broxi51 48 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Just a suggestion, try him out in the defensive midfield role and haliday more attacking role. i like our defensive lineup but they are needing a more natural dcm player in there to help out, our next transfer target will be a dm I believe Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.E.C. 18,712 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've read he can pick out a pass so wouldn't be against it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandStandBear 995 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 What's John Eustace got to say about this? I'd like to see Ball in place of Wilson for a game or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I agree with the Op and maybe this is Mark Warburtons' plan for the second half of the season?I can't imagine Spurs being too happy that he is sitting on the bench up here.I would also like to see young Jordan Thompson get a run out aswell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'd happily have him in in place of Wilson for a while. Wilson has been stinking recently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 What's John Eustace got to say about this? I'd like to see Ball in place of Wilson for a game or two.What has the thoughts of any non-Ranger got to do with it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Gallant Pioneer 555 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Would be my CDM every week. Holt to drop out with Halliday and Zelalem playing in front of Ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 What has the thoughts of any non-Ranger got to do with it?You mean the non-Ranger who is working at the club for free? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Or, novelty concept really, but we could also let the manager get on with managing the team? I don't like 'loan' players as a concept - and don't like us playing any loan player in front of one of our own contracted players ( no matter how exciting or good the loanee is) - the thought of playing Ball, a short term loanee, in any position while dropping holt or Wilson just seems daft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 You want us to move a Left Back/Left Midfielder who has been playing well as a Defensive Midfielder and replace him with a Centre Back?Playing players out of their 'natural' positions is for cunts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 You want us to move a Left Back/Left Midfielder who has been playing well as a Defensive Midfielder and replace him with a Centre Back?Playing players out of their 'natural' positions is for cunts.I thought he came as a defender ... central, but could play left back and midfield if needed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 2,428 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Or, novelty concept really, but we could also let the manager get on with managing the team?I don't like 'loan' players as a concept - and don't like us playing any loan player in front of one of our own contracted players ( no matter how exciting or good the loanee is) - the thought of playing Ball, a short term loanee, in any position while dropping holt or Wilson just seems daft.Not picking the best players available in your squad seems daft, on loan or not. If a loan player has the jersey its up to the other players to get it off him. Best players possible for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude 20,026 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Or, novelty concept really, but we could also let the manager get on with managing the team? I don't like 'loan' players as a concept - and don't like us playing any loan player in front of one of our own contracted players ( no matter how exciting or good the loanee is) - the thought of playing Ball, a short term loanee, in any position while dropping holt or Wilson just seems daft.If the loanees are better than the contracted players I see no issue. No different to having a player on a 12 month contract really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,520 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not picking the best players available in your squad seems daft, on loan or not. If a loan player has the jersey its up to the other players to get it off him. Best players possible for me.The problem with loanees is you may just become reliant on them in that position with no one else getting the chance. The two ways you get the jersey off someone is via an injury or showing in training. I am assuming MW feels Ball is not ready yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
broxi51 48 Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 You want us to move a Left Back/Left Midfielder who has been playing well as a Defensive Midfielder and replace him with a Centre Back?Playing players out of their 'natural' positions is for cunts.It's a suggestion, not a solution, I think we will buy a long term one. Shiels will be gone next season, he is on far too much money just now, Haliday could be utilised further forward, Ball isnt getting a run at ch, I'm sure the that dm position won't be too alien too him , we have such a high line anyway, there would be minimal space between him and the chs more like a back 3 than anything else. Anyway Im just an armchair manager, and I don't have a magic hat, so what do i know Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 2,428 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The problem with loanees is you may just become reliant on them in that position with no one else getting the chance. The two ways you get the jersey off someone is via an injury or showing in training. I am assuming MW feels Ball is not ready yet.Or Mr Warburton does not see Dominic Ball as an option in the position that the OP suggested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Not picking the best players available in your squad seems daft, on loan or not. If a loan player has the jersey its up to the other players to get it off him. Best players possible for me.If we are a development club - looking at revenue from transfers - then developing someone else's young player has no benefit to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 If the loanees are better than the contracted players I see no issue. No different to having a player on a 12 month contract really.We seem to be setting ourself up as a development club - I don't really see the benefit in develping another clubs player ( after all many on here ( not you) just seem to think any decent player should be able to play, and develop, as long as we have a decent manager ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythebestest 2,145 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Or, novelty concept really, but we could also let the manager get on with managing the team? I don't like 'loan' players as a concept - and don't like us playing any loan player in front of one of our own contracted players ( no matter how exciting or good the loanee is) - the thought of playing Ball, a short term loanee, in any position while dropping holt or Wilson just seems daft.One second you're scalding another poster for second guessing our manager. The next you yourself are second guessing our manager for playing loanees in front of contracted players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,680 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Don't like the idea of playing him as a defensive midfielder but have wanted to see him at centre half for a few weeks now. Hopefully soon. Also, the Eustace situation is becoming annoying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 We seem to be setting ourself up as a development club - I don't really see the benefit in develping another clubs player ( after all many on here ( not you) just seem to think any decent player should be able to play, and develop, as long as we have a decent manager )Don't you always bang on about us being a winning club first and foremost when arguing your point against other things? if our best player for that time/game/position is a loanee then just play him as that = best chance of winning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,595 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Can see Ball starting ahead of Wilson for the next game,I think Danny's a decent centre back but with the football we're playing he needs to work more on his passing.Gave the ball away far too many times yesterday.*edit* forgot the next game is 2 week away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluepeter9 5,167 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 One second you're scalding another poster for second guessing our manager. The next you yourself are second guessing our manager for playing loanees in front of contracted players.Yes - I tend to trust managers football knowledge and don't like the clubs philosophy of bringing in loanees - it's not about playing the loanees - it's about having them in the first place Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carsons Army 4,146 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've got a cracking idea.Why not just leave the team as it is and make changes if and when required. The same team that is bringing almost 50,000 fans to Ibrox and battering every team we play against.Why not allow them to Jel, learn each others game and form working partnerships.you can't really improve on a 100% league record.Davie Weir has forgotten more about defending than most of us will ever know, Wilson and Kiernan are W&W's preferred partnership,The midfield central 3 containing Halliday and Holt is the same midfield that dominates games and tires opponents out,The shift that the wee lad Holt puts in should never be underestimated, He make terrific runs and he creates space, When Waghorn comes short or goes wide Holt goes in behind. I would never have the wee man out my team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1690tamRFC 5,001 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Yes - I tend to trust managers football knowledge and don't like the clubs philosophy of bringing in loanees - it's not about playing the loanees - it's about having them in the first placeWe have three loanees at the moment, and only two are playing regularly, it's hardly a problem ffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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