Siam69 26,761 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Yes, i know this piece is about the taigs and what they could've won, but it also applies to us, when we are back in Europe, hence me posting in the Bears Den. Admin can move it if they want, plus it gives a little chuckle -How much has Champions League exit cost Celtic? By Alasdair Lamont BBC Scotland Celtic's 4-3 aggregate loss to Malmo in the Champions League play-off round is a blow to their ambitions this season.They will now play in the group stage of the Europa League, Uefa's less prestigious club competition.This will earn them millions of pounds but an awful lot less than victory over the Swedes would have guaranteed.How much is the Europa League worth to Celtic?This is the first year of a new Uefa cycle, so the financial rewards are greater than before.Malmo earned £1.42m by beating Celtic; much more will come their way in the Champions League.Celtic will have £2.13m to help ease their disappointment before they enter the Europa League, the prize money for which is broken down below:Europa League prize moneyGroup stage fee£1.74mGroup stage performance£262,000 per win, £87,000 per drawGroup winners£363,000, and £182,000 for runners-upRound of 32£363,000Round of 16£545,000Quarter-finals£727,000Semi-finals£1.09mFinal£4.72m for winner and £2.54m for runner-upSo, even if Celtic do not gain a point in the Europa League they will be guaranteed £3.87m (£2.13m + £1.74m).Clubs also earn money from the competition's market pool, which includes a share of TV money. This is tricky to predict as last season's figures are not yet available - and the same is true of the gate money taken by Celtic during their Europa League campaign last year.But using a bit of educated guesswork, their combined value might be about £4m.Celtic played in the Europa League last season after failing to reach the Champions LeagueSo, if Celtic don't progress from the Europa League group stage they will earn about £8m, plus any prize money for wins and draws.Celtic fans may wish to read through their fingers what follows.Had the club qualified for the Champions League group stage they would have earned many millions more.How much could Celtic have earned by beating Malmo?From the group stage onwards the Champions League prize money is as follows:Champions League prize moneyGroup stage fee£8.52mGroup stage performance£1.06m per win, £355,000 per drawRound of 16£3.9mQuarter-finals£4.26mSemi-finals£4.97mFinal£10.65m for the winner, £7.45m for the runner-upBy way of comparison, Celtic earned £2.7m for winning the Scottish Premiership title last season.In other words, prize money for the winning the Scottish title over 38 matches is about the same as two wins and two draws in the Champions League group stage.Had Celtic progressed and not collected any points in the Champions League group stage, they would still have received £9.94m in prize money (£1.42m + £8.52m).Further cash would have been earned from the competition's market pool, which represents 40% of total Champions League revenue. The figures cannot be accurately predicted, but using Celtic's most recent group stage campaign as a guide, in 2013-14 they received £5.79m.One of the factors involved in the final amount is performance in that year's competition and on that occasion Celtic won only one game.Celtic would have been able to count on a large home support for Champions League matches. Two seasons ago, the sale of 255,000 match tickets across the qualifiers and group stage games against AC Milan, Ajax and Barcelona generated more than £6.4m.So, had Celtic beaten Malmo it would have been worth in excess of £21m to them (£9.94m in prize money + £5.79m market pool cash + £6m ticket sales = £21.73m).With about £8m plus bonuses for wins and draws available in the Europa League, that disappointing performance in Malmo has cost them dearly - some £13m. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartypants 4,417 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'll let it stay here for now.Might move it shortly though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Its a shame for them.its not really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,277 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 They must be pig sick that the swedes brought home the bacon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartypants 4,417 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Chicharito no coming to scotland then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delamonty 992 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Europa is pretty much worthless. In the EPL just about every team that plays there drops down 3 or 4 positions than previous years as well. And that cost plenty! As far as the scum.. they are guaranteed to win another tainted title. One thing though.. they will now sell their better players which means they will be weaker when we rejoin next year. Can't wait to hump these bastards 5-0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wearethepeople72 1,844 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Happy days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyscott1963 18,020 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The EPL teams fielded second string players in the Europa as they do not rate this competition and Andy Walker reckoned on SSN the secret was "chippie chips" LMAO Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bump 168 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 quite glad they fucked up,and next season they will have us to contend with Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 70,781 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The EPL teams