BridgeIsBlue 66,592 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Sums everything up perfectly,absolute fucking joke of a situation we've put ourselves in. Rangers stars only at Ibrox for big money, says Kevin KyleMost of Rangers' under-performing players are only at Ibrox for big-money salaries, according to former Light Blues striker Kevin Kyle.The 33-year-old says some of his team-mates were earning over £400,000 per year while he was with the club in the bottom tier of the Scottish league."The majority of players who are there at Rangers are there for one reason and one reason only," said Kyle."And that's the money that was on offer to them."Rangers' playing budget has been reduced in the two seasons since they played in the Scottish Third Division following financial problems.But, although they are now second of the Championship, money problems persist and manager Ally McCoist has handed in his notice amid criticism of performances and results.And Kyle thinks the de-motivating effect of high salaries he experienced persists at the Glasgow club."I look back and I regret going to Rangers as maybe it was the downfall of my career," he told BBC Radio Scotland's Sportsound programme."I spent six months with Rangers and, within a year of moving to Ayr, I decided to chuck it in as I just lost all interest in it."I'm sure there a few guys there who are fed up."Kyle, who no longer plays professionally, believes that the quality of opponents outside the top flight would have dragged Rangers players down a level."My memory of Rangers is playing in front of 50,000 fans against the big teams, but this time around it is playing for Glasgow Rangers at Stirling Albion in front of a few hundred people," he said."That's not the dream that everybody thought it was and you lose that desire."For me, it was a great thing playing for Rangers, but what we were playing against every week never got me going. It didn't have that same vibe."Kyle recalled the high spending at Ibrox during that season in Scotland's fourth tier."It's not the players' fault, because somebody stupid somewhere along the line offered them that money," he said."I go back to my situation where I went in there having been injured for 18 months and the wife said to me: 'what do you expect to get out of Rangers if they offer you a deal?'"I said about £500-£600 per week, I would be quite happy with that as I had been out of the game and just wanted back in."I sat down with the manager and he asked what I was looking for and I just said a crazy figure and I almost got what I wanted."Looking back now, maybe he would want to do things differently. Over the course of a year, it was something about £100,000 with various bonuses."Kyle said there were other players several times more."I know some of the figures some of the guys were getting and it was just stupid - it was laughable at times," he added."A few of the guys I used to play with, you're talking about £300,000 to £400,000 per year playing in the Third Division of Scottish football with money rising depending on appearances and bonuses."http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/30524862 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumhoilann 6,712 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Top of the pile must be Jig?Aye, well 'managed' McCoist........not!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
port_bear 86 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 "I sat down with the manager and he asked what I was looking for and I just said a crazy figure and I almost got what I wanted."Looking back now, maybe he would want to do things differently. Over the course of a year, it was something about £100,000 with various bonuses."For me this is the most damning statement against McCoist !!For too long now we have had to listent to guys like Derek Johnstone and the likes defending Ally to the hilt, syaing things like "Ally has no controll over the finances or what the players are offered". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 "I sat down with the manager and he asked what I was looking for and I just said a crazy figure and I almost got what I wanted."Looking back now, maybe he would want to do things differently. Over the course of a year, it was something about £100,000 with various bonuses."For me this is the most damning statement against McCoist !!For too long now we have had to listent to guys like Derek Johnstone and the likes defending Ally to the hilt, syaing things like "Ally has no controll over the finances or what the players are offered".and a guy on £750K a year is not going to blink an eye at a player wanting nearly £100K.We appear to have paid players almost exactly what they wanted rather than have any kind of wage structure in place - thats the damning thing. Mccoist is part of a hugely flawed system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,773 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Next he'll be telling us that water is wet.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Been told the same story about other players and the their wage offer but didn't believe it, it seems they are true after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 aye the other thread with the same story was pish Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The downfall of Kevin Kyle's career is signing for Rangers, is that the ultimate insult?I thought Ally didn't pick the wages either?Anyway, he's a bit of a hypocrite, he admits to not being motivated himself so the only difference between him and the other players are that they were on more money.Fat ride. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
