Boab 73 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Not that I'm biased at all with Italian half family, when I went to my Nonna's (Italian for Gran) for Christmas dinner we had Anti Pasti before dinner: Forza Italia! Tv details: UEFA EURO 2008 GROUP C : France vs Italy Date: Tue 17 June Kick-off: 1945 BST Venue: Letzigrund Stadion, Zurich Coverage: Live on BBC ONE and BBC Sport website (UK only), video highlights on mobiles, full commentary on BBC Radio 5 Live and on BBC Sport website (UK only), full text coverage on BBC Sport website and on mobiles UEFA EURO 2008 GROUP C : Netherlands vs Romania Date: Tue 17 June KO: 1945 BST Venue: Stade de Suisse Wankdorf, Berne Coverage: Live on BBC THREE and BBC Sport website (UK only), video highlights on mobiles, full commentary on BBC Radio 5 Live and on BBC Sport website (UK only), full text coverage on BBC Sport website and on mobiles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 Some links for you http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/e...008/7363384.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/e...008/7363393.stm France captain Patrick Vieira is out after admitting that he had not recovered from his thigh injury. Defender William Gallas missed training on Saturday but is expected to play for France, who must win to progress. Italy coach Roberto Donadoni made five changes before their last game against Romania and also altered the formation following a thumping loss to the Dutch. It resulted in a better performance from the world champions, who will choose from a fully fit squad. The Netherlands are likely to leave out Andre Ooijer and Nigel de Jong, who are each a booking away from a suspension. John Heitinga and Demy de Zeeuw are likely to deputise, while Arjen Robben is expected to start his first match after two substitute appearances. Romania's Mirel Radoi is ruled out of the tournament with a head injury, while defender Dorin Goian is banned. Cristian Chivu could drop back to cover Goian, with Nicolae Dica and Banel Nicolita coming into midfield. Romania beat the Netherlands 1-0 in qualifying for Euro 2008 and held them to a goalless draw in Rotterdam. A win in Berne will put Romania into the quarter-finals and match their best ever result in a major tournament. The Dutch have kept up their record of making the quarter-finals in every European Championship since they won it in 1988. Both Heitinga and De Zeeuw will be looking to play their way into coach Marco van Basten's thoughts for the next stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brissyger 8 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I HATE the Italians and hope they get gubbed but I see them winning this one unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose_72 198 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 just need holland to do the business against romania(preferably a draw) and hope the tallies win, got a couple bets on for tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petebrown11 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 if france and italy draw, which i'd say is fairly likely, then they're both out so long as romania dont lose by more than 2. that would certainly liven things up for me, france and italy have both been pretty dull to watch in recent years, and romania would probably go straight out against spain in the next round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 Italy and France will not face a penalty shoot-out on Tuesday no matter what the results are in the final games in Group C, Uefa has confirmed. The European football governing body had suggested a shoot-out could be used to determine which of the two teams finishes bottom of the group. But a Uefa official attempted to clear up the confusion over the matter. "There is no way that France and Italy can go to a penalty shoot-out," a spokesman told BBC Sport. The Netherlands have already secured top spot in the group but the other three teams in the so-called 'Group of Death' are still battling to clinch the other quarter-final berth. A Romania victory would ensure their passage through to the knockout stages and effectively render the France-Italy game meaningless. But on Monday it was claimed that should Romania go through and France and Italy draw then their group positions would be determined by a shoot-out. However, Uefa has clarified that a penalty shoot-out would only be used to determine which team qualifies when two sides finish level on points and cannot be separated by goals scored. Here is the official Uefa regulation: "If two teams which have the same number of points, the same number of goals scored and conceded, play their last group match against each other and are still equal at the end of that match, the ranking of the two teams in question will be determined by kicks from the penalty mark, provided no other teams within the group have the same number of points on completion of all group matches." Here, BBC Sport details what could happen on Tuesday: GROUP C PERMUTATIONS The Netherlands have won Group C and will play the Group D runners-up in the quarter-finals. Romania will qualify for the quarter-finals if they beat the Netherlands, eliminating France and Italy. If Romania fail to beat the Netherlands, the winner of France v Italy will go through. If France and Italy draw, a point against the Netherlands would be enough to send Romania through. France must win to have any chance of qualifying. If France and Italy share a score draw (1-1, 2-2, 3-3 etc), Italy will go through if Romania lose (by any score). In this scenario, Italy, Romania and France will be level on two points each