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People just choose what they want to see what it comes to Tav. Has there been games where he’s fucked up, 100%, but there’s been loads of games where he’s been the player who has dragged us back into it too. On the whole he’s been an outstanding player for us and has repaid his fee about 100 times over. The worst thing Gerrard ever did was make him captain, not because he’s not a good captain, but because it raised the expectations on him as a Rangers player.

So you think losing all but Lee McCulloch and Lee Wallace from the first team squad and replacing it with the likes of Emilson Cribari and Kevin Kyle, playing against the dross of Scottish football for 4 years and winning nothing took nothing away from the heart of what it means to be a successful, combatant, confident Rangers team with a back bone? You serious? The poster above actually makes my point completely. We've won the league, Scottish Cup and the League Cup once each since we came back up in 2016. How the fuck does that makes us winners? You don't build a winning mentality without winning things. We went on an amazing run to the EL final and still that team didn't believe in itself enough to beat the scum in the league that season. We put a great showing in the SC semi that season but again there was an underdog tone to that game. There was no expectation to win. I think this team does have heart but it's the heart of an underdog/chaser who can fight to get to the front of the pack then doesn't know what to do once it gets there. That's been lost.

Some pretty mental takes on here. He’s absolutely done it in big games for us. Just this season we wouldn’t have made it to the Europa league without him. Scored the goal that got us through against Servette. League cup final winner. Massive game. (After scoring twice against Hearts in the semi) Free kick against Killie that got us back into a game we never should have won. Goal and assist in the 2-1 win to beat hearts. League would have been over right there. Goal, assist and set up another in 3-0 win against st Mirren. Incredible assist for Sima in 1-0 win away against Hearts. And goal line clearance Gots contender that set up win against County Set up all 3 goals in the later 3-1 win against County Opens the scoring against Hibs On top of other goals in losing efforts like Psv and celtic and all the penalties he’s stuck away.  He’s never in a million years a captain and not a leader. But he was quality for a good chunk of the season. Nonsense to say otherwise. He’s done now though for this season. Ran into the ground.  At 33 next season maybe Clement looks to move him on. No used to us when he can’t run.

I don’t even get the logic behind all the weird shit none of it makes any sense at all

Have no issue with this at all. I want Rangers players to be brave, honest and not hide when times are tough. I respect his honesty and we need more of that attitude in this squad. Too many treating it like just another game. Bringing in players with the English Championship mentality that a draw is not a bad result shows a total lack of undertaking as to what is required as a Rangers player.