port_bear 86 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 thats the damning thing. Mccoist is part of a hugely flawed system.I have been arguing with fellow bears and neutral outsiders about this for years now, most of them defending McCoist from the financial side of things ... "It's not Ally who makes the decision on wages, he simply tells the board which players he would like to sign and they will handle the rest". I wasnt buying any of it, from reading various books from current and ex managers, all speaking openly of the wage demands of certain players.To simply say McCoist had little to no influence in these matters is utterly laughable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornabear 6,200 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Oh but we can't blame Ally, it's everyone else who has to take the blame.750k reasons for taking the blame and has the motivational skills of a corpse.Monies which should have been saved until this and next seasonAbsolute arse of a man, who I have no more respect for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,592 Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 aye the other thread with the same story was pishShit I never clocked it,could an admin delete the thread or merge this with Oleg's ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegKuznetsov 10,816 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It's quite bad timing for McCoist with these revelations that he was at least partly responsible for our exorbitant wage bill coming out now.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_1 1,136 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I have been arguing with fellow bears and neutral outsiders about this for years now, most of them defending McCoist from the financial side of things ... "It's not Ally who makes the decision on wages, he simply tells the board which players he would like to sign and they will handle the rest". I wasnt buying any of it, from reading various books from current and ex managers, all speaking openly of the wage demands of certain players.To simply say McCoist had little to no influence in these matters is utterly laughable.Even if he didn't have any first hand influence on wages per say, picking out players like Law, Daly, Templeton, Boyd etc he'll know fine well they are going to command some sort of enhancing financial package that's going to attract them to leave the top divison to play for Rangers in the first, second or third divison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,662 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It's quite bad timing for McCoist with these revelations that he was at least partly responsible for our exorbitant wage bill coming out now..Why was he deciding the wage?What expierence did he have to actually be doing that?It's no wonder our wage bill is a coimplete embarrassment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 It's quite bad timing for McCoist with these revelations that he was at least partly responsible for our exorbitant wage bill coming out now..is it really that much of a revelation? we all knew or suspected that something was rotten. That it is all coming to light and that McCoist had a hand in it all is no surprise at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehost 11,061 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 maybe we should look at ally and big lee and when they took no money from the clubbe an interesting tale there too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippinEck 3,701 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Could have went and got someone like Rory Mcallister who would have busted a gut to play for us in the 3rd div and you could bet that whilst you maybe wouldn't always get a top quality performance you'd get 110% from a player grateful to be at the club. Couple that with guys like little who had been at the club in the top division and we would have been on right track. We fucked it signing duds like Sandaza and Kyle and we appear to have not learnt the lesson throwing money at guys like Miller. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBear. 8,499 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The downfall of his career was signing for Rangers, after being out the game for 18 months? Aye alright kev. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy bob swollenbaws 1,861 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Why was he deciding the wage?What expierence did he have to actually be doing that?It's no wonder our wage bill is a coimplete embarrassment. cause he is the team manager. What else is he going to do?? Bear in mind he admitted he was in the dressing room once a fortnight on averge, so he was not motivating the team, he wasnt controlling his playing budget. What the hell WAS he doing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Cammy Bell at at BBQ before he went into sign said he would be happy with 2k. For Ally to say to him how does 6k sound.What do,you expect him to say? No Ally I was only looking for 2k. The mismanagement is unacceptable and thank god Ashley has got guys on the board, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 maybe we should look at ally and big lee and when they took no money from the clubbe an interesting tale there tooWhen was that? All wages were back dated Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 the downfall of our club is having to sign pish like this character Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,306 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 he sat with the MANAGER and asked for a crazy sum and almost got it haha. Super Ally eh. Picking players wages as well. Mustve cost the club in excess ae 20million. Twit Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deco19761 1,006 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 As I have said pre I Ousby boy behind me at ibrox knows clerk's agent. They went in to look for around a grand a week. A contract was put in front of him for 45 per week and he signed it. As for black et Al. McCoist knew what he was getting at hearts and still paid him more. He on 9 a week now??? That sums it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalbeagle 3,734 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Really does seem that Ally has actually been underpaid, given that he has apparently been manager, CEO, FD and Comms for the best part of three years now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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