but Italy would have scored more goals in games between the 3 teams. Romania will finish bottom of the group if they lose and France and Italy draw 2-2, 3-3 or 4-4. France will finish bottom if they draw 1-1 unless Romania lose 3-0 or by a four-goal margin. If France and Italy draw 0-0, Romania can lose by one goal, two goals or by a three-goal margin other than 3-0 but still qualify. In this scenario, Italy and Romania would have identical head-to-head records, but Romania would have better goal difference in ALL group matches or, in the case of the three-goal defeats, goals scored. France would finish bottom, having scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania. If Romania lose 3-0 to the Dutch, Italy would qualify with a 0-0 draw against France because of their superior coefficient points. France would finish bottom as they would have scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania. If Romania lose by four goals or more and the other game ends 0-0, Italy would proceed with a better overall goal difference than Romania. France would finish bottom as they would have scored fewer goals head-to-head v Italy and Romania. If France and Italy draw AND Romania avoid defeat, then Romania go through. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/e...aly/7457863.stm Group C (Tuesday) Netherlands (6, winners) v Romania (2), France (1) v Italy (1) Again, top spot is decided in favour of the Netherlands, and second-placed Romania will join the Dutch in the quarter-finals by winning their encounter in Berne. If Romania draw or lose then that would allow either France or Italy to go through by winning their match in Zurich – the only way Les Bleus can progress. If Romania lose and the others play out a score draw, Italy would go through in a three-way head-to-head tie on two points as they would have scored more goals in the games involving France and Romania. If Romania fall by one goal, two goals or by a three-goal margin other than 3-0 and the other match finishes 0-0, Romania would advance as their head-to-head record with Italy would be dead level but they would have a superior overall goal difference (or in the case of the three-goal defeats, goals scored). If Romania lose by four goals or more and the other game ends 0-0, Italy would proceed with a better overall goal difference than Romania. If Romania lose 3-0 and the other match finishes 0-0, Italy and Romania would have to be split on qualifying coefficients, in which case Italy would prevail 2.364-2.250. http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/news/kind=1/ne...d&att=index Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petebrown11 0 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 christ boab, my head hurts after reading that! what the hell's wrong with using goal difference if they finish level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab 73 Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 christ boab, my head hurts after reading that! what the hell's wrong with using goal difference if they finish level? This is UEFA, nothing's ever simple! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSuedeSambas 53,772 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I hope Romania win and France and Italy go out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATPRFC1872. 220 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I hope Romania win and France and Italy go out. Me too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottylad72 19 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Italy Out, France Out. Nice one. MON THE ORANJE BOYS hope they can finally get another big tourney win. 20 years too long for a great national side like Holland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelle1880 225 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Stekelenburg Boulahrouz - Heitinga - Bouma - De Cler De Zeeuw - Engelaar Van Persie - Afellay - Robben Huntelaar. This is their B-team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Still a good team tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Anybody watching the 2 games at once? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/e...008/7442267.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_glasgow 2 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 ICT Niculae starts for Romania Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSS!!!!!! C'mon Romania Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 watching 2 games at the same time cannie beat it....LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Romania should have scored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRangers 2 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 7 minutes gone and riberys injured already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Ribery is Injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 This could actually help the French with Ribery Injured,Nasri is a great player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Abidal has been sent off penalty to italy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 GGGGGGGOOOOOOOAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!! 1-0 ITALY PIRLO PEN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled_bear 157 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Nasri the sub who come on for Ribery(injured) has been brought off for Boumsong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right_To_Censor 1,951 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 mon the france, get a draw. haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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