D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 To The Right Honourable Danny Alexander MP, Chief secretary to the Treasury,Dear Mr Alexander,SUBJECT : CONFIDENTIAL LEAKS RANGERS TAX CASEI write to you as a shareholder in Rangers FC (oldco) and enclose an item of correspondence I sent several months ago to David Gauke.Mr Gauke, rather than answer me direct, referred my letter to HMRC Ministerial Correspondence Unit. Their initial correspondence to me was a long winded letter which failed to even comment on the question I had asked. Their second letter following a response from me to their initial letter contained the phrase that "HMRC don't comment on speculation about breaches of confidentiality".I would reiterate to you that I am not asking them to comment on such speculation, I'm asking if they reported the leaks of confidential information to the Police, as such conduct by it's nature is a serious criminal offence, and like any such offence, would warrant a Police enquiry.Since the date of my letter to Mr Gauke there have been two considerable developments with regard to this case. Firstly, as a consequence of HMRC continued prevarication with regard to this matter I sought legal advice. As a consequence of this I contacted Strathclyde Police in order to raise a criminal complaint in respect of the leaks of confidential information regarding a company in which I was a shareholder. I was contacted personally by Ruaraidh Nicolson, Assistant Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police who informed this matter was currently the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation.The second significant development was the SPL enquiry into Rangers, in particular the summary by Lord Nimmo Smith in his subsequent report into the findings.[98] Meanwhile, BBC Scotland came, by unknown means, into possession of what they described as “dozens of secret emails, letters and documents”, which we understand were the productions before the Tax Tribunal. These formed the basis of a programme entitled “Rangers – The Men Who Sold the Jerseys”, which was broadcast on 23 May 2012. BBC Scotland also published copious material on its website. The published material included a table containing the names of Rangers players, coaches and staff who were beneficiaries of the MGMRT, and how much they received through that trust. It also listed the names of people where the BBC had seen evidence that they received side-letters. This event appears to have been the trigger for more activity in response to the SPL’s request.Lord Nimmo Smith refers to documents which were "productions" and thus evidence in the Rangers Tax Case. He quite rightly questions how evidence can be removed and find itself in the possession of the media and other parties. There was only one organisation seizing evidence in the Rangers Tax Case – HMRC.Mr Alexander, allow me to make something crystal clear. I am not asking this question of HMRC in order to play "amateur detective" nor to mischief make, I have every right as a shareholder whose company's paperwork has been seized, to not only expect HMRC to take adequate care of confidential documents they have seized, but also where there is a breach of that confidentiality then I expect them to take all reasonable steps to investigate that breach in order that the perpetrator be identified and charged and as a consequence the leaks are stopped.The legal premise here is quite clear clear - if HMRC have failed to report this matter to the Police then quite simply they have failed to take all reasonable steps expected of them, and thus there is subsequent liability with regard to such a failing.In view of the developments I now have a number of questions, I would appreciate an answer to, preferably from yourself. Did HMRC report the leaks in the Rangers Tax Case to the Police ? Is there a protocol/procedural guidelines within HMRC as to the breach of a clients confidential information. If so have these been adhered to ? If such procedures have not been adhered to have you, personally, investigated these apparent failings ? You will have noticed, Mr Alexander, an element of tenacity in my letter writing. Quite simply neither myself nor my fellow shareholders will settle for the unsatisfactory responses to date from HMRC. In all honesty I feel the impoverished nature of their responses makes a mockery of claims of “transparency” in all their dealings.It is also regrettable that I find myself having to write to you in order to illicit a response to a reasonable question I have asked of others. There is a growing feeling that HMRC's continued refusal to comment on this matter, thus preventing shareholders from seeking legal redress, is tantamount to an attempt to perverse the course of justice. I will await the findings of the Police investigation prior to seeking further counsel regarding this.I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.Yours sincerely Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Good man D'Art i emailed Gauke a couple of months ago, no reply seem to be getting nowhere again. Glad you as a shareholder are keeping up the fight, you may get more luck as you have more status as a shareholder than a normal supporter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and True 311 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Good work DartI also had some communication with Gauke where he completely avoided the questions asked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral 5,375 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Hope that you get answers Dart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymcg1986 259 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Good