fielded second string players in the Europa as they do not rate this competition and Andy Walker reckoned on SSN the secret was "chippie chips" LMAO Worth it now with increased bonuses and a CL place if you win it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helicopter Sundae 5,917 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 KARMA got the cunts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hume 12,686 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Its a shame for them.And as shame is rightly attached to anything they have done historically, since landing on our shores, I can only wish them more shame when they get pumped out of the EL early. Ireland's shame ....... Scotland's burden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,011 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I love the way they put these figures out, as though there's no cost and it's all profit, it's cost the tims a fair amount of cash just to try and compete with the big boys, they never seem to mention this, that's why they have to sell their best players, not that they have many Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Pedro has all his diciples hard at work already putting a positive spin on it .Watch out for the negative crap coming our way Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec87 331 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Pedro has all his diciples hard at work already putting a positive spin on it .Watch out for the negative crap coming our waySomeone has pointed out to me that Liewell has managed to wangle mostly away games after European midweeks this season in a vain attempt to try to get more of them to attend as the Sunday turnouts were even worse than usual. Fixtures randomly selected by computer my arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,761 Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Any Club who even gets to the groups stages of Europa getting about 8million, plus prize money for wins or draws on top of that.It's all relative, small fry to EPL Teams, but for the SPFL at present, that's still a sizable chunk.We need to get back in Europe ASAP.Could we do it via any of the Cups this Season, if we performed well enough to go that far? Legally (UEFA rules), can we now do it if we won a cup this Season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corkinator 611 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Any Club who even gets to the groups stages of Europa getting about 8million, plus prize money for wins or draws on top of that.It's all relative, small fry to EPL Teams, but for the SPFL at present, that's still a sizable chunk.We need to get back in Europe ASAP.Could we do it via any of the Cups this Season, if we performed well enough to go that far? Legally (UEFA rules), can we now do it if we won a cup this Season?The Money thes horros spend on travel and accomodation to and from Euro games will be phenomenal. I believe it cost aberdeen £250k to travel to Kazakstan!! while only recieveing about £130k in prize money hahaha. The PIGS will have a bigger entourage than the sheep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raging blue 1972 894 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 it's actually less, cause no way they selling £6m worth of tickets -prob about 35000 per game (being kind) and a lot less for a ticket will take that down to about £3m I reckon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMac 1,405 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I love the way they put these figures out, as though there's no cost and it's all profit, it's cost the tims a fair amount of cash just to try and compete with the big boys, they never seem to mention this, that's why they have to sell their best players, not that they have many13/14 there average salary was £17,000 per player per week. Much of that was down to European bonuses i would imagine. People forget their wage bill ranges from £30-40 million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLYBOY50 1,638 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Good enough for the Tarrier cunts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumshie 205 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I might be in the minority but I miss the European games more than the Old Firm games. Desperate to win the Scottish Cup this year so we can get back in next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willief 8 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 KARMA got the cunts.Yep.A Karma ran over their Dogma, as the Buddhist said to the Tim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I might be in the minority but I miss the European games more than the Old Firm games. Desperate to win the Scottish Cup this year so we can get back in next season.I agree, the first European game at Ibrox will be a total sell out, whether it is Hfnyafjoerdor or Real Madrid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I might be in the minority but I miss the European games more than the Old Firm games. Desperate to win the Scottish Cup this year so we can get back in next season.Totally agree. The European nights, more particularly the CL nights, are the pinnacle at Ibrox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam69 26,761 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Could we do it via any of the Cups this Season, if we performed well enough to go that far? Legally (UEFA rules), can we now do it if we won a cup this Season?So, am i right in thinking we would be 'allowed' to play in Europe this year if we won a Cup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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