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I have to laugh on here at times with the level of hypocricy shown by some of our fans.

They absolutely detest those players who decided to reject the TUPE transfer and cancel their contracts.

On the next thread they are calling Ally all the names under the sun and an enemy of the club for earning so much money because he carried his contract over from the old company.

You cant have it both ways, if you try you are just being a hypocrite.

Oh, and for the record, Ally is paid far too much IMO.

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I have to laugh on here at times with the level of hypocricy shown by some of our fans.

They absolutely detest those players who decided to reject the TUPE transfer and cancel their contracts.

On the next thread they are calling Ally all the names under the sun and an enemy of the club for earning so much money because he carried his contract over from the old company.

You cant have it both ways, if you try you are just being a hypocrite.

Oh, and for the record, Ally is paid far too much IMO.

Im a hypocrite.

I was annoyed at the players who fucked off and i was also annoyed at Allys huge wage.

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A wee bit of a difference, Ally stayed without losing a penny, the players probably knew they'd be on a wage cut and didn't fancy the job ahead, plus they knew they could get another job, Ally didnt

Ally reduced his salary.

The players wages were secured under TUPE rules.

Boca and Goian get roundly applauded for transferring over, going out on loan to secure their big contracts that no-one would match, then taking a big payoff.

Not Ally though, he is an enemy according to some.

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I have to laugh on here at times with the level of hypocricy shown by some of our fans.

They absolutely detest those players who decided to reject the TUPE transfer and cancel their contracts.

On the next thread they are calling Ally all the names under the sun and an enemy of the club for earning so much money because he carried his contract over from the old company.

You cant have it both ways, if you try you are just being a hypocrite.

Oh, and for the record, Ally is paid far too much IMO.

And most importantly and crucially ,he is a shite Manager and 90% on here want him gone
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Each and every decision was based on self interest with the exception of Lee Wallace.

If Lee McCulloch and Neil Alexander had been in their mid 20's they would have fucked off too! In the final analysis, we would have to have sold them anyway because we simply could not pay many of them in excess of 20k per week. The argument was the transfer fees. The question - would those fees still be in the accounts right now?

At the end of the day everyone will have their opinion on it. Some of it more 'emotional' than some others.

Let the vitriol begin!

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Each and every decision was based on self interest with the exception of Lee Wallace.

If Lee McCulloch and Neil Alexander had been in their mid 20's they would have fucked off too! In the final analysis, we would have to have sold them anyway because we simply could not pay many of them in excess of 20k per week. The argument was the transfer fees. The question - would those fees still be in the accounts right now?

At the end of the day everyone will have their opinion on it. Some of it more 'emotional' than some others.

Let the vitriol begin!

Alexander joined an EPL club after his contract ended...

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Ally reduced his salary.

The players wages were secured under TUPE rules.

Boca and Goian get roundly applauded for transferring over, going out on loan to secure their big contracts that no-one would match, then taking a big payoff.

Not Ally though, he is an enemy according to some.

Deferred is the word you are looking for.... (tu)

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The board should have held discussions with anyone who TUPE'd over after 12 months, as legally that's the limit of time when your terms are protected by.

Whoever was the chief executive at that time should have explored that option and if they didn't were careless at best, negligent at worst.

That could have saved a bloody fortune, and potentially given an option to dismiss under GM if the new terms were not acceted.

Happens in many, many other organisations.

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sorry MM but what a load of pish this thread is

the ones who didnt tupe over could have came over even with the agreement in place that we'd sell them for even a couple million, or even a million, get us a few quid, instead they simply fucked

Ally however tupe'd over, fair enough, but he knew his 700k a year was one he was never getting elsewhere, and he, by all accounts, tried to hide his massive wage, and then only, again by all accounts, deferred his salary reduction until a later date

no hypocrisy there, both sides have fucked over the club financially

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I have to laugh on here at times with the level of hypocricy shown by some of our fans.

They absolutely detest those players who decided to reject the TUPE transfer and cancel their contracts.

On the next thread they are calling Ally all the names under the sun and an enemy of the club for earning so much money because he carried his contract over from the old company.

You cant have it both ways, if you try you are just being a hypocrite.

Oh, and for the record, Ally is paid far too much IMO.

Who would have got the transfer money if the players had not refused contracts? Just wondering.
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The only real Rangers men are the fans as they put their money in to the club whether that be for season tickets, merchandise, shares etc.

If the players, coaches and manager had the true interests of the club and fans at heart they would have played/worked for nothing or for vastly reduced contracts.

As it is they have mostly justified their stance (whether they left, stayed or joined) based on the fact that others have taken money from the club (directors etc) so why shouldn't they.

I am not saying they should have played for nothing as they were/are professional people at a top club, I am saying if they were real fans, like us, they would have played/worked for nothing.

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sorry MM but what a load of pish this thread is

the ones who didnt tupe over could have came over even with the agreement in place that we'd sell them for even a couple million, or even a million, get us a few quid, instead they simply fucked

Ally however tupe'd over, fair enough, but he knew his 700k a year was one he was never getting elsewhere, and he, by all accounts, tried to hide his massive wage, and then only, again by all accounts, deferred his salary reduction until a later date

no hypocrisy there, both sides have fucked over the club financially

So you think that Goian and Boca are selfish bastards as well?

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Think the point thats being made about allys wages is correct he is on to much even after halving his wages. As for the players that left naismith and co yhere fucking traitors no real rangers men and as for them staying and earning big wages they didnt need to stay they could still have left, but if they had stayed we would have got money for them instead of fuck all

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So you think that Goian and Boca are selfish bastards as well?

no because they gave us a chance of receiving a fee for them, even if it was minimal, it was our choice to pay them off instead of perhaps trying to negotiate a new reduced salary contract with them

as it stands our gracious gaffer has reportedly only deferred his pay cut, if/when he gets the dan mack he'll reportedly get every fucking penny back, and his shares are worth a cushy wee amount

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no because they gave us a chance of receiving a fee for them, even if it was minimal, it was our choice to pay them off instead of perhaps trying to negotiate a new reduced salary contract with them

as it stands our gracious gaffer has reportedly only deferred his pay cut, if/when he gets the dan mack he'll reportedly get every fucking penny back, and his shares are worth a cushy wee amount

Reported where, I have looked for a link or article about it somewhere.

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