cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The EPL is watched worldwide. Even bottom of the table clashes. You try selling Ross County v St Mirren to folk in the Far East....the only difference is the money to buy decent players - there are no more sunderland/Swansea fans in the far east than there are St mirren/Ross county fans.The money the EPL get attracts players, advertisers, then viewers - chicken and egg. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 i am one of the 10% you are talking about and i hardly ever watch scottish football on sky except if it is a gers game i am sure the majority of scottish viewers buy sky for the english premiership or other leagues etcyes but you might if it was far better quality - I dont watch other Scottish games either - because its all mince. Investment makes it better quality, drawing more viewers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
standup 829 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Scottish clubs should get together and refuse to play them, because if they get beat they will say they were cheated.. They wont accept a defeat so what is the point of playing them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 the EPL is massively over valued. i think the SPL given the viewer numbers (not the product) is undervalued. Whats ridiculous about that?We are left with the scraps from the table because we have negotiated poorly, but which is substantially not helped by no old firm games.The EPL is not overvalued and the SPL is not undervalued, they are both paid what they are worth. I don't think you understand how SKY position Football to make money overall. Without the EPL Sky would lose the majority of their subscribers meaning they wouldn't be getting £16 for phone line rentals, broadband etc. Ask yourself how many Subscribers they would lose if the dropped Scottish Football and ask yourself how many that would lose if they lost English football. 99% of Scottish football fans watch English Football, there is little interest in Scottish Football Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 As Sir Arnold used to say to Sir Humphrey in Yes Minister "we can't have people wandering around telling the truth like that" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGM_72 3,614 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 yes but you might if it was far better quality - I dont watch other Scottish games either - because its all mince. Investment makes it better quality, drawing more viewers.You've highlighted a pretty good point and argued it well throughout the thread I'm in agreement, the product might not be that great right now but if it sees investment then it'll improve. Sometimes you need to speculate to accumulate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,654 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Has the guy got Twitter? Because if he has then it'll be on meltdown! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 8,086 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 "Celtic are like the brat of a child, over-indulged by parents, and scoffing too many sweets and not sharing any with the other kids because of some superiority complex which isn't backed up by what's actually going on"So good a line I had to quote from his article Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectre 1,663 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Scottish clubs should get together and refuse to play them, because if they get beat they will say they were cheated.. They wont accept a defeat so what is the point of playing them.Because it doesn't matter whether they accept the defeat or not, they still get defeated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,276 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The EPL is watched worldwide. Even bottom of the table clashes. You try selling Ross County v St Mirren to folk in the Far East....If you hype it up big style, you can even makes games like Sunderland vs QPR seem attractive. Or maybe not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,276 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The EPL is not overvalued and the SPL is not undervalued, they are both paid what they are worth. I don't think you understand how SKY position Football to make money overall. Without the EPL Sky would lose the majority of their subscribers meaning they wouldn't be getting £16 for phone line rentals, broadband etc. Ask yourself how many Subscribers they would lose if the dropped Scottish Football and ask yourself how many that would lose if they lost English football. 99% of Scottish football fans watch English Football, there is little interest in Scottish FootballEPL is massively overvalued. Hopefully there is a day of reckoning for them in the near future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 EPL is massively overvalued. Hopefully there is a day of reckoning for them in the near future.In what way is it overvalued? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMac 1,405 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The video of that mad Celtic daftie has been viewed almost 700,000 times on facebook. Thats probably double the tv audience for the actual game. And its cheaper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 What a Group of neddy connmen septic are.They are an absolute disgrace full of hoodlums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Thermo .Showing your age there mate Of course I haven't a clue what your on about . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The EPL is not overvalued and the SPL is not undervalued, they are both paid what they are worth. I don't think you understand how SKY position Football to make money overall. Without the EPL Sky would lose the majority of their subscribers meaning they wouldn't be getting £16 for phone line rentals, broadband etc. Ask yourself how many Subscribers they would lose if the dropped Scottish Football and ask yourself how many that would lose if they lost English football. 99% of Scottish football fans watch English Football, there is little interest in Scottish Footballsorry I totally disagree with your first two points. It's now at the stage where sky are actively paying people off and cutting staff to pay the money because there whole system is founded on it. It's not about comparing us with England, it's about getting a reasonable share because of the viewing percentage I mentioned earlier. We don't get it at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,276 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 In what way is it overvalued?Sky paid way over the odds when they didn't have to. Taking big risk that they can make it profitable. Share price drop reflects this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofCoop 17,254 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Hate Talksport, Love Adrian Durham! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnclosureBear 2,918 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Just wish it was against us, Jig done it in the Semi Final, only that could have been funnier. We'll be back soon.... Cunts Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDak 792 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 sorry I totally disagree with your first two points. It's now at the stage where sky are actively paying people off and cutting staff to pay the money because there whole system is founded on it.It's not about comparing us with England, it's about getting a reasonable share because of the viewing percentage I mentioned earlier.We don't get it at the moment.I agree with you and, just to stick my oar in to the argument, the reason the EPL is so popular is because SKY took it and ran with it.15-20 years ago the EPL wasn't in the same level as it is now. SKY realised that if they pumped billions into the League, hyped it up then maintained the rights to show the games then they'd be on to a winner.You're right, it is a chicken and egg scenario and I think the money arrived before the product.If SKY were to even put £200M into Scottish football over 5 years - a small fraction of the EPL money, over a longer period - it would make a massive difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky True Legend 2,682 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 The problem is that Sky have their golden goose; they do not need Scottish football. However, as Scotland voted "No", why do we not just have one Association for all of the UK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 The problem is that Sky have their golden goose; they do not need Scottish football. However, as Scotland voted "No", why do we not just have one Association for all of the UK?sky are now paying through the nose. It's not so golden any more. It's more a lead noose, than a golden goose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJig 76 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Adrian Durham loves getting ripped into them. His radio broadcast about the beasts writing to the SFA was brilliant.Unfortunately don't listen much to matches on Talksport anymore due to that cunt Collymore!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 sorry I totally disagree with your first two points. It's now at the stage where sky are actively paying people off and cutting staff to pay the money because there whole system is founded on it.It's not about comparing us with England, it's about getting a reasonable share because of the viewing percentage I mentioned earlier.We don't get it at the moment.The viewing percentage generated in Scotland is primarily driven to watch the EPL, Providing Scottish football on Sky hardly increases the subscribers which is why it is worth buttons. Scottish chip off the shoulder Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone 7,678 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 sky are now paying through the nose. It's not so golden any more. It's more a lead noose, than a golden goose.Sky made a profit of £527 million in 6 months, where did you get this lead noose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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