.The case of Robert Huitson / Montpelier Tax Consultants was an accomplished demonstration of this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,890 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hope we win it and Murray grows a set and goes after folk like Spiers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muirheadbear 1,483 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hope we win it and Murray grows a set and goes after folk like Spiers.If 'they' do this appeal will go to the Supreme Court.It's said that the higher the level of appeal goes to the more HMRC wins!They have the time and resources to go all the way with this - and they will.Incidentally, I don't feel that this dispute affects us anymore. In fact losing the appeal allows BDO to go after Murray, Lloyds and Whyte in a big way and frankly I want to know the whole story if that (IMO) shady transaction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,005 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Yea I know, but the 2008 Finance Act allows them to retrospectively claim back money in this way.The case of Robert Huitson / Montpelier Tax Consultants was an accomplished demonstration of this.Why Rangers Football Club? Why not take the settlement offered by SDM? Why so aggressive? Why when chasing such sums are they able to add penalties and interest to a retrospectively closed loopholes?Two words IMO. John Reid. I am sure they could have chased many clubs for lesser amounts to win the trial case they apparently need. Why are they continuing spending taxpayers money for no chance of recuperation from Rangers? There is more than a feel of test case here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangersfc77 170 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 An instigated witch hunt by HMRC and anyone who believes any different will be unwittingly allowing another generation of Rangers fans to be hounded, old-co must keep up the fight and tax payers must petition about the corrupt goings on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgally 452 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 No we should delight in another victory as it destroys all attempts to say we did anything wrong or had any unfair advantage, if we lose you can bet the title stripping calls will start again from bheast HQ, we know we did nothing wrong and we deserve to beable to have the evidence to prove it.aye,quite right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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