piece, keep up the good fight Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,631 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 To The Right Honourable Danny Alexander MP, Chief secretary to the Treasury,Dear Mr Alexander,SUBJECT : CONFIDENTIAL LEAKS RANGERS TAX CASEI write to you as a shareholder in Rangers FC (oldco) and enclose an item of correspondence I sent several months ago to David Gauke.Mr Gauke, rather than answer me direct, referred my letter to HMRC Ministerial Correspondence Unit. Their initial correspondence to me was a long winded letter which failed to even comment on the question I had asked. Their second letter following a response from me to their initial letter contained the phrase that "HMRC don't comment on speculation about breaches of confidentiality".I would reiterate to you that I am not asking them to comment on such speculation, I'm asking if they reported the leaks of confidential information to the Police, as such conduct by it's nature is a serious criminal offence, and like any such offence, would warrant a Police enquiry.Since the date of my letter to Mr Gauke there have been two considerable developments with regard to this case. Firstly, as a consequence of HMRC continued prevarication with regard to this matter I sought legal advice. As a consequence of this I contacted Strathclyde Police in order to raise a criminal complaint in respect of the leaks of confidential information regarding a company in which I was a shareholder. I was contacted personally by Ruaraidh Nicolson, Assistant Chief Constable of Strathclyde Police who informed this matter was currently the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation.The second significant development was the SPL enquiry into Rangers, in particular the summary by Lord Nimmo Smith in his subsequent report into the findings.[98] Meanwhile, BBC Scotland came, by unknown means, into possession of what they described as “dozens of secret emails, letters and documents”, which we understand were the productions before the Tax Tribunal. These formed the basis of a programme entitled “Rangers – The Men Who Sold the Jerseys”, which was broadcast on 23 May 2012. BBC Scotland also published copious material on its website. The published material included a table containing the names of Rangers players, coaches and staff who were beneficiaries of the MGMRT, and how much they received through that trust. It also listed the names of people where the BBC had seen evidence that they received side-letters. This event appears to have been the trigger for more activity in response to the SPL’s request.Lord Nimmo Smith refers to documents which were "productions" and thus evidence in the Rangers Tax Case. He quite rightly questions how evidence can be removed and find itself in the possession of the media and other parties. There was only one organisation seizing evidence in the Rangers Tax Case – HMRC.Mr Alexander, allow me to make something crystal clear. I am not asking this question of HMRC in order to play "amateur detective" nor to mischief make, I have every right as a shareholder whose company's paperwork has been seized, to not only expect HMRC to take adequate care of confidential documents they have seized, but also where there is a breach of that confidentiality then I expect them to take all reasonable steps to investigate that breach in order that the perpetrator be identified and charged and as a consequence the leaks are stopped.The legal premise here is quite clear clear - if HMRC have failed to report this matter to the Police then quite simply they have failed to take all reasonable steps expected of them, and thus there is subsequent liability with regard to such a failing.In view of the developments I now have a number of questions, I would appreciate an answer to, preferably from yourself. Did HMRC report the leaks in the Rangers Tax Case to the Police ? Is there a protocol/procedural guidelines within HMRC as to the breach of a clients confidential information. If so have these been adhered to ? If such procedures have not been adhered to have you, personally, investigated these apparent failings ? You will have noticed, Mr Alexander, an element of tenacity in my letter writing. Quite simply neither myself nor my fellow shareholders will settle for the unsatisfactory responses to date from HMRC. In all honesty I feel the impoverished nature of their responses makes a mockery of claims of “transparency” in all their dealings.It is also regrettable that I find myself having to write to you in order to illicit a response to a reasonable question I have asked of others. There is a growing feeling that HMRC's continued refusal to comment on this matter, thus preventing shareholders from seeking legal redress, is tantamount to an attempt to perverse the course of justice. I will await the findings of the Police investigation prior to seeking further counsel regarding this.I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.Yours sincerelyGood work can't see any great reply tho as this is under investigation. The line U will get is, we don't wanna say something that might harm the findings Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
