Thaum1el

The storyline of this game is fantastic. It would make for a great TV show... as opposed, well, you know, the TV show.

BBC game report also notes it looked like more than the offical figure. They're implying next to saying outright that we've got something fishy going on. I'm becoming increasingly tired of this constant crap from BBC. Fuck them all.

Absolutely. From their perspective I can understand them. It'd be nice to have a list of who's actually available to play, though.

It's getting difficult to get any official information on exactly who is in the Rangers squad at the moment. The official website is completely out of date and still have a number of quitters, traitors and exits on the list. The Wikipedia page also seems out-of-date. So where can one find the list of the current players, one that isn't flawed?

Larsson never was their manager. It was the team he played most for in Sweden, but he manages a team with a similar name (Trelleborg) in the second tier, not very impressively I might add. When he played in this Helsinborg team, the other clubs used "Henkeborg" after his nickname as a taunt towards the team. That's about how much energy I can put on a guy that played for the scum.

Baaaaaaah, baaaaaaah. Jump off the cliffs, man, and swim. Maybe you make it to Iceland before you drown.

In Sweden there has been controversy about smaller teams increasing away ticket prices when the big teams visits. Those away games are important cash-cows for the smaller clubs, obviously, as they will not often sell out the away section (and not too often even the home sections). The larger club's fans have often boycotted away games with increased away ticket prices, and that has led to the prices getting lower over time. Worth thinking about. One dimension on our situation is that while the SPL clubs will suffer, the Div 3 clubs will have the time of their lives: they will have a lot of money coming in when we visit them. And they will play in front of a Real Club with culture and number of spectators that they are not used to play in front of. They should be greatful for our arrival, even if it's just for one season - it'll be the best season they've had!

Is there a list of the clubs that voted for us and against us? Just so that we never forget. They will all know we won't forget.

Like Golda Meir said: "Peace will come when [...] will love their children more than they hate us." Who are those Rat Rovers, btw? I think I saw them at a gravel field once, but the they were outplayed by a team of first year secondary schoolgirls, who were two players short. I heard they cried.

Right. I should probably be. I have a good grasp that we're kicked out of the SPL by now. It's terrible. But to be honest, I was certain that this would happen as soon as I heard there would be a vote - all the jealous small clubs now can fight for a second place they never had a shot at before, and the non-existingEuropean spots that will be diminishing for every year. One could've hoped that some of the clubs would have looked to reason, but history isn't on the side of those that think that the official bodies of Scottish football is looking to reason. But what I can't get my head around is this power struggle within the fan base. Rangers, of course, has one of the hugest and fiercest and most loyal (if not THE most loyal) fanbases in all of world sports. And in such a large group there will be diversions. But I can't figure out what the main groups in this fan conflict are, what the fights are all about and what the arguments for the respective sides are. To me it would be natural to think that various factors - old leadership, Whyte leadership, the incompetence and corruption of the SFA/SPL and the jealousy of (most of) the other clubs along with mhedia sensationalism to name a few - has put us in the gutter. Now it's time for everyone to get gathered and see our club out of the gutter and back on the throne where Rangers will always belong. However it would seem that it's not this easy. There are those that say this, and others who say that. And me, as a foreign fan that is geographically not in the thick of things, I'm not going to tell another Rangers supporter how to do his supporting - because I'm simply not well informed enough. And that, of course, is annoying to me: not that I can't tell other supporters what to do, I don't wanna do that, but the feeling that I'm not well informed enough. So if someone could sum up what the main divisions among the fans seems to be, it would really help me out a lot. Maybe I wouldn't feel like this is something that's so much out of my hands, and I can't really grasp it all, cause it should be my damn duty as a supporter to know exactly what the score is at every turn.

I think he's trying to say that Weiss has been in some kind of Twitter storm with the media in Slovakia after calling members of the press some very unsavory things. They now fight back, like the media do, by going after his father who, according to the poster, was also famous for getting in the media's faces.

Could someone please kindly give a summary of what exactly is the situation right now, this included, for us bears who are either mentally or linguistically (foreign) challenged and can't really make all the ends of this rollercoaster? The answer is on the forum, but there's a lot to wrap one's head around.

Exactly.

I don't have anything in the way of newspaper articles about fans being hurt by flairs. However, I have seen it happen with my own eyes. Those flairs, however, haven't been serious, "only" first degree burns to the face. Which is a big deal for that person, I can I assure you. I seem to recall something about a fan down in Europe getting seriously hurt or killed not long ago when a flair got waved in his face, but that might have been a misunderstanding. But I try to access the question with logic: sure, the burning flair may add a cozy and cool atmosphere. But a flair commonly used by football fans can have a temperature of over a thousand degrees celsius (1800 F) and can't be put out with water - it's made to work at sea and provides its own oxygene. At our games, when flairs go of, we put them in buckets of sand and let them go out when they go out, our personell generally do not have the equipment to put them out. It stands to reason that it isn't a good thing waving such an object around in a confined area crowded with people wearing jackets made of flammable synthetic materials. They also pour out smoke which phosphorus pentoxide and magnesium oxide which are very unhealthy to inhale, they do damage to the airways and lungs that cigarettes doesn't come near, and can, for example, lead to metal fume fever and asthma. In short, I think flairs can look very cool. I've been in the middle of them several times at work. But the cons to me weighs out the pros.