don logan 8,062 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Great letter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIE8CH 296 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 great stuff D,art keep taking the fight to them as they want to dismiss this case without anybody being done. once again keep at them, i,m sure all bears are with you on your quest for the truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonok 1,245 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Great work D'Art, I'm sure your tenacity will pay off eventually. The police may find and charge the culprit butthe fact remains HMRC themselves should have brought the police in sooner and by not doing so they allowed Rangers oldco to be undermined by the leaks thus affecting shareholders, sue the bastards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERITAS VOS LIBREBETS 3,320 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Great work D'Art please keep it up. Thankyou. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,795 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Brilliant work d'art Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhiteandblue 3,330 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Excellent letter. Don't ever give this up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Great work D'Art, I'm sure your tenacity will pay off eventually. The police may find and charge the culprit butthe fact remains HMRC themselves should have brought the police in sooner and by not doing so they allowedRangers oldco to be undermined by the leaks thus affecting shareholders, sue the bastards.From the information Ive received Jonok the Police enquiry was only instigated after SDM made his complaint following the tax tribunal. If that is indeed the case there is considerable neglect on a corporate scale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Azure 1,414 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Gauke has not even had the courtesy of replying to my email. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephants stoned 2,994 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Gauke has not even had the courtesy of replying to my email.Mine neither hes a git, i saw him on the news recently, looks like a git n all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ger77 742 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Top notch D'Art Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
better than all the rest 153 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 A very well put letter, and it deserves a formative response from them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,088 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Excellent letter Dart!! Keep on fighting for the TRUTH/JUSTICE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose1975 1,287 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Seen lots of letters that have been sent by fellow fans but to date this is the best I've seen, well done D'art, very much appreciated by us all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,236 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 From the information Ive received Jonok the Police enquiry was only instigated after SDM made his complaint following the tax tribunal. If that is indeed the case there is considerable neglect on a corporate scale.great letter mate.I asked HMRC if they are subject to FOI Requests and they eventually replied stating that they are, HOWEVER, they advised that they cannot provide certain tax information due to rules / regulations / laws !!!I then asked for a simple yes or no for the following:Did HMRC conduct an internal investigation regarding alleged leaks?Did any investigation determine that leaks of information came from within HMRC?HMRC stated that due to rules / regulations / laws they could not advise !!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 great letter mate.I asked HMRC if they are subject to FOI Requests and they eventually replied stating that they are, HOWEVER, they advised that they cannot provide certain tax information due to rules / regulations / laws !!!I then asked for a simple yes or no for the following:Did HMRC conduct an internal investigation regarding alleged leaks?Did any investigation determine that leaks of information came from within HMRC?HMRC stated that due to rules / regulations / laws they could not advise !!!!!Thats what I refer to in the letter BA when I say impoverished responses. Absolutely and categorically unacceptable. Its starting to stink of a cover up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,236 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Thats what I refer to in the letter BA when I say impoverished responses. Absolutely and categorically unacceptable. Its starting to stink of a cover up. keep up the good work D'Art.You might have greater success than me as I was a not a shareholder in the oldco but I tried to find out some answers from HMRC regarding their conduct / pursuit of the PLC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucyBlue 2,278 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 You know, sometimes you just have to step back and applaud.That's an excellent article.I'm glad have you here D'Art, erudite and tenacious.You are a gem.Keep it up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai_Johansen 978 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Excellent post, doubt if any investigative journalist within the Scottish media could have done any better Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary2006 123 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Thats what I refer to in the letter BA when I say impoverished responses. Absolutely and categorically unacceptable. Its starting to stink of a cover up.d has the rfff not got involved in this,you are doing great work,would you have more chance of succeeding if you had more old co shareholders involved,could the old co shareholders get together and take hmrc